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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:That guy from Wings as author insert's assistant. Which guy? Both Tim Daly and Steven Webber have previously been in King movies, so I'd hope you mean Tony Shalhoub. Also, Sleepwalkers has ruined my girlfriend's appreciation for Charmed. She apparently used to have a big crush on Brian Krause but now all she can see is that catface trying to rape girls in cemetaries. STOP STARING AT ME, YOU loving CAT.
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oldpainless posted:Also he uses "lawks-a-mussy" or something like that a lot. This is terrible when listening to an audiobook.
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# ? Feb 10, 2012 17:23 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fjTUZtpLLSc#t=342s Forgot about this. Nothing particularly amazing, was a clip from Chappelle Show when they had Paul Mooney answer questions that people had about black people. Stephen King was one of the people that asked a question.
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# ? Feb 10, 2012 19:31 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Which guy? Both Tim Daly and Steven Webber have previously been in King movies, so I'd hope you mean Tony Shalhoub. It was Weber. Tony Shalhoub would have been an interesting choice but I can't help see him as a neurotic now, always.
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# ? Feb 10, 2012 20:05 |
Ozmaugh posted:I'm skipping a lot of paragraphs as I go along. There's so much that just doesn't need to be here and isn't remotely interesting. I don't care if these kids grew up to have lovely marriages, get back to the evil clown! Dark Tower book 2 probably has the worst racist dialect because of how it's presented as a meaningful negative character trait rather than an additional detail.
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# ? Feb 10, 2012 23:26 |
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Detta Walker is supposed to be an awful racist caricature, that's kind of the point. She's what upper-class, refined Odetta Holmes thinks tough poor black women are like, breaking plates and loving honkies in parking lots.
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# ? Feb 11, 2012 02:06 |
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Detta Walker is supposed to be an awful racist caricature, that's kind of the point. She's what upper-class, refined Odetta Holmes thinks tough poor black women are like, breaking plates and loving honkies in parking lots. Giving honkies the blue balls!
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# ? Feb 11, 2012 02:38 |
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JustFrakkingDoIt posted:Giving honkies the blue balls! gently caress yo plate, you honky ma-fa!
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# ? Feb 11, 2012 04:37 |
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A discussion of King-isms and no one brought up redheads with coltish legs and bullet breasts? For shame people. You have forgotten the faces of your fathers. Fascist Funk fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Feb 11, 2012 |
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Finished Needful Things today. I enjoyed it, but...I thought the ending was kind of weird. Alan's light ball that came out of his paper flower routine came out of left field. Combining that with Gaunt being confused by the shadow figure, maybe it was supposed to suggest that Gaunt was affected by sleight of hand tricks?I didn't really get it. I did like the fact a few of the characters' lives were still ruined even though Gaunt's evil had been vanquished. Overall I'd definitely recommend it.
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# ? Feb 12, 2012 03:31 |
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Well I'm way behind. I just don't read enough. I'll finish it in a few weeks and post my thoughts.
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# ? Feb 12, 2012 04:04 |
I'm just glad to be rid of the book. I'll be back when Dark Tower 7/4.5 is out.
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# ? Feb 12, 2012 05:07 |
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crankdatbatman posted:Combining that with Gaunt being confused by the shadow figure, maybe it was supposed to suggest that Gaunt was affected by sleight of hand tricks? Potency of belief or something like that? The stuff the sheriff can do requires some kind of innocence or belief or whatever that I guess an ~evil force~ wouldn't understand. Same thing you're dealing with in IT, really, where reciting bird names somehow has power against ageless evil? It doesn't really make sense so I guess it is the ultimate Kingism. I just wrote those words and I hate myself a lil for them.
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# ? Feb 12, 2012 05:44 |
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I am a huge King fan, but I loving hate Dolores Claiborne with a burning passion. I read it once, just because it was the only King book I hadn't read, and then put it on a shelf and will never touch it again.
