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I played the bank robbery mission in Vice City so many times because I thought it was the greatest mission ever. "drat, it's a Flangee 9000!"
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Feb 19, 2012 03:10
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The thing about the bank robbery in Vice City is that it's not only about the escape. You plan the entire thing. You have to get a driver, you have to get partners, the weapons, the whole thing. So when you finally do the mission, it's a huge loving deal and the buildup was perfect. The only compliment I can get Three Leaf Clover is that it properly sends you through a variety of locations in the city, but the actual mission and execution is pretty boring. I mean, really, a bank robbery mission? And the actual robbery is just a cutscene? Christ.
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Feb 19, 2012 03:14
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Timeless Appeal posted:I'll be honest, when I first played GTA IV, I think I must have attempted Three Leaf Clover about a dozen times in one evening. I had to turn it off because hearing the McReary dialogue on the way over was making me physically sick. It's been said over and over again, but it still amazes me that the GTA devs noticed that people were complaining about hearing the same dialogue over and over from having to restart missions, and their response was to include alternate lines of dialogue instead of a working checkpoint system  Himuro posted:The thing about the bank robbery in Vice City is that it's not only about the escape. You plan the entire thing. You have to get a driver, you have to get partners, the weapons, the whole thing. So when you finally do the mission, it's a huge loving deal and the buildup was perfect. I loved San Andreas' casino robbery as well for taking it a step further with the preparation (like stealing police motorcycles and romancing an employee for her keycard) and because of how over-the-top the climax was with you running around the top of the casino. Plus the running gag where more and more people kept stumbling into your secret meeting and getting involved so that by the end you have an entire room full of people in on the job was pretty funny.
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Feb 19, 2012 03:26
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Himuro posted:The thing about the bank robbery in Vice City is that it's not only about the escape. You plan the entire thing. You have to get a driver, you have to get partners, the weapons, the whole thing. So when you finally do the mission, it's a huge loving deal and the buildup was perfect. Except actually doing the missions to recruit those specialists were absolutely loving awful and not fun to get through at all.
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Feb 19, 2012 03:52
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SA's casino mission was fantastic.Alouicious posted:Except actually doing the missions to recruit those specialists were absolutely loving awful and not fun to get through at all. It was fine for me. I can beat the driving mission on my first try each time I play VC.
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Feb 19, 2012 03:53
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How is that possible? That race against that guy in VC is the worst GTA mission ever. Everything is stacked against you.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:04
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It's easy. Just push the pedal to the metal, bro. Make sure he hits poo poo. He's not that fast.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:11
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Himuro posted:
Apply this with 3 Leaf Clover for everyone who enjoys it. Its an easy fun mission for me. I might have died once when I first played ever since then its just fun shootout
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Feb 19, 2012 04:51
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the_american_dream posted:Apply this with 3 Leaf Clover for everyone who enjoys it. Its an easy fun mission for me. I might have died once when I first played ever since then its just fun shootout Yeah I didn't have any trouble with that mission at all, and it was really fun. One of the few standouts among a lot of forgettable missions in that game.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:05
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Three Leaf Clover, the museum mission that they did in both of the expansions and the vanilla game, and the final mission are the only missions I remember from that game at all.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:08
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I guess I'm just better at older GTA games. I'm not good at GTAIV at all, mostly because the controls drive me crazy.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:24
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Himuro posted:I guess I'm just better at older GTA games. I'm not good at GTAIV at all, mostly because the controls drive me crazy. Did you play on console or PC? I played on the 360 and didn't have a problem, control wise.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:35
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360. Everything about the game is slow. It takes Niko five minutes to jack a car. It takes Niko 30 seconds to get off a wall. The old GTA games may not have had perfect controls but they were fast.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:53
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Although I guess I miss jumping while tapping L+R to see your guy dance in midair I definitely wouldnt trade GTA4s physics to go back to the old style. There is a trick to hotwire a car faster though, tap up/down or something? I dont know what you mean about the wall comment though, hit the cover button and youll instantly detach.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:59
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Tapping accelerate and brake while hotwiring a car makes it happen quicker. I never felt the game was all that slow, though. GTAIV was the first third person game to use the RAGE engine so it does have some rough spots, but most of those have been ironed out in other, newer games that use the engine.
