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Wow, ICS is pretty perfect on my Touchpad. Works better overall than CM7 did, and feels much more polished... as long as you don't try to watch a Youtube/Netflix video. Still, it was worth it to upgrade. I can use Splashtop for Netflix until they update it (Dalingrin made it sound like it'd be sometime near this weekend)
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Odette posted:I just don't want to install a community ROM that hasn't really been tested & has plenty of bugs. For example, on a GNex or Nexus, it's basically as good as stock ICS with some CM features starting to creep in. HTC devices have a lot more non-working features due to the lack of updated proprietary drivers. So, the result is that "stable" CM9 is a long ways off due to the desire of getting most CM7-supported devices on board. But it's perfectly usable right now on devices that are already well supported.
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Bob A Feet posted:Yup, just wipe the cache and dlavik and flash it! It will flash it's own radio and kernel for you. Let me know how it turns out for you-- mine is very responsive. I have one thing that doesn't work and that is my camera flash-- not a deal breaker but still annoying. I don't know how that is not working considering this is just the straight OTA update. Flashed it and it's working great. Battery's a bit better but not hugely so, and the recent apps list appears a lot faster now. Flash works fine on my device so maybe it's hardware?
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gently caress yeah, there's a CM9 ROM out for the Shift! I never expected one that fast. Against my better judgement, I'm gonna back up and flash this.
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Feb 16, 2012 03:43
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ExcessBLarg! posted:It really depends on the device. CM9 is basically all over the map. I've only flashed once to my SGS2, and that was CM7. I don't know what the status is like with CM9 ROMs though. 
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I know there's a few other Atrix 4G users out there. Some guy named Turl1 apparently joined forces with Jokersax, sort of, and is releasing his own cm9 kangs. I just did a fresh flash of his v5, and and it's pretty good. Netflix doesn't display properly for whatever reason, and Waze just sits on the loading screen interminably before crashing. Also the headphone jack still doesn't seem to work (is that just my phone? I don't know anymore) but audio over hdmi works which is kind of rad. Greatest thing is having working cameras again, though. Sounds like video recording doesn't work yet but I missed being able to take pictures. Those were a lot of negatives but it's really quite smooth and excellent. It was really cool hearing that Motorola plans on an official OTA ICS upgrade of Q3 this year but in the meantime this really is nice. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22510728&postcount=2708
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I really don't understand the idea behind "kanged" roms. First off the name is just goofy. This isn't star trek, roms aren't klingons so whats the deal. Second, from what I understand, to "kang" is to jack code off the cyanogen github and gently caress around with it for better or worse. My thought process is why don't these idiots put their heads together and work towards a common goal of having a solid, unified code tree with a bunch of working stuff. Right now there are 4+ different ics roms for the g2. Two have a working camera. The others which do not are an unofficial cyanogen build and another is miui. Why the gently caress are these people refusing to talk to each other? It drives me up the wall that so many end users have to suffer because every loving dev is seemingly incapable of not acting like a 10 year old fighting over who gets what portion of the sandbox.
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Feb 16, 2012 06:27
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Slopehead posted:Why the gently caress are these people refusing to talk to each other?
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Feb 16, 2012 06:30
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Because I am a unique snowflake and I will make my own ROM. 
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Kanged builds are nothing more than ROM's built off public CM code and whatever bits they literally steal from camping CM IRC rooms. Some of it's kosher, some of it isn't. Why don't they work together? Two reasons. 1) Pride / E-penis / Attention 2) They honestly have no loving idea what they are actually doing. At some point they read a wiki on how to compile a flash-able ROM from source and for the most part Android is pretty much LEGO so with enough brute force you can build something that boots. 8 idiots in a room aren't going to be able to build a ROM worth using though because they'll just come up with the same ROM (since they are building from the same source and don't know anything past that) and "development" would break down because of internet drama & fighting. All useful development is done behind closed doors on IRC.
