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I only used iChat for Facebook because not a lot of people have iPhones or Macs over here, but I'm hoping that Microsoft is going to update Messenger this year because MSN is still the go-to IM over here and the OSX messenger is pretty much from 2009. I'd use something else but aMSN looks like rear end, Adium drops messages like there's no tomorrow and Emesene crashes on load.
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If I am messaging with someone, will my iphone buzz for every incoming message even if I have the messages client open on my computer? Or is it smart enough to only push to the device that I have open?
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Feb 16, 2012 19:37
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I'm so disappointed... it looks like my early 2008 white macbook isn't going to work with Mountain Lion (it has 32-bit EFI). *sigh* I guess this is going to be a bigger upgrade than I imagined.
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Feb 16, 2012 19:41
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Tutu posted:I don't see what the point of this post is? Nothing Apple is doing is totally new with 10.8 , it's just slick and refined, and people will actually use it unlike half those Windows features. To be fair he was right on one thing, OSX really needs a OneNote.
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Feb 16, 2012 19:42
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Demos posted:I guess I'm just curious if anyone's actually switched to Messenger from other clients. Yo, that would be me. Adium > Messages: ------ MSN support Wacky skins Messages > Adium ------ iMessage support (killer app for most people - answer texts from your pc? yes plz) AV chat support Way more attractive UI Super-easy chat transcript search Super-easy interface for sending messages (start typing name, it autopopulates from address book) Neither Messages nor Adium ------ Skype support (Adium has it in a hack but all it does is echo from a running copy of Skype) Adium is slightly better than iChat unless you need AV chat. Messages blows Adium away.
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Feb 16, 2012 19:48
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dexter6 posted:If I am messaging with someone, will my iphone buzz for every incoming message even if I have the messages client open on my computer? Or is it smart enough to only push to the device that I have open?  echobucket posted:I'm so disappointed... it looks like my early 2008 white macbook isn't going to work with Mountain Lion (it has 32-bit EFI). Demos posted:Yeah, I figured as much. But my question remains: what are the advantages of using this particular client over, for instance, a well-established IM application such as Adium? I mean, it can't hurt to try it out. I guess I'm just curious if anyone's actually switched to Messenger from other clients. It seems like it's main usefulness stems from making it easy to talk to folks with iOS-devices - which in itself isn't particularly useful to me.  )
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Feb 16, 2012 19:56
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Lum_ posted:Yo, that would be me. It's the lack of FB-chat and that MSN that kind of kills it for me. I just installed it, and while it looks really great, lacking support for the network where most of my friends are active doesn't cut it.
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Feb 16, 2012 19:57
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dexter6 posted:If I am messaging with someone, will my iphone buzz for every incoming message even if I have the messages client open on my computer? Or is it smart enough to only push to the device that I have open? Rough testing reveals: If you have Messages.app open on your computer and receive a message while Messages.app has focus, your iOS device will NOT audibly notify If you have Messages.app open on your computer and receive a message while an app OTHER than Messages.app has focus, your iOS device WILL audibly notify. However all registered iMessages targets will receive the message to keep the conversation in sync.
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Feb 16, 2012 19:58
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Holy poo poo Safari 5.2 doesn't do a max tab size. This looks weird. edit: more importantly, the search box is gone. It's a unified address bar finally.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:00
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Demos posted:It's the lack of FB-chat It supports FB chat.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:00
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TACD posted:Where are you getting Mountain Lion tech specs from? http://www.anandtech.com/show/5544/apple-releases-os-x-108-mountain-lion-preview quote:The list of supported Macs includes:
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Feb 16, 2012 20:00
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Martytoof posted:Rough testing reveals: That's kind of awesome. Adium used Growl to alert me to new chats; Messages.app uses my iPhone. Growl was a lot cheaper.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:02
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Holy poo poo Safari 5.2 doesn't do a max tab size. This looks weird.  I hate not having unified URL bar -- also: can we finally customize our search engines?Messages "fullscreen": 
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Feb 16, 2012 20:03
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Ever since Lion came out, iChat (now Messages I guess) has had support for plugins to add services. There is an MSN plugin for iChat called Cocoon at the moment, but it's still a beta and has a lot of missing features (like avatars). There's also a fairly limited IRC plugin that Apple made as a proof of concept. But that's about it as far as iChat plugins go. EDIT: also Facebook chat is just Jabber so all you have to do is add it as a jabber account. (<facebookusername>@chat.facebook.com or something like that)
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Feb 16, 2012 20:04
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unruly posted:also: can we finally customize our search engines?
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Feb 16, 2012 20:05
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:edit: more importantly, the search box is gone. It's a unified address bar finally. Does the new "omnibar" show proactive results as you type a URL/query? e: Wait on second thought don't break NDA, nevermind.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:06
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:You mean like custom queries/syntax? Doesn't look like it.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:07
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Martytoof posted:Does the new "omnibar" show proactive results as you type a URL/query? 
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Feb 16, 2012 20:07
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unruly posted:More like I don't want Google, Yahoo! or Bing, can I choose a new provider (like DuckDuckGo)?
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Feb 16, 2012 20:08
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Martytoof posted:e: Wait on second thought don't break NDA, nevermind.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:09
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Doesn't look like it.  AAAAAPPLLEEEEEEE!!!!