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Feb 19, 2012 06:15
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Going back to GTA4 from RDR makes the speed difference really noticeable. Camera movement feels sluggish, as does moving along/between cover, and the reticule gets weird when you swap between manual and automatic aim.
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Feb 19, 2012 06:31
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I'm not talking about the hot wiring, I'm talking about the animations. If you jack a car from someone already in the vehicle, more often than not, Niko will spend like an hour getting into it when all that's necessary is punch in the driver's kisser.
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Feb 19, 2012 06:43
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Himuro posted:I'm not talking about the hot wiring, I'm talking about the animations. If you jack a car from someone already in the vehicle, more often than not, Niko will spend like an hour getting into it when all that's necessary is punch in the driver's kisser. But in the old games, the player/cops/pissed-off pedestrians never grabbed the door handle at the wrong time and got dragged along for an involuntary ride.
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Feb 19, 2012 06:48
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I'm looking for someone to do the "Fly the Co-Op" achievement on xbox live with tonight. Preferably two people. Anyone interested? Send me something on my GT: 'LA ATTACK'
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Feb 19, 2012 07:00
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Himuro posted:I'm not talking about the hot wiring, I'm talking about the animations. If you jack a car from someone already in the vehicle, more often than not, Niko will spend like an hour getting into it when all that's necessary is punch in the driver's kisser. Or just point your gun at the driver and they'll usually run out.
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Feb 19, 2012 07:22
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Of course it's hyperbole, but the overall point is that the game is extremely slow. Hopefully GTAV is a more intuitive experience. For reference, I'm talking about this: http://youtu.be/w42BnrhYid4?t=5m41s Not that one specific car jack animation, but the more elaborate ones, which take an upward of 10 or so seconds before I'm driving. I can appreciate the details, though. Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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Feb 19, 2012 07:32
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Cage posted:Or just point your gun at the driver and they'll usually run out. I find they tend to either reverse really quickly or run you over, which while hilarious, requires you to find another car that's suitable.
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Feb 19, 2012 07:39
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What animations play are tied to what weapon you have equipped at the time. So if you just want to punch them in the face and take their car, equip your fists before you jack the car.
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Feb 19, 2012 07:49
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Himuro posted:Of course it's hyperbole, but the overall point is that the game is extremely slow. Hopefully GTAV is a more intuitive experience.
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Feb 19, 2012 18:50
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The animation/scenario I'm thinking of now involves the main character threatening the driver with a gun to their head while the driver slowly gets out of the car while two-star+ cops fire upon both of them and landing hits on the driver or Niko, or whoever.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:00
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crazysim posted:The animation/scenario I'm thinking of now involves the main character threatening the driver with a gun to their head while the driver slowly gets out of the car while two-star+ cops fire upon both of them and landing hits on the driver or Niko, or whoever. This one.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:21
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At that point if cops are after you just shoot the driver.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:29
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Or jack the car from the passenger side, Niko will just boot the driver out and you're done.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:42
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crazysim posted:The animation/scenario I'm thinking of now involves the main character threatening the driver with a gun to their head while the driver slowly gets out of the car while two-star+ cops fire upon both of them and landing hits on the driver or Niko, or whoever. Knives and Hot Dust posted:At that point if cops are after you just shoot the driver. edit: uploaded this because it was in my rendered folder and youtube has drag/drop uploading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrEDPkCCqkc Cage fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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Feb 19, 2012 21:43
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At some point in the game I eventually just started shooting out the driver window in parked cars so Niko would stop doing the "pull locked door handle...sidestep...smash elbow through window...swing around and unlock door" animation.
