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Holocausplay posted:This is one of those things that makes me love and hate sabermetrics and wonky blogs about contracts and poo poo, because there are all these talented dudes with jobs as statisticians, market analysts and attorneys who really don't give a poo poo that they're turning in 2,000-word columns for $50. They don't need to care. Although this isn't exclusive to sports journalism. Almost all media review is dominated by happy fans who just want to share their opinions and will glut the market. You can write a smart 1,000-word review of a new history book and not only be on the hook for obtaining your own copy but be obliged to spend 10 hours reading it and cash a lavish $30 check for your troubles. At the same time, there are enough people out there that are super happy someone is basically letting them read and write about books for free.
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David Brooks wrote a column about Jeremy Lin, burn everything. EVERYTHING. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/opinion/brooks-the-jeremy-lin-problem.html?_r=1&ref=davidbrooks
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leokitty posted:David Brooks wrote a column about Jeremy Lin, burn everything. EVERYTHING. David Brooks posted:Jeremy Lin is anomalous in all sorts of ways. He’s a Harvard grad in the N.B.A., an Asian-American man in professional sports. But we shouldn’t neglect the biggest anomaly. He’s a religious person in professional sports. 
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stuart scott irl posted:WHAT WHAT?!
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Tae posted:WHAT?! PLAYOFFS?!
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leokitty posted:David Brooks wrote a column Any more details that you are reading are more retarded. If you are doing something about this other than making fun of it, you are being really retarded.
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Holocausplay posted:I have just detected the retarded you are reading. But why does the Times keep letting him write things 
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SWITCH HITLER posted:How dead is radio btw dunno but there seems to be a lot of guys named Mike
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Holocausplay posted:This is one of those things that makes me love and hate sabermetrics and wonky blogs about contracts and poo poo, because there are all these talented dudes with jobs as statisticians, market analysts and attorneys who really don't give a poo poo that they're turning in 2,000-word columns for $50. They don't need to care. Although this isn't exclusive to sports journalism. Almost all media review is dominated by happy fans who just want to share their opinions and will glut the market. You can write a smart 1,000-word review of a new history book and not only be on the hook for obtaining your own copy but be obliged to spend 10 hours reading it and cash a lavish $30 check for your troubles. Yeah, I've ran into this. It's cool when they expect it to be for free, since "it's exposure." And if I back out, there's people willing to fill those inches. It's always a lot of fun to deal with those outlets: I once had to badger a guy for two months just to get a copy of a magazine I was published in. That column rules, it's hilarious how everyone is turning a perfect storm into a Horatio Alger story.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:dunno but there seems to be a lot of guys named Mike Mike Dupp and Mike Zaun are numbahs 1 and 1-A.
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jeffersonlives posted:Mike Dupp and Mike Zaun are numbahs 1 and 1-A. I just noticed this week that the radio show formerly known as Mike Dupp changed to Mike Zaun. What's up with that?
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OrangeKing posted:I just noticed this week that the radio show formerly known as Mike Dupp changed to Mike Zaun. What's up with that? NBC was going to sue because he stopped doing the Mike'd Up show for them I think
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OrangeKing posted:I just noticed this week that the radio show formerly known as Mike Dupp changed to Mike Zaun. What's up with that? NBC owns the rights to the Mike Dupp name and wouldn't sell them to CBS because they're in a tiff. WFAN didn't want to redo the theme song so they made it Mike Zaun and did a lovely dub.
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That was essentially the scenario I assumed, but thanks for clarifying guys. On this topic, I heard several callers today credit Mike with solving the Time Warner/MSG crisis; throughout the course of the day, his reactions changed from "that's silly, I clearly didn't do anything" to "hey, if you want to give me credit, I guess I'll take it" to "yes, I am the #1 radio show in this city, I suppose that Lin kid might have had some influence too though."
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LtTennisBall posted:was it a school in Boston? I'm a journalism student at BU (granted I plan on doing music journalism because I enjoy pain) and I can see where sports journalism would really suck. My brother originally wanted to do sports journalism, but instead he's doing more PR (he's a sports media relations intern at The University of Maryland) and he absolutely loves it. Yes, school in boston, press pass, the works.
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jeffersonlives posted:Hope he's got good unemployment LINsurance!
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jeffersonlives posted: that's horrible. I can imagine more than one person will get fired for that.I guess ESPN put out a statement this morning: "Last night, ESPN.com's mobile web site posted an offensive headline referencing Jeremy Lin at 2:30 am ET. The headline was removed at 3:05 am ET. We are conducting a complete review of our cross-platform editorial procedures and are determining appropriate disciplinary action to ensure this does not happen again. We regret and apologize for this mistake."
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I guarantee someone involved in that decision was like, "Yeah... But only a racist would construe that as racist! It's a figure of speech - he just happens to be Chinese!"
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ESPN employs subtle racists and then sometimes people that are there solely to compare everything to black people. Stephan A Smith is the front runner for this, but there's a couple writers that literally attribute anything and everything to black and/or religious people. One wrote the Detroit Lions as basically declaring war on Christians for doing the Tebow motion everytime they sacked Tebow.
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BackInTheUSSR posted:There's a pretty good piece about Stephen A in the ESPN book that basically said that ESPN asked him to create a black persona and be over-the-top about race, and then when he did that, ESPN told him that he was too black and that they were no longer comfortable with him being featured so prominently. Is the ESPN book any good?
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jeffersonlives posted:that is amazing
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Nut Bunnies posted:Jon Heyman made a "best signings of the offseason" list. It's worse than I could have ever imagined. This is the worst thing I've ever read. Good god 
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BackInTheUSSR posted:There are bits that are interesting but I thought it was too long and went into too much depth about mergers, acquisitions, MNF/SNF, etc. The best nuggets are from disgruntled commentators who don't really care what ESPN The Brand thinks about their comments. Stephen A was candid, anything about Olbermann was great, and the parts about the culture at early ESPN being incredibly sexist (and also basically one giant orgy) were interesting. I haven't finished it yet, but this is pretty much a perfect review. I get the feeling that they couldn't get as much juicy gossip as they had anticipated, so they had to fill space with some seemingly endless business stuff that populates much of the early part of the book. And yeah, the Olbermann stuff is great. The guy is a magnificent bastard.
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Nut Bunnies posted:Jon Heyman made a "best signings of the offseason" list. It's worse than I could have ever imagined. Well that is certainly a thing. Jesus gently caress, Heyman. Kill yourself. BackInTheUSSR posted:There are bits that are interesting but I thought it was too long and went into too much depth about mergers, acquisitions, MNF/SNF, etc. The best nuggets are from disgruntled commentators who don't really care what ESPN The Brand thinks about their comments. Stephen A was candid, anything about Olbermann was great, and the parts about the culture at early ESPN being incredibly sexist (and also basically one giant orgy) were interesting. Having just finished it myself, I have to completely agree with you there. I suspect they couldn't get as much dirt as they hoped for and just started stuffing pages with business BS filler.
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toadee posted:Albert Pujols is literally not even on the list. I don't even know what is happening in this world. It is "bargain signings" so it's tough to put super-rich contracts on there
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No Safe Word posted:It is "bargain signings" so it's tough to put super-rich contracts on there You know that Prince Fielder is there, right?
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:I get the feeling that they couldn't get as much juicy gossip as they had anticipated, so they had to fill space with some seemingly endless business stuff that populates much of the early part of the book. This is the exact same thing I'd say about Extra 2 Percent
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