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I don't think its possible for me to properly express how tired I've become of the stupid insular circlejerk/infighting in the android community. The first drat rom I've seen worth flashing since cm7. 1 was released, the actual dev has refused flat out to talk to other devs or users. He had his buddy post the drat thing up because of how freaking dumb everyone acts.  x ten billionEdit: For what it's worth, the rom in question is "android revolution 7" available on that place we all love to hate. It's genuinely really drat good for sense 3.5, everything seems to work (gps, fm radio, data, wifi, camcorder, camera, hardware acceleration), and the buddy in question has actually formatted the original post to include quality working flashable extras based on feedback in the thread. Only thing of note is adfree doesn't seem super consistent & it's a bit jittery till you bump your clock up to 1.2ghzish. If anyone is on a G2 I'd suggest checking it out. VVV sent from xdapremiumsupercharged tapatalk app!!! MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 06:40
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I would also like to add that I hate the fact I know and use the word "kang". It is the stupidest poo poo ever.
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Feb 16, 2012 06:43
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I still say that rom title length and quality are closely related. Longer the title , crappier the rom. Same formula goes for stupid names. JayKay fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 06:52
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It's a good thing Android OEM's and carriers use the same mentality. 
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Feb 16, 2012 06:58
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JayKay posted:Same formula goes for stupid names. AOKP has a pretty stupid name (Android Open Kang Project) but it actually has legitimate development and stuff going on and is being ported to a lot of devices, having new features added, etc.
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But if kanging is just using cyanogen github code then why are they calling it their own open source... Oh god its better if I just don't think about it to hard. If I do I fear my mind may explode.  Edit: It seems that there is an actual ics project called "kang" in addition to the action of "kanging" which more than one rom, gingerbread or otherwise, is labeled as under g2 and mt4g development. Now that I've figured this out, things are a bit clearer but I still think its a loving dumb name. MC Hawking fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 07:17
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JerleMinara posted:AOKP has a pretty stupid name (Android Open Kang Project) but it actually has legitimate development and stuff going on and is being ported to a lot of devices, having new features added, etc. Still haven't tried it because stock Ice Cream Sandwich is too good to deal with anything being broken but I might give it a whirl at some point.
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LastInLine posted:I was going to mention this too. It's got all the hallmarks of a terrible ROM and yet somehow defies convention. Honestly it's such a subtle improvement on ICS I really recommend it to everyone. Toggles in the notification bar, toss on a kernel like franco's or faux for good battery life and just bask in it :3 It's basically a better launcher with a lot of configuration options in the settings and I think it's totally worth using for anyone on a supported device.
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Slopehead posted:Why the gently caress are these people refusing to talk to each other? Looks like it's time to bust out this classic again.
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Edit: Nevermind. I get the joke that you're making, even if I don't think it's relevant to my initial question. Snarky comments are not called for on my end.
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Cardiovorax posted:Nandroid is a full backup image so it restores everything completely, including kernel. I ran into some quirkiness on my Droid 2 Global that makes this only partially true. However, it may be a symptom of the locked bootloader more than anything. I was initially running the newest Gingerbread release for it. (System version .608) and decided to do the hack for it that lets it get on AT&T/TMobile. To perform the hack, I had to flash the phone back to a FroYo system & radio to apply the hack. I made a Nandroid of the Gingerbread system I had set up, thinking that I could just restore it after hacking the radio and everything would be peachy. This was unfortunately not the case. CWM Recovery, likely as a precaution against bricking, doesn't include the kernel when making backups on the Droid 2 Global (likely the same for other locked Moto devices). When I restored my GB Nandroid after doing everything I needed to do in FroYo, I noticed that the FroYo boot logo was still present. I had to flash in a Gingerbread kernel for my phone in order for everything to settle correctly. I'm now running the new .608 with the hacked radio after learning that the kernel sat separate from my Nandroid.
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AOKP is super stable on my GN, not to mention awesome. At the very least try it out. It also works well with Francos kernel.