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Feb 16, 2012 20:09
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That looks awesome, and cant wait to get home to try out Messages. So glad I can toss Adium, it seems to suffer from trillian-itis where it just keeps on getting bigger and more complex and annoying.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:12
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priznat posted:That looks awesome, and cant wait to get home to try out Messages. So glad I can toss Adium, it seems to suffer from trillian-itis where it just keeps on getting bigger and more complex and annoying.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:13
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Adobe has updated Flash for a critical security flaw [download link].
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Feb 16, 2012 20:15
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I have an odd situation with the doc at the bottom I would like a solution for. I'm using Mac OS X 10.7.2. There is a piece of software I use on my Mac that I now have two versions installed, and use both multiple times per day. I would like to have both in the doc, with an obvious marking of which is which, either different colors, or ideally the version number on top of it. I tried some googling, but I don't think I understand enough about Mac OS to build a good search string.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:15
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Instant Sunrise posted:EDIT: also Facebook chat is just Jabber so all you have to do is add it as a jabber account. (<facebookusername>@chat.facebook.com or something like that) Anyone else interested in this you can get the exact setup information from https://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php (click 'other' at the bottom).
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Feb 16, 2012 20:18
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Like this? marty's hobbies new google privacy policy already paying off (thank you )
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Feb 16, 2012 20:20
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I hope Apple will merge iMessages sent to your phone number with ones sent to your Apple ID by the time Mountain Lion is released. It sucks only having all iMessages on my iPhone and not on my iPad (and Mac from now on). Also, it would be great if text messages were synced as well.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:23
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Quick warning to anyone that wants to install on an Internet Recovery-only machine (new Macs that don't have restore media or can't like the Air and Mini): this should go without saying, but do a Time Machine backup first. Mountain Lion modifies Internet Recovery too and at first stab only wanted to reinstall Mountain Lion when in Recovery mode. Wiping out the SSD with Disk Utility and a reboot solved that though, and it's back to Lion. For those wondering, the reason I'm going back is because ML needs Xcode 4.2 which isn't compatible with some of the other developer software I use, so back I go! Thank you, fast Internet connection.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:32
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FLX posted:I hope Apple will merge iMessages sent to your phone number with ones sent to your Apple ID by the time Mountain Lion is released. It sucks only having all iMessages on my iPhone and not on my iPad (and Mac from now on). Also, it would be great if text messages were synced as well. I think there's a trick to this. You need to go into Settings --> Messages on your iOS device and tell it to change the "Caller ID" to your email address instead of your phone number. Then when people reply, it'll be sent to all your iOS devices/Messages for Mac OS X instead of just your phone. edit: I think that's how it works. I never actually did it. second edit: It's actually Settings --> Messages --> Receive At --> Caller ID Siguy fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Feb 16, 2012 |
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Feb 16, 2012 20:34
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:For those wondering, the reason I'm going back is because ML needs Xcode 4.2 which isn't compatible with some of the other developer software I use, so back I go! (Also just curious what other developer software you're using, and if you recommend it.)
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Feb 16, 2012 20:35
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Small White Dragon posted:You mean 4.4? 4.4 seems to move everything (all the tools that used to reside in the Develop folder) inside of Xcode, so I assume that's messing with things. CodeRunner can't find my compilers. It's just a small program editor that I use for class projects since Xcode is a bit unwieldy for that sort of thing.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:36
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Er yeah, that. Though, I'll shut up about Xcode, it saves me from having to install git in addition to the rest of my dev tools.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:45
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FLX posted:I hope Apple will merge iMessages sent to your phone number with ones sent to your Apple ID by the time Mountain Lion is released. It sucks only having all iMessages on my iPhone and not on my iPad (and Mac from now on). Also, it would be great if text messages were synced as well. I think it will get to the point where we will begin to use the email addressing by default. I'm not sure how the phone number addressing would work on other devices. I realized that setting my caller id in facetime and imessage to my email helps when people reply by default it will use the email addressing and get to all my devices. I never thought about it, but there's no email address authentication anyway, so what happens if I just put anyone's email to receive messages at? Now I'm curious.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:46
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Martytoof posted:Do you mean retroactively? Siguy posted:I think there's a trick to this. You need to go into Settings --> Messages on your iOS device and tell it to change the "Caller ID" to your email address instead of your phone number. Then when people reply, it'll be sent to all your iOS devices/Messages for Mac OS X instead of just your phone.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:47
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FLX posted:I did that, but most people still message me to my phone number when writing from their iPhone. I know some people who actually really don't want their text messages to be on their iPad or their computer. The reasoning was that they view their phone as a personal device that no one else should look at but their iPad is something that can sit out on the couch in the living room for other people to use. With the way Apple is emphasizing the Apple ID now (even OS updates need it in Mountain Lion apparently), I'm guessing they'll eventually abandon the phone number conceit.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:4.4 seems to move everything (all the tools that used to reside in the Develop folder) inside of Xcode, so I assume that's messing with things. CodeRunner can't find my compilers. It's just a small program editor that I use for class projects since Xcode is a bit unwieldy for that sort of thing.
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Feb 16, 2012 20:50
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Martytoof posted:Rough testing reveals: Hmm. I have messages.app open and it has focus and my iphone is still playing the new text sound alert. 
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Anyone installed on a 2011 MBA yet? I'm so tempted to do so. Sucks that I only have iOS developer status on my Apple ID right now, though.
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