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I find it more disturbing that wonga with their 4214% apr(!!!!) are allowed to advertise on television.
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I want to shotgun those Wonga puppets and set them ablaze to save whatever consists of a rational mans soul. Is this normal?
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Feb 18, 2012 15:57
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Giedroyc posted:I find it more disturbing that wonga with their 4214% apr(!!!!) are allowed to advertise on television.
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Feb 18, 2012 16:48
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ConanThe3rd posted:I get those are supposed to be short (Extremely short, even, like you're supposed to pay it off in a matter of weeks or something) but still, that's 81% weeklypr. Sounds like a bit of a mug's game, really. That's not how interest works - it's more like 7% a week.
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Feb 18, 2012 16:55
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Jonnty posted:That's not how interest works - it's more like 7% a week. 4214% APR / 52 Weeks in a year = 81% Unless I'm missing something.
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Feb 18, 2012 17:01
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ConanThe3rd posted:4214% APR / 52 Weeks in a year = 81%
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Feb 18, 2012 17:03
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Giedroyc posted:I find it more disturbing that wonga with their 4214% apr(!!!!) are allowed to advertise on television. Especially when you consider they're eliminating crisis loans.
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Feb 18, 2012 17:19
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Z-Magic posted:Especially when you consider they're eliminating crisis loans. Another winning idea from the people who brought you "terminally ill people with over 6 months to live are fit for work".
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Feb 18, 2012 17:29
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Z-Magic posted:Especially when you consider they're eliminating crisis loans. Wait what? When did this come about?
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Feb 18, 2012 17:31
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ConanThe3rd posted:4214% APR / 52 Weeks in a year = 81% Yeah, as Hoops explained, it's compounded. Essentially, instead of rising at the same rate, it ends up rising in a sort of curve, slowly at first and then increasingly faster, just like when you double something repeatedly - which ends up being nastier in some ways, actually.
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Feb 18, 2012 17:31
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Giedroyc posted:I find it more disturbing that wonga with their 4214% apr(!!!!) are allowed to advertise on television. I find the new Ocean Finance advert disgusting: Hey, you guys are having trouble meeting all your bills, so just sign
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Feb 18, 2012 18:41
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Onion Vanguard posted:Wait what? When did this come about? Clauses 69-72 of the Welfare Reform Bill outline the abolition of the discretionary Social Fund, which includes Community Care Grants and Crisis Loans.
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Feb 18, 2012 19:20
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If anyone needs a laughcontinuity announcer on BBC 1 posted:There's a new paramedic in town as Danny Dyer guest stars in Casualty
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Feb 18, 2012 21:23
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QyKCHi453g This has to be the worst one. I fell about laughing at the guy with the petrol pump the first time I saw this.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:14
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ConanThe3rd posted:4214% APR / 52 Weeks in a year = 81% (1+x)n = 42.14 where x is, say, 0.42 for 42% is the equation you're looking for, not (1+x)*n = 42.14. Very different.
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Feb 19, 2012 11:55
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dos4gw posted:I hope they don't get reprimanded for it, I thought it was a great ad. It was a great episode to start off the series too. Does anyone know where all these gippos get their money from though? ShortLeroy posted:I don't think we're meant to ask that question as it implies they might be the proceeds of illegal activities. Then you'll be accused of being a racist just like Channel 4. What is the world coming too, when you're called racist just for being prejudiced against a racial group.
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Feb 19, 2012 11:56
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MrL_JaKiri posted:(1+x)n = 42.14 where x is, say, 0.42 for 42% is the equation you're looking for, not (1+x)*n = 42.14. Very different. I suddenly feel very unprepared for the real world.
