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So wait, does GameCenter integration mean iOS games are playable on the Mac? I don't see how that would work with multi-touch or motion-sensitive games. I don't want to have to rebuy Mac ports of all my iOS stuff. But I am psyched about the changes. Edit: The Mountain Lion icon looks pretty tame compared to Lion, gotta say. I really thought this was a joke until I loaded it on Apple's site. TACD fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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does the new Notes thing mean I have to use iCloud to sync it between iPhone and Mac or can I still use my google account (and have all the notes pushed to gmail)
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Feb 16, 2012 18:09
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bulbous nub posted:AirPlay mirroring my MBP to my AppleTV is an instant day one purchase. Everything else is just icing on the cake. This. Hopefully it means able to play videos on my Mac and have it mirrored onto AppleTV instead of having to convert them to an AppleTV-supported format.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:10
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TACD posted:So wait, does GameCenter integration mean iOS games are playable on the Mac? I don't see how that would work with multi-touch or motion-sensitive games. No, it probably just means that Mac games will get GameCenter integration like leaderboards, etc.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:12
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1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. 2. Messages. Windows Live Messenger has social integration already which is on par with this. 3. Reminders. Windows Live calendar does this and gives you alerts through windows live messenger and email. 4. Notes. NOTHING on this planet compares to Microsoft's OneNote. 5. Notification center. Windows live has one built in that you can integrate with. Oh and you also have the system tray. 6. Share sheets. Windows has had "sent to" since about 1996. 7. Twitter. Windows live integration. 8. Game center. We have shops for that and Steam and all sorts. It's an open market. 9. Airplay mirroring. Woo yay etc. Windows media player (!) does this with my Sony Bravia with no complaints. I can right click a video file and select "play on Bravia" and it appears on it straight away. This required NO CONFIGURATION and no special boxes. Both have wireless cards in them. No store or DRM available or required. 10. Gatekeeper. Windows firewall is actually on par with this and is an application AND/OR system level firewall. Microsoft security essentials is the rest. 11. Chinese features. Windows is the mainstream OS in china for a reason (i.e. excellent language support). (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 16, 2012 18:13
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Hahaha they loving stole Growl and made them into Notification Center banners, hilarious.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:14
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Kirk back to yospos with you :|
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Feb 16, 2012 18:19
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Kirk posted:1. iCloud. Have Windows Live ID and Live Mesh integration in windows for nearly 3 years now. Works across mobile devices already. I don't see what the point of this post is? Nothing Apple is doing is totally new with 10.8 , it's just slick and refined, and people will actually use it unlike half those Windows features. edit: oh I shouldn't have fallen for that
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Feb 16, 2012 18:22
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Rabid Snake posted:I hope Gatekeeper isn't going to be a pain for developers. It's not. It's basically a checkbox when you compile your application. Check box, application will run on every Mountain Lion system with default settings.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:23
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OK Messages had better support MSN when 10.8 is released 
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Feb 16, 2012 18:28
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Do I dare install Mountain Lion on my daily driver MacBook Air? 
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serebralassazin posted:I was another one of those is this a really early April's fools joke when I saw the articles but when I actually read the Verge one I was pretty happy it wasn't a joke. Funny cause I remember telling my friend AirPlay would own if it was on the laptops. May have to finally get an apple tv and stop waiting for them to come out with an A5 update. I would hold out for a bit longer, the aTV might be refreshed shortly, possibly with 1080p support, which you'd probably want with mirroring a computer display. Or at least wait until it works on the developer preview in case it's not all that great. (but apple tv is awesome right now anyway, so whatever).
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Feb 16, 2012 18:30
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Do I dare install Mountain Lion on my daily driver MacBook Air? Can't you just make a separate partition or something. Actually, can you boot an Air from USB? Wonder if you can install it on an external drive then.