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# ? Feb 13, 2012 20:01 |
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arinlome posted:I am a huge King fan, but I loving hate Dolores Claiborne with a burning passion. I read it once, just because it was the only King book I hadn't read, and then put it on a shelf and will never touch it again. I enjoy the story but it's one of those times where the movie outshines the book quite easily. I finished IT. I feel like a pervo for saying this, but please explain why we get a really stupid love scene between Bev/Bill as adults but then at the end it's just "oh by the way Ben and Bev are going to Iowa together and they're probably doing it." Maybe, I dunno, a little more in the way of a conversation between the two of them might be interesting since we've sort of made an investment as a reader into Ben?
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# ? Feb 13, 2012 21:35 |
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Well, Ben was the first boy to give her an orgasm, so maybe that has something to do with it
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# ? Feb 13, 2012 23:08 |
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Ozmaugh posted:I finished IT. I feel like a pervo for saying this, but please explain why we get a really stupid love scene between Bev/Bill as adults but then at the end it's just "oh by the way Ben and Bev are going to Iowa together and they're probably doing it." I think the way he wrote it fits in with the theme of withdrawal/remoteness/forgetting that closes the book. eta I mean the way the Ben/Bev plot thread closes, not the coltish-legged redhead Gary Stu wish-fulfillment between Bill and Bev. Fascist Funk fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Feb 13, 2012 |
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Fascist Funk posted:I think the way he wrote it fits in with the theme of withdrawal/remoteness/forgetting that closes the book. Except he's willing to devote pages and pages to that weird thing with Audra at the end. Eh oh well brylcreem posted:Well, Ben was the first boy to give her an orgasm, so maybe that has something to do with it It's kind of funny to read about what stephen king thinks happens in a woman's mind when she's having an orgasm.
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 04:54 |
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Ozmaugh posted:It's kind of funny to read about what stephen king thinks happens in a woman's mind when she's having an orgasm. So... how accurate is he?
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 07:27 |
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Octy posted:So... how accurate is he? Mileage varies I guess but I'd say he's overthinking things a lot. I also don't sit around thinking about "my man" after sex or whatever, like pretty much every woman seems to in a king book. MY MAN, she thought as his seed trickled down her thigh, my man my man my man look what I can do to my man!
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 07:39 |
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Ozmaugh posted:Mileage varies I guess but I'd say he's overthinking things a lot. Yeah, I think I've repressed a lot of his sex scenes because I don't remember this kind of stuff. Mind you, I can't think of anyone who is good at writing about sex.
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Octy posted:Mind you, I can't think of anyone who is good at writing about sex.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Harry Turtledove? Never read him. Quote a few lines for me?
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Ozmaugh posted:Except he's willing to devote pages and pages to that weird thing with Audra at the end. The Audra-bike thing, I thought, was a good epilogue to everything. The bike tied into being the last bit of childhood that he had, outside of it adding to the general feeling of relief/freedom from being tied into overwhelming evil. Thematically and pacing-wise, I thought it fit.
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 15:45 |
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Octy posted:Never read him. Quote a few lines for me?
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 19:07 |
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Working my way through Full Dark, No Stars. Just finished "1922". Unless the clues are really loving obvious, I don't try to figure out the endings to books/stories. King got me on that one. I did not expect that.
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# ? Feb 14, 2012 23:26 |
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cheerfullydrab posted:Sorry, I was just making a bad joke. Turtledove is known for his horribly, horribly written sex scenes that he just randomly sprinkles throughout his books with no rhyme or reason. So he's pretty much like George R.R. Martin?
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# ? Feb 15, 2012 03:12 |
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Octy posted:So he's pretty much like George R.R. Martin? Worse. Also by far worse than King. Just for comparison, let's take a look at this scene from Turtledove's American Front, which I typed up years ago and have had sitting in a text file ever since because I like being able to bust it out in situations just like this. Harry Turtledove posted:For him to get out of his uniform, a little later, was the work of a few moments. Once naked, he saluted her without using his hands. He took his time about undressing her, pausing to kiss and caress each new bit of flesh revealed. She sighed with relief when, after detaching her stockings from their garters and sliding them down her legs, he finally peeled her out of her steel-stiffened corset. he saluted her without using his hands
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# ? Feb 15, 2012 03:29 |
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drat, that's hot. Got any more?
