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Why is it so impossible to find anyone on my skill level? Everybody I fight has "Beginner" rank yet they're loving gods. I feel like if I rank up I'll fight shittier people.
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Heath posted:Why is it so impossible to find anyone on my skill level? Everybody I fight has "Beginner" rank yet they're loving gods. I feel like if I rank up I'll fight shittier people. It depends on what day it is and what time of day. I live in Chicago and when I played ranked on a late Saturday night pretty much everyone sucks.
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Feb 16, 2012 23:43
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If you hate hidden missiles just run Captain America on point and murder doom every time he gets called.
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Feb 16, 2012 23:56
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If you're getting blown up by Hidden Missiles, you have to go after Doom. Most players aren't that good at protecting Doom and he's out there forever. If you don't kill him, even doing a solid punish against him is sometimes enough to deter your opponent from calling him at least for a little while.
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Feb 17, 2012 03:00
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Here's the best way to deal with Hidden Missiles: Snap Doom at the beginning of the match and kill his rear end. Seriously if there is one thing I've learned as a beginner player trying to get better at this game...its that you can't just block poo poo like drones and missiles forever, especially if your character can't deal with them. Learn some mixups, and use your meter for a snapback, then go for a mixup on the incoming character. If your opponent really wants to save them for their assist, they are going to have to try to snap them back in, which either involves DHCing into someone else, or doing a raw tag, which in itself is extremely risking. Once you've got rid of your opponent's best assist character things get a lot easier on you.
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Feb 17, 2012 08:09
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SpaceBees posted:Here's the best way to deal with Hidden Missiles: Snap Doom at the beginning of the match and kill his rear end. While I agree this is a legitimate way to do it I think on a team dependent basis you could just murder him when he comes in as an assist. A good multi-hitting super followed by X-factor and a second, possibly a DHC to confirm the kill can be a pretty easy way to take out assists and may possibly catch the point character too.
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Feb 17, 2012 10:19
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SpaceBees posted:Seriously if there is one thing I've learned as a beginner player trying to get better at this game...its that you can't just block poo poo like drones and missiles forever, especially if your character can't deal with them. Learn some mixups, and use your meter for a snapback, then go for a mixup on the incoming character. If your opponent really wants to save them for their assist, they are going to have to try to snap them back in, which either involves DHCing into someone else, or doing a raw tag, which in itself is extremely risking. Once you've got rid of your opponent's best assist character things get a lot easier on you. I love it when people snap in Doom so I can use him with EM Disruptah assist 
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Feb 17, 2012 14:27
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World Game Cup is going on now at http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse Mago/Fuudo/Tokido were doing 3v3 matches against other countries. Tokido was the only one who had any idea how to play the game.
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Feb 17, 2012 16:35
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Chocolate America posted:World Game Cup is going on now at http://www.twitch.tv/armshouse What's the best country at UMvC?
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Feb 17, 2012 16:46
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Thundercracker posted:What's the best country at UMvC? Fuudo and Mago are terrible at MVC. Tokido was the whole team. Some random Euro team beat Fuudo and Mago then Tokido reverse OCV'd them with Phoenix. Some dude from Holland then OCV'd Japan with X-23/Dorm/someone and then the Japanese MadCatz dudes had to go play other games. They're running SFxT now so sorry for the late post on that.
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Feb 17, 2012 16:49
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Dacidbro and FChamp are playing on FGTV now: http://www.twitch.tv/fgtvlive
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Feb 18, 2012 04:06
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Since vita is out now, has anyone found a source for all the hitboxes and stuff? I mostly just want throw boxes but if anyone knows where to find some of this stuff I'd appreciate it a lot!