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Martytoof posted:Can't you just make a separate partition or something.  edit: Download isn't going too slowly at 7 MB/s. Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 18:34
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But seriously, if I can install this to an external USB drive then I will give it a shot tonight. e: Does App Store actually tell you how fast the download is going? I redeemed my code and it's just .. downloading with no real status.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:38
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Manky posted:I'll admit to basically total ignorance in terms of how MS dev signing works, but if for OS X it's tied to an Apple account, wouldn't that make it more unlikely for it to be misused? Even if Apple doesn't require serious verification, it should be easy to trace/blacklist stuff as it goes through their system. I'd just like to see it expanded to Security Center Essentials levels. Not that the Mac malware landscape is really as large or as dangerous yet, but it'd be another bulwark that keeps us from running down the line that Microsoft has had to deal with for.. geeze... decades now. Also: Kirk: 
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Martytoof posted:But seriously, if I can install this to an external USB drive then I will give it a shot tonight.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I'm pretty sure drat near every Intel Mac can boot off of USB. Oh yeah. I forgot. Um. I guess I won't be trying this out tonight after all  subhuman hackintosh user
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unruly posted:I'd just like to see it expanded to Security Center Essentials levels. Not that the Mac malware landscape is really as large or as dangerous yet, but it'd be another bulwark that keeps us from running down the line that Microsoft has had to deal with for.. geeze... decades now. Don't forget that the system already is downloading malware signatures on a regular basis and blocking applications—there's just not a pretty front end and an animated "Scanning..." bar. It's not doing anything to stop the spread of Windows malware, but neither does MSE care about Mac malware.
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It's me, I'm the rear end in a top hat considering buying a developer account so I can run OS X alphas.
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Fren posted:It's me, I'm the rear end in a top hat considering buying a developer account so I can run OS X alphas.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:45
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That $99 could be better spent towards an SSD if you don't have one already.
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Feb 16, 2012 18:46
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Martytoof posted:Oh yeah. I forgot. Um. I guess I won't be trying this out tonight after all How were you gonna install it anyway without having a bunch of hacked up kexts or however it is hackintoshes work. Think, McFly
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Feb 16, 2012 18:46
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The .app file has a .dmg inside, just like Lion did so we could hack together a bootable install disc. I guess I'll give it a shot! 
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Kirk posted:How were you gonna install it anyway without having a bunch of hacked up kexts or however it is hackintoshes work. Think, McFly These will probably exist in 2-4 days anyway so  But yeah. Oh well, definitely looking forward to reading everyone's NDA-breaking reports  e: Just finished the download. Was nice and fast 
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If you guys haven't picked up the link from MacRumors there's a couple more interesting tidbits here:quote:Apple sees a fundamental difference between software for the keyboard-and-mouse-pointer Mac and that for the touchscreen iPad. Mountain Lion is not a step towards a single OS that powers both the Mac and iPad, but rather another in a series of steps toward defining a set of shared concepts, styles, and principles between two fundamentally distinct OSes.
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Molten Llama posted:Don't forget that the system already is downloading malware signatures on a regular basis and blocking applications—there's just not a pretty front end and an animated "Scanning..." bar. Also: ClamAV. Yes, I know that MSE doesn't give two shits about Mac malware, it's not like we can't be good citizens and remove/quarantine it when we find it. Again, this service doesn't need to be particularly in-your-face like MSE, but it should have a presence somewhere so that when some drooling middle manager or "TECH XPRT" comes by to deride OS X's apparent lack of security, they can be easily proved wrong. Also2: Can we get a .pkg uninstaller? Also3: If I install iMessage Beta, am I going to completely ruin iChat for the foreseeable future? unruly fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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I am looking for a small script or app that will cause the backlight on the screen to pulse on and off when my macbook air is hooked up to an external screen with the lid closed, thus making the apple slowly pulse as well. Is there something like this already available? or at least somewhere with enough information on the basics of mac programming to let me create my own?
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Gism0 posted:woops. Apple is loving with me.
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Is there any real reason for someone without a iOS-device to use Messages over, for instance, Adium?