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JerleMinara posted:AOKP has a pretty stupid name (Android Open Kang Project) but it actually has legitimate development and stuff going on and is being ported to a lot of devices, having new features added, etc. There are exceptions to the naming rule and AOKP is one of them. At least they have the decency to abreviate. Saliciouscrumb posted:AOKP is super stable on my GN, not to mention awesome. At the very least try it out. It also works well with Francos kernel. I keep flipping between Rootzboat and AOKP.
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What an odd and long night I've had... What started out as a quest to remove Swype from my stock Samsung Galaxy S2 (IGT9100) spanned the entire spectrum and went from disaster and despair to triumph. I understood that I had to root the phone in order to remove something that is part of the original firmware so I googled and found something I thought was suitable. It turns out the .tar file was for a different version of android so when Odin was done my phone wouldn't boot. Hooray, I thought, then I can flash it with Cyanogen since I've always wanted to try a different ROM. But that doesn't work since you need to have a functioning phone and root access. I then said gently caress it, I'll go back to stock. I found a 2.3 ROM that seemed correct on a page that looked really nicely laid out, with simple to understand steps. I select the CSC, Modem and PDA files in Odin and mash Start. Halfway through the fucker turns red and it fails... Fuckety gently caress gently caress. The phone won't boot, refuses to go into download mode, nothing works. So I rip out the battery, start praying to all the known and unknown deities. Well, the phone is now totally hosed. The download count is now 2 so I can't return it, but luckily I have download mode. It seems that I've managed, through some hosed up idiotic way, to attempt to flash my Phone with Samsung Galaxy S(1) firmware. No wonder. Pro-tip: Be sure to read, double and triple check before mashing start in Odin. It would have saved me 5hrs since of course Multiupload was down so no XDA file links worked yesterday. Long story short(er); I'm now sitting here with ICS 4.03 on my phone with root access. I nearly cried out in joy when Titanium finally allowed me to uninstall Swype at 3am... You can't learn anything unless you screw up. 
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Bhm posted:What an odd and long night I've had... A lot of people somehow manage to flash their US SGS2 with the international firmware. That wont boot either. Samsung 
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Jerk McJerkface posted:A lot of people somehow manage to flash their US SGS2 with the international firmware. That wont boot either. Samsung Haha, yeah I noticed that. For me,though it went so far that I picked an ICS Rom at random that matched the hardware and kept my fingers crossed. There weren't ANY available vendors for the phone (Telenor Sweden) anywhere and all other Nordic versions were hosted on multiupload.com. Why does this have to be so horribly convoluted? 
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Maker Of Shoes posted:I would also like to add that I hate the fact I know and use the word "kang". It is the stupidest poo poo ever.
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Penguissimo posted:Looks like it's time to bust out this classic again. Somehow it got uglier.
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Penguissimo posted:Looks like it's time to bust out this classic again. That logo on the top looks 3D on my GN. Like pop-off-the-screen 3DS style 3D. 
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Bhm posted:Haha, yeah I noticed that. For me,though it went so far that I picked an ICS Rom at random that matched the hardware and kept my fingers crossed. It gets simpler and makes more sense once you get familiar with the samsung conventions and make sure you're not downloading items for the wrong device. XDA however often does a terrible job of keeping information up to date, easy to understand and accurate. Whilst Samsung and US telecommunications companies do their best to make their names as confusing as possible (Hint: Stick to the ID code. ie I9000 for SGS1 and I9100 for SGS2) Shanakin fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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So the unofficial cm9 rom is working well with my shift, for the most part. The main exceptions are the keyboard lights don't work and any selection dialogue ends up looking like this: Only with artifacts covering the whole screen (they go away when you take a screenshot, of course ). Also, for some reason, all my apps were still installed when I first booted, even though I made sure to wipe data, cache and system. Is this some weird CM/TiBackup integration or something? If not I'll probably flatten and reinstall and see if it fixes the graphics.