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Feb 18, 2012 11:49
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Jesus I'm getting sick of fighting Wesker.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:07
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I actually don't fight that many. I fight a ton of Hawkeyes though.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:08
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So, I finally have this game, YAY...? I have no idea who I'm gonna play. X-23/Ammy/Doom was my first thought, or Morrigan/something/Doom, but my biggest issue with the first team is that X-23 deals literally no damage unless you have a modicum of execution, which I don't - how the HELL do you TK qcf L after a qcf L?. Morrigan/something/Doom sounds nice, and I get to be yet another annoying Ikaruga boss, but I need to figure out who will be the other character. Wesker as a safeguard comes to mind, or VJoe for even more projectile fun. Also, I'm having the same problem everyone that picks up Doom has, landing the goddamn Buktooth loop. My issue is that after the relaunch, sometimes it seems like I'm hitting the guy too high and no matter how delayed I make the j.M after ADDF, it's still too high for cr.M/H to hit. So right now I only have a BnB on the corner, since footdive loop is ridiculously easy. Day one, heh.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:16
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Morrigan takes quite a bit of execution to be effective as well, so you might want to look at leveling up your execution or picking some easier characters. I'm thinking of running a Dorm/Morrigan/Doom team because Doom helps them both quite a bit with Plasma Beam or Hidden Missiles. Dorm doesn't help Morrigan all that much, but Morrigan is Dorm's bff with the meter assist. Stalking flares everywhere.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:20
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theguy2687 posted:I actually don't fight that many. I fight a ton of Hawkeyes though. I fight them so often I have all of his silly phrases burned into my mind. I see why everybody picks him though, he's basically invincible. I heard Maximum Spider make contact with his face in one fight but nope, since he's Wesker his super gets to go off anyway. Spiderman apparently just phased through him. His normals apparently take priority over every other character because he's Wesker. He's the only character I know of that gets a permanent damage boost just because he's Wesker. His gun shoots bullets that are 10 feet tall and interrupt everything. Somehow his counter super can grab Hulk, who just jumped into space and grabbed a meteorite mid-flight, and then launch into a fresh combo. Taskmaster can do the same thing, I guess, but as far as I know he can't continue the combo after his counter. Every loving match.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:04
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theguy2687 posted:Dorm doesn't help Morrigan all that much, Couldn't possibly disagree more. Hidden Missiles assist bumps up Morrigan a tier by itself.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:44
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Shiki Dan posted:Couldn't possibly disagree more. Dorm = Dormammu
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Feb 19, 2012 05:45
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gently caress me, my terrible eyesight and I hate that abbreviation for Dormammu. Especially since every loving Dormammu player except me pairs him up with Doom now.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:48
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Would probably be easier to just call it team Doomammu. "You have no hope! Run, RUN!!!"
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Feb 19, 2012 06:08
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Shiki Dan posted:gently caress me, my terrible eyesight and I hate that abbreviation for Dormammu. I don't. I was thinking about a theoretical Dorm/Doom team because plasma beam would really help with Dormammu's zoning. I run Cap/Dormammu/Morrigan. Not the best team, but one of the better teams I could come up with using characters I actually like. TaurusOxford posted:Would probably be easier to just call it team Doomammu. "Welcome to my realm. This game is over!"
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Feb 19, 2012 08:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv13kYuLDE0 30 minutes of helpful Morrigan tech and hints! And it's only part 1!
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Feb 19, 2012 16:52
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I'm so happy Morrigan is getting love in this game. She's one of my favorite fighting game characters and she made me so sad in vanilla. Too much work for very little reward. At least now she's still work, but you actually get a reward.
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Feb 19, 2012 16:57
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I'm not a huge fan of this game per se and so I tend to skim over certain things, but I'm pretty sure that even from the perspective of a casual observer, Australia's ArnoldDesu has a loving amazing Morrigan (and his pocket Trish/Storm aren't bad either). I'm pretty sure his maze of projectiles is impossibly good. http://www.twitch.tv/ozhadou/b/309033360 His match against NefeliousG is at 2 hours 36 mins, his match against LowBlow in the winner's final is at 3 hours 4 mins, and the grand final against ToXY is at 3 hours 16 mins. He won OHNX against a pretty heavy field, beating guys like ToXY and NefeliousG (who was top 25 at EVO last year). Keep in mind, he's been playing MVC for less than a year, plays on pad, doesn't use male characters in any game he plays, and has just turned 18. Plus, every time he does something awesome, he just smiles surprisedly at himself as if he didn't know he could do it. It's infectious.
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Feb 19, 2012 17:13
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theguy2687 posted:I'm so happy Morrigan is getting love in this game. She's one of my favorite fighting game characters and she made me so sad in vanilla. Too much work for very little reward. At least now she's still work, but you actually get a reward. She's also an incredible troll/hate mail generator. People online absolutely DESPISE zoning.
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Feb 19, 2012 19:23
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Hey guys I was bored so I made a tier list. The left/right arrangement in the tiers is random, assume all chars in a tier are roughly equal. Also I put 3 chars on the lower left corner who I think haven't been explored enough to really know how good they are. 