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Demos posted:Is there any real reason for someone without a iOS-device to use Messages over, for instance, Adium? you can talk to people on iOS devices, isnt adium just a client for aim/msn/icq whatever networks kids use these days
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Kirk posted:you can talk to people on iOS devices, isnt adium just a client for aim/msn/icq whatever networks kids use these days Most folks I know are on Android devices of one type or another. Adium is a client, yeah. But I mean, Messages seems fairly useless unless you actually use that particular network. Which I know next to no-one who does (even the ones with iPhones/iPads).
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Demos posted:Is there any real reason for someone without a iOS-device to use Messages over, for instance, Adium? You might not have an iOS device, but if you talk to someone who has one it might be easier to use iMessages than Adium. I guess it depends on who you talk to. If you don't see a need to use it then I guess that's your answer right there. Personally I hated Adium and used iChat exclusively. Thus for me Messages.app is amazing.
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Demos posted:Most folks I know are on Android devices of one type or another. Adium is a client, yeah. But I mean, Messages seems fairly useless unless you actually use that particular network. Which I know next to no-one who does (even the ones with iPhones/iPads). if you have an iPhone and ios5 chances are you're set up for iMessage since it automatically uses it when talking to other people with iOS5
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First annoyance with Messages is that clicking on the dock icon brings up the message window instead of the buddy list. I guess I could use the menulet, but buddies that are away don't show up there.Demos posted:Is there any real reason for someone without a iOS-device to use Messages over, for instance, Adium? You can still use it without having to use the iMessage service.
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Demos posted:Most folks I know are on Android devices of one type or another. Adium is a client, yeah. But I mean, Messages seems fairly useless unless you actually use that particular network. Which I know next to no-one who does (even the ones with iPhones/iPads). I'm in California and right now am sending free text messages to friends back home in England. This is rad. Google Voice, sorry but it's looking like you missed your chance to expand overseas and enjoy a worldwide monopoly on this sort of thing. (I wish Apple would offer number-forwarding and I'd be SET.)
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AmbassadorTaxicab posted:First annoyance with Messages is that clicking on the dock icon brings up the message window instead of the buddy list. I guess I could use the menulet, but buddies that are away don't show up there. Yeah, I figured as much. But my question remains: what are the advantages of using this particular client over, for instance, a well-established IM application such as Adium? I mean, it can't hurt to try it out. I guess I'm just curious if anyone's actually switched to Messenger from other clients. It seems like it's main usefulness stems from making it easy to talk to folks with iOS-devices - which in itself isn't particularly useful to me.
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Also iChat/Messages will gladly talk over AIM/Jabber. I've got AIM and Google Chat buddies in my list right now. They just made the UI consistent with the iOS iMessages app and added iMessages protocol to iChat*. * I mean outwardly. I'm sure they rewrote a ton of poo poo inside. Demos posted:Yeah, I figured as much. But my question remains: what are the advantages of using this particular client over, for instance, a well-established IM application such as Adium? I mean, it can't hurt to try it out. I guess I'm just curious if anyone's actually switched to Messenger from other clients. It's just another messaging app. It's not themeable like Adium, and doesn't do as many protocols as Adium. If you don't need to use the iMessages protocol to talk to your iOS buddies then there is very little to entice you to convert unless you feel like trying it. Is that what you're looking for? It is, however, a very nice messaging app that is (will be) stock in the OS. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Martytoof posted:Also iChat/Messages will gladly talk over AIM/Jabber. I've got AIM and Google Chat buddies in my list right now. They just made the UI consistent with the iOS iMessages app and added iMessages protocol to iChat*. Yes, that sums it up. Thanks!
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Messages is fantastic. I had tried iChat before and went back to Adium, but the integration of iMessage makes the transition a no brainer. The single window for everything is great. The best part was when it kept a Google Talk & iMessage with the same person in one conversation. I just wish you could shrink the text size in the buddy list.
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