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Slopehead posted:I really don't understand the idea behind "kanged" roms. First off the name is just goofy. Slopehead posted:My thought process is why don't these idiots put their heads together and work towards a common goal of having a solid, unified code tree with a bunch of working stuff. CyanogenMod is in, most respects, a pretty respectable project. The folks who lead it are concerned with code and release quality, and generally "doing things right." Individual device maintainers are hit or miss, but they're generally team players. One of the big things that makes CM respectable is Gerrit, their code review mechanism that's the same as AOSP uses, except it's more of a community thing. So, you have a change you want to make to CM, be it a simple bug fix, or you want to add support for a brand new device. You make whatever changes are necessary for the code, and upload the patch set to gerrit. Anybody can sign up for a Gerrit account and do this, it's encouraged even! Your changes are vetted by folks in CM who have commit rights, and if they feel the code is of quality, it gets committed. If it doesn't, they'll tell you what's wrong and request it be updated and to try again. If they fundamentally disagree with the direction, they'll abandon the change. Now, here's the rub. The "kangers" are folks who, for whatever reason, don't want to play that game. They fork CM code off github and release their own builds, without gerring the changes back to CM. That's either because:
Along with this is the fact that CyanogenMod generally doesn't like to do releases for devices that are, at best, supported half-assed. This is particularly true in the CM9 transition where a lot of devices that have great CM7 support, don't work well in CM9 due to the lack of access to ICS proprietaries. Individual device maintainers might push alpha builds for folks wanting to "get a glimpse" of ICS, but with warnings and caveats that the camera won't work because they need new blobs, and it's "going to be a while." Some prefer to not even do that. Slopehead posted:Right now there are 4+ different ics roms for the g2. Maker Of Shoes posted:All useful development is done behind closed doors on IRC. The point is that the CM development process is very open, and the barrier for entry is, non-technically at least, relatively low. You just have to demonstrate making quality code (or other) contributions to the project. But if you can't, or don't want to do that, then you have to go find groupies on xda to pimp your next explosion filled turd poo poo abomination of a ROM.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:It's dyslexic "gank" but yes, it's silly. I thought it was just the name of the worst offender back in the early days of CM...
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From what I've seen some kangers just do it to get a nightly build out before the Cyanogemod buildbot can. Since I guess having a new nightly a few hours early is important for some people.
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I just bought a shiny new Galaxy Nexus to replace my not so shiny Droid X. I had CM7 running on the X, but I'm looking for recommendations on what to do with my Gnexus. I'm going to follow this guide for rooting. If I need recovery, I guess it is just as easy as going to Market and installing Rom Manager + flashing Clockwork? Are there roms worth using on this beast yet? CM9 nightlies?
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Gyshall posted:I just bought a shiny new Galaxy Nexus to replace my not so shiny Droid X. I had CM7 running on the X, but I'm looking for recommendations on what to do with my Gnexus. AOKP is a pretty well liked rom, I'm using GummyNex right now and I'm really liking it. There is also someone doing builds of CM9 and Pete has a BuglessBeast out that runs well.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:It's dyslexic "gank" but yes, it's silly. Haha, holy poo poo I never realized that. deong posted:I thought it was just the name of the worst offender back in the early days of CM... I always thought it was this. Gyshall posted:I just bought a shiny new Galaxy Nexus to replace my not so shiny Droid X. I had CM7 running on the X, but I'm looking for recommendations on what to do with my Gnexus. I'm currently running Rootzboat v8.0 but I also liked AOKP when I had it installed. Both are pretty solid choices for the Gnex.
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Cardiovorax posted:Nandroid is a full backup image so it restores everything completely, including kernel. Turns out this is not true. I did a Nandroid of my CM7, wanted to give CM9 a try. Flashed the kernel provided for CM9. Had some bugs so decided to go back to CM7. Just did a restore in CWM. After it finished it had the same CM9 kernel loaded, not the CM7 one. So I had to re-flash the CM7 kernel for it to work properly.
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