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Feb 20, 2012 07:05
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^^^ my friend showed me that and I was so grateful for it. crazysim posted:The animation/scenario I'm thinking of now involves the main character threatening the driver with a gun to their head while the driver slowly gets out of the car while two-star+ cops fire upon both of them and landing hits on the driver or Niko, or whoever. Yeah this animation is loving way too long. Especially since I think there is one where after its all said and done and the driver is out Nico bashes 'em in head for another second of "GODDAMNIT NICO GET IN THE loving CAR gently caress FUCKKKKK" I only play with cheats in this game so I can only imagine how frustrating it is doing this and not being able to ~magic phone~ everything away. My dad played this for the first time the other day and the first thing he did was shoot someone, go to get in a car and say, "GET IN THE CAR FASTER GODDAMNIT AHHHH". Then he died. verbal enema fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Feb 20, 2012 |
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Feb 20, 2012 07:09
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Himuro posted:I'm not talking about the hot wiring, I'm talking about the animations. If you jack a car from someone already in the vehicle, more often than not, Niko will spend like an hour getting into it when all that's necessary is punch in the driver's kisser.
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Feb 22, 2012 02:10
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I just hope there are no toll booths. They made driving from Bohan to East Island really annoying. I hope for GTAV, Rockstar just make some dick pun on FasTrak and assume every car has one.
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Feb 23, 2012 18:37
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ElwoodCuse posted:How is that possible? That race against that guy in VC is the worst GTA mission ever. Everything is stacked against you. As a kid I could never beat that mission. I was awful at racing, you have a slower car, and like 4 stars if I remember correctly. That is as far as I ever made it in Vice City I'm pretty sure.
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Feb 23, 2012 19:02
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Suran37 posted:As a kid I could never beat that mission. I was awful at racing, you have a slower car, and like 4 stars if I remember correctly. That is as far as I ever made it in Vice City I'm pretty sure. If you were a kid you shouldn't have been playing an M rated game 
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Feb 23, 2012 21:08
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I gave up on GTA 4 on the 3 leaf clover mission aswell. On my second try Nico managed to trip his dumb self over (for no apparent reason), and roll into a roadside repair hole, only to get stuck, forever trapped in a screaming falling animation.
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Feb 23, 2012 22:21
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I think I beat the VC driver mission on my first try, but it was on the PC and I had the frame limiter off which made decelerating almost instantaneous. You can just go balls-out until about 10' from a 90 degree corner, hit the brakes (or even just letting off the gas) and make the turn with ease. Strangely though, having the frame limiter off makes reverse all but impossible to use as it creeps along about 1 pixel per second and makes the slow-mo jump cameras take about 50x longer as well. I just played both of IV's expansions again and the game's controls have not aged well at all. Any time you got into a gunfight in close quarters, it was impossible to aim and get line of sight at poo poo and you'd get stuck to walls and all sorts of other crap while being filled with lead. Looking at you, Snow Storm in the burned-out hospital. Red Dead's controls were exponentially better though and felt far more fluid and responsive. My only other gripe with IV is the Vaseline-Vision and horrible shadows (console version anyway.) Still loved the game and had a blast with it.
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Feb 23, 2012 23:41
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The Driver mission in VC was frustrating as loving hell the first time I played VC (when I was like 13). I think I finally ended up finishing it by ramming the opponent into a wall or traffic or something early on so I could get ahead and not have to worry about him catching up easily. The other mission that frustrated me to no end was the one where you have to jump all the rooftops on a motorcycle to activate the spotlight. I remember I tried over and over again, and every time, I'd get to this one spot but miss the next loving jump and I'd have to start from a location that was several rooftops behind where I had gotten to. The time limit would always expire as a result of this. I ended up giving up on the game altogether for something like 6 months. Then when I came back to it, I passed that mission on the first try 
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Feb 23, 2012 23:51
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:The other mission that frustrated me to no end was the one where you have to jump all the rooftops on a motorcycle to activate the spotlight. I remember I tried over and over again, and every time, I'd get to this one spot but miss the next loving jump and I'd have to start from a location that was several rooftops behind where I had gotten to. The time limit would always expire as a result of this.  Try using a helicopter next time, you just need to land at each checkpoint.
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Feb 24, 2012 00:07
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Spalec posted:
Haha well that was many years ago. I've beaten the game a few times since then, and I think I used a helicopter for that mission on at least one of my subsequent playthroughs. I guess I just wasn't thinking out of the box the first time I did it, and the route they presented you with wasn't a very easy one.
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