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# ? Feb 15, 2012 07:15 |
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:he saluted her without using his hands And now all I can think about is a penis wearing a Confederate dress uniform. Thanks for that.
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# ? Feb 15, 2012 12:12 |
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In 11/22/63 : The guy that owns the hamburger joint goes back in time to buy his hamburger meat at a discounted price. How many times does he do that and does he have to save that girl from being paralyzed each time?
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cwinkle posted:In 11/22/63 : The guy that owns the hamburger joint goes back in time to buy his hamburger meat at a discounted price. How many times does he do that and does he have to save that girl from being paralyzed each time? I think it's implied that he starts off going and buying meat every week for years. Actually, I think there was a number in the range of fifty times. But it's only when he becomes curious about trying to change time that he saves the girl. He does this once (or maybe twice) and then spends four years in there doing the JFK thing.
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# ? Feb 15, 2012 23:48 |
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cwinkle posted:In 11/22/63 : The guy that owns the hamburger joint goes back in time to buy his hamburger meat at a discounted price. How many times does he do that and does he have to save that girl from being paralyzed each time? Each trip is a reset, so any changes made are reverted when he steps back. This includes saving lives.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 00:06 |
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I finished It yesterday, after reading it 15 or so years ago. I didn't like it nearly as much as I did when I was a kid. Richie is annoying as hell, the rest was OK (well except for... ). It's been awhile since I read King so I've forgotten about his love for using weird slang that no one in the history of the world has ever used. I decided to watch the miniseries, mainly to see how'd they handle the existential end battle, and it was Real Bad. It's like they tried to cram as much of the book in there but with out the pages and pages of motivational backstory that's in the book, so I don't know how anyone who hasn't read the book would know why anyone does anything in the story. The final confrontation is laughably bad, and the movie features the worst man ponytail I've ever seen, on Bill Denbrough of all people. I think people are fond of the movie because Tim Curry as Pennywise scared the hell out of them (he's the only remotely good part of the movie) but if you'd never seen it before, like me, it's loving awful. One thing that really hosed over my rereading of It is the horrible author wish-fulfillment scene where college-Bill tells off his snooty professor on his way to becoming the Greatest Horror Author of All-time. I know that King is famous for his writer-characters, but Jesus this was blatant.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 20:13 |
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zoux posted:One thing that really hosed over my rereading of It is the horrible author wish-fulfillment scene Yeah, that was really, really awful. But the one with Ben confronting the coach wasn't much better, really. Bill Denbrough with a ponytail after someone calls him chrome dome in the book is hilarious. And I think that the director lamented that a lot of stuff looked lame but there simply wasn't a budget to do much, nor did they have a lot of leeway since it was just a miniseries. But the end was still awful. I'm on Tommyknockers now, and it's a bit better than I remembered.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 20:22 |
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I read It because I was reading 1963 and got to the part when he went back to Derry, and I hate missing references so I thought I'd go back and read one of my most-fondly remembered King books before I proceeded. I'm planning on finishing the new one, but is there any point to going further with him? I loved him in high school and I'd rather keep fond memories of being weirded out by Desperation and Tommyknockers than turning a jaundiced 30-year-old eye to books to find out they suck now.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 20:39 |
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I enjoy reading him even if I kvetch about some of his stuff here. The Shining and Pet Sematary are ones that I reread frequently and really enjoy re-reading. Pet Sematary in particular isn't overwritten; I'm not sure how he pulled that off, really, but he did. That one's worth going back to anytime, I think.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 20:42 |
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I've never actually read either of those. I'll check 'em out.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 20:47 |
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I'm overdue for a Salem's Lot reread. Early King rules.
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# ? Feb 17, 2012 21:35 |
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Ozmaugh posted:I enjoy reading him even if I kvetch about some of his stuff here. I honestly believe that Pet Sematary is the scariest book King has ever written. It seems to get left out of discussion and that's a crime. It's just as good as the big S books: Shining/Salem's Lot/Stand.
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