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Jmcrofts posted:Hey guys I was bored so I made a tier list. The left/right arrangement in the tiers is random, assume all chars in a tier are roughly equal. Also I put 3 chars on the lower left corner who I think haven't been explored enough to really know how good they are. RR and Jill are doo-doo. MODOK has upper-mid tier potential. Felicia and Strange are at least Trish-level. Other than that, I agree pretty much. Still think Viper is overrated though.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:37
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Jmcrofts posted:Hey guys I was bored so I made a tier list. The left/right arrangement in the tiers is random, assume all chars in a tier are roughly equal. Also I put 3 chars on the lower left corner who I think haven't been explored enough to really know how good they are. I agree with this list a lot more than I thought I would, but I wouldn't put Zero in his own tier. Also Strider is easily two tiers lower.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:40
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Shiki Dan posted:RR and Jill are doo-doo. I played strange for a good while abd I think his place is correct.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:41
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Brett824 posted:I agree with this list a lot more than I thought I would, but I wouldn't put Zero in his own tier. Also Strider is easily two tiers lower. I based this list on "overall value to the team" and Strider having the best assist in the game easily puts him that high. E: also Zero is miles ahead of every other character and if I wanted this tier list to be more realistic I would have put a bigger gap between him and everyone else.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:41
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Jmcrofts posted:I based this list on "overall value to the team" and Strider having the best assist in the game easily puts him that high. I think you're even overvaluing his assist. So few characters are actually effective at getting damage off of it, and it doesn't even catch characters with decent air mobility at super jump height.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:47
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Brett824 posted:I think you're even overvaluing his assist. So few characters are actually effective at getting damage off of it, and it doesn't even catch characters with decent air mobility at super jump height. Pretty much every character in my top tier gets crazy damage off that assist. Mags and Dorm can only get super though.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:54
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Jmcrofts posted:Pretty much every character in my top tier gets crazy damage off that assist. Mags and Dorm can only get super though. On the contrary, I'd say that Doom and Wesker (and maybe Viper) are the only characters in that tier that get tons of damage for free off of it pretty much regardless of range. Regardless of that, it doesn't hit nearly as often as it did week 1 and it's not very difficult to stuff before it hits or punish after you block it. Calling it the best assist in the game is crazy.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:58
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Goodpart posted:I'm not a huge fan of this game per se and so I tend to skim over certain things, but I'm pretty sure that even from the perspective of a casual observer, Australia's ArnoldDesu has a loving amazing Morrigan (and his pocket Trish/Storm aren't bad either). I'm pretty sure his maze of projectiles is impossibly good. Those were some pretty fun matches. I love watching a good Morrigan control the screen. Though I'm hoping that someone eventually plays a Morrigan that is a cross between Omniscythe's rushdown-only Morrigan and Dieminion/Arnold's primarily zoning oriented Morrigan.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:59
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Hey I got this game awhile back and finally decided to go online. If you want to beat up on a scrub add me. I usually stick with Vergil and Zero. PSN: SolKaio
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Feb 19, 2012 23:22
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Brett824 posted:On the contrary, I'd say that Doom and Wesker (and maybe Viper) are the only characters in that tier that get tons of damage for free off of it pretty much regardless of range. Regardless of that, it doesn't hit nearly as often as it did week 1 and it's not very difficult to stuff before it hits or punish after you block it. Calling it the best assist in the game is crazy. Off the top of my head, Zero, Doom, Wesker, Viper, Dante, Nova, Firebrand, Deadpool, and probably Firebrand and Skrull should be able to get a full combo from a landed vajra regardless of screen positioning, with Rocket, Frank, Spencer, Haggar, Hawkeye and Iron Man able to get full combos near the corner. Given that I'm probably forgetting some, that's a huge portion of the top and high tiers able to directly benefit from this assist, and given its fast startup and lack of vulnerable frames it's not nearly as easy to punish as you make it sound. I don't think it's at all unfair to call it one of the best assists in the game.
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Sade posted:Off the top of my head, Zero, Doom, Wesker, Viper, Dante, Nova, Firebrand, Deadpool, and probably Firebrand and Skrull should be able to get a full combo from a landed vajra regardless of screen positioning What? How is half that list getting a full combo off a self-OTG at mid to full screen? Deadpool doesn't even get effective combos off a self OTG based on any positioning. It's a good assist, but not good enough to bump him above 8 extra characters in terms of usefulness on anyone's tier list and I think there's a reason why you don't see a lot of Strider anymore and even Floe is considering dropping him (and/or Nemesis).
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Morrigan is fine now, but this game needs a stronger zoning game period. Bring back Spiral and Cable plus make Arthur better please.
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Brett824 posted:Deadpool doesn't even get effective combos off a self OTG based on any positioning.
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