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Feb 19, 2012 13:38
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Szmitten posted:I suddenly feel very unprepared for the real world. Babbys first econ lesson
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Feb 19, 2012 14:03
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MrL_JaKiri posted:What is the world coming too, when you're called racist just for being prejudiced against a racial group. For a start, they are not a 'race'. Yes, there are Romany gypsies etc but these are not. If by any chance they are of another, alternative 'race' then surely a failure to even notice that suggests a lack of any prejudice against them being on the basis of race. This is why, if I was to now declare to you that I was Arabic, I couldn't accuse you of being racist for your comments because you had no idea of my racial identity when you criticised me so it was surely irrelevant in your mind. That is the case in my earlier post as well. I criticise them for their lifestyle choice. I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that you are one of these 'cultural relativists' who thinks that it is perfectly acceptable for people in other cultures to have their own morals and standards different to our own. That is fine, which is why I did not criticise them for bringing their children up to compete in bare knuckle boxing matches etc, but it is not fine if they are stealing things from other people who did not choose to be part of their 'culture'. If they are allowed to impose their own standards on others then surely those others are allowed to complain about it. On BBC breakfast news recently, for example, there was a discussion about young people failing to appreciate the risks of cancer. They showed a clip of one of the gypsies in a sun bed, talking about cancer and how if one of her friends or family got it, she would probably 'just go once a week, rather than twice [as she was doing already]'. Is the BBC then also racist for the subsequent discussion about the dangers of her ignorance? Maybe you should moan at them too. If you do though, you might want to check your spelling first, because in the first sentence of your post you will find that it should be 'to' and not 'too'. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 19, 2012 14:21
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dos4gw posted:For a start, they are not a 'race'. Yes, there are Romany gypsies etc but these are not. If by any chance they are of another, alternative 'race' then surely a failure to even notice that suggests a lack of any prejudice against them being on the basis of race. This is why, if I was to now declare to you that I was Arabic, I couldn't accuse you of being racist for your comments because you had no idea of my racial identity when you criticised me so it was surely irrelevant in your mind. That is the case in my earlier post as well.  If you resort to pedantry to prove you're not a racist, it's maybe time to take another look at your views. The Supreme Court fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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Feb 19, 2012 14:34
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The Supreme Court posted:"I'm not a racist because they're not a real race" If you want to consider sticking to any semblance of an objective concept of a word to be pedantry then fine, but you've (deliberately?) misinterpreted my point. There are people on television who don't seem to have jobs, or who work in traditionally low paying professions, but who seemingly enjoy an expensive lifestyle. In that context, can one not speculate that those people might be stealing, or doing some other form of illegal activity, to make up the deficit between what they would logically earn and what they clearly do in fact have to spend? I fail to see how race has anything to do with that whatsoever. I also think that the latest bout of quantitative easing is a good thing, despite this meaning that many old people will lose out on their pensions. By your logic, I am 'racist' against old people, and if I then point out that the race of any of those old people is irrelevant, you would respond with 'ah so you don't think old people are a real race! You are resorting to pedantry now!'. Anyway, the program will continue to be shown and get good viewing figures, so I will get the last laugh and if you want to splutter and ascribe views and prejudices to me or anyone else that they don't have then go for it but it won't change a thing.
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Feb 19, 2012 14:53
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I think I have just seen a new low in advertising on espn. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XZ5MOB3nww Paddy Power sends a load of transgendered people to a horse racing day and then tries to guess which ones are female and which are transgendered. Choice quotes include "a dog no wait a man" and good luck with that Ian". How did that get past advertising standards? 
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Feb 19, 2012 15:05
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ASA doesn't vet adverts, but investigates any complaints recieved after they air. A few companies (Easyjet comes to mind) spam cheap, offensive adverts because their target audience doesn't care and it's cheap press.
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Feb 19, 2012 15:31
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madey posted:I think I have just seen a new low in advertising on espn. I'm still outraged from when Paddy Power filmed a blind guy kicking a cat, do these people never learn?
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dos4gw posted:If you want to consider sticking to any semblance of an objective concept of a word to be pedantry then fine, but you've (deliberately?) misinterpreted my point. Dude, the more you post the more you sound like a massive racist.
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Feb 19, 2012 15:34
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dos4gw posted:For a start, they are not a 'race'. Well the UN and the EU disagree with you for a start dos4gw posted:If you do though, you might want to check your spelling first, because in the first sentence of your post you will find that it should be 'to' and not 'too'. 
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Feb 19, 2012 16:12
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Flatscan posted:Dude, the more you post the more you sound like a massive racist.
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Feb 19, 2012 16:47
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I just thought the whole Gyspsy wedding series was smug, sneering, "ha ha look at the funny proles!" programming which is why I don't like it. The whole race thing never really occurred to me.
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Feb 19, 2012 17:04
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Is there any way I can ask about where they get their money from and not sound racist? I'm genuinely interested.
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Feb 19, 2012 17:10
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NaDy posted:Is there any way I can ask about where they get their money from and not sound racist? I'm genuinely interested. Channel 4 gave it to them, to bait people like dos4gw to come out of the racism closet.
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Feb 19, 2012 17:29
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NaDy posted:Is there any way I can ask about where they get their money from and not sound racist? I'm genuinely interested. You could just ask that and not immediately assume they nicked everything.
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Feb 19, 2012 17:40
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I had a mate who has family members in a traveling fair. They identify themselves as "Romany". Obviously the majority of their income comes from the fair itself but they boasted endlessly to me about all the stuff they stole or conned out of the "Joskins" ( The word they used to describe non-travellers) in the towns that their fair visited. I worked as a mechanic at a small mot station several years ago. A group of seemingly friendly travellers (these ones had that sort of rough irish accent) turned up one day wanting their Tarmac roller repaired. I think it needed a starter motor. We didn't have access to spares for this sort of machinery, so my boss said he would try to repair the old one. He was doing his best, but was struggling to get it working. The travellers started getting very impatient after a while and their demeanour very quickly turned from pleasant to downright loving nasty. One of them stood over him, shouting and giving him the odd smack round the head whilst the others stood guard and blocked all the exits. Eventually he managed to get it working and they left, obviously without paying. Two days later we arrived to the unit to find it had been broken into, most of our equipment gone and all the vending machines in the waiting area smashed open and emptied (they even took the coffee, soup, hot chocolate and the plastic cups!). So, my personal experience hasn't exactly been positive. I'm sure that the ones I've encountered are the exception to the rule and that most travellers are perfectly lovely, law abiding citizens...
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Feb 19, 2012 18:10
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Feb 19, 2012 19:19
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le chat posted:Here is my anecdote about how scummy those gyppos are... Yes, poor misunderstood travellers. A nasty, vicious stereotype created by us Joskins in order to oppress their happy, carefree lifestyles. Poor innocent victims. Their ways and customs are different to ours. A few bad apples blah blah blah... (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 19, 2012 19:40
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I remember when this thread was about TV, then those gyppos turned up and ruined it.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:24
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m0isty posted:Yes, poor misunderstood travellers. A nasty, vicious stereotype created by us Joskins in order to oppress their happy, carefree lifestyles. Poor innocent victims. Their ways and customs are different to ours. A few bad apples blah blah blah... Yes, precisely. Your argument ("I got robbed by a traveller, therefore all travellers are thieves") would not be acceptable to you (I assume) if the same argument was applied to, say, black men. So why is it here?
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Feb 19, 2012 20:28
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Why are we being called racist for portraying a race of people as thieving scum? It's political correctness gone mad.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:30
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Is there a way to report this whole thread because I want to report this whole thread. Stop loving up this thread.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:32
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To quote Charlie Brooker, humanity is horrible.
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Feb 19, 2012 20:33
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Yeah seriously its time for some of you to find an outlet for your thieving gypsy stories elsewhere it clearly doesn't really belong in this thread. Thanks for the radio recommendations a few pages back I am totally loving Down The Line, it travels so wonderfully close to plausibility I keep forgetting it isn't real. Reminds me a lot of Chris Morris' stuff. I had a go with the Armando Ianucci programme too, and while I love that man, starting from series 1 and listening to people from the 90s make Blair jokes is a bit weird. I may just skip ahead a couple of series.
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