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Man, I am forgetting all sorts of important details.  I should leave the theorycrafting to people who know what's what.
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Because she has red shoes and Mindfang also had red shoes. So did Vriska  Just sayin'.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:07
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Waffnuffly posted:That and... why would you age as a ghost? Seems more like being a ghost in this universe means you're stuck in a snapshot version of yourself when you died, but since you can still interact with other [dead] people, well, who knows. Suddenly 50% more Okay with Tavros being dead so he can finally be Peter Pan in his Never Never Land and never grow up. But also 50% more sad since never growing up and developing in a comic whose central theme is coming of age pretty much ensures a grim fate. Dolash fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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Feb 19, 2012 21:39
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So I let the updates sit and stew for a little while and just finished watching the animation. I don't remember where I've heard that song before (I swear I have), but it's loving awesome. I assume we've just met Vriska's ancestor? Actually, wait, hold on, when the ancestors played the game, they scratched their session, right? So: 1. Troll Ancestors play Sburb. They scratch their game and produce Scratched Alternia. 2. Troll Descendants play 3. Earth Kids play Sburb. They scratch their game and produce Scratched Earth. 4. Earth Guardians play Sburb. Presumably they successfully create Alternia in order to complete the loop.
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Feb 19, 2012 21:50
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Lady of the Beech posted:1. Troll Ancestors play Sburb. They scratch their game and produce Scratched Alternia. This would make Homestuck the biggest shaggy dog story and I really hope it doesn't happen.  Not everything has to be loops you know! Besides which I'm pretty sure a guy would have to be suicidally depressed to invest three years in that kind of nihilistic ouroboros.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:08
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Lady of the Beech posted:So I let the updates sit and stew for a little while and just finished watching the animation. The song is from the Strife! album, it's Time on My Side. We don't know who that is yet. -- Is anybody keeping track of the current unanswered questions? There's been such an information dump lately and so many plot points revealed at the change of act that I'm not sure what old unanswered questions are still outstanding.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:10
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Lady of the Beech posted:So I let the updates sit and stew for a little while and just finished watching the animation. Ugh, that would make a lot of sense, given that all four of the new characters are identical to / are the guardians of the original four. I've had a hard enough time keeping up with the temporal hijinks, and if it's a circle I'm not sure I'll ever get it.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:37
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Luegene Cards posted:Ugh, that would make a lot of sense, given that all four of the new characters are identical to / are the guardians of the original four. I've had a hard enough time keeping up with the temporal hijinks, and if it's a circle I'm not sure I'll ever get it. Yeah, the fact that the scratch kids are equivalent to the guardians before the scratch is part of the point. And I believe early on it is said that the troll ancestors played the game, then when they scratched their session they traded places with the descendants.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:47
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There's an awful lot of fanart of the trolls in '50s garb. Considering the current theme seems to be fan-stuff being made Whoever she is.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:52
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Another Mobius Double Reacharound wouldn't be the worse thing in the world, since it would mean LE would be effectively trapped. They just need another universe to escape to somewhere mixed in. I doubt that UU is an A1 Troll at the very least, so whatever universe she is in might be outside of this loop.
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Feb 19, 2012 22:56
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Nate RFB posted:Another Mobius Double Reacharound wouldn't be the worse thing in the world, since it would mean LE would be effectively trapped. They just need another universe to escape to somewhere mixed in. I doubt that UU is an A1 Troll at the very least, so whatever universe she is in might be outside of this loop. Yeah, I don't understand where UU fits into the equation. Maybe she doesn't. EDIT: Although UU is presumably outside of the universe loop, I assume that since she is able to communicate to the Scratched kids that there is still a way to travel there. Hopefully that's not how it works for Lord English. Lady of the Beech fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 19, 2012 |
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Feb 19, 2012 23:00
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Factory Factory posted:Is anybody keeping track of the current unanswered questions? There's been such an information dump lately and so many plot points revealed at the change of act that I'm not sure what old unanswered questions are still outstanding. I think the only things still remaining from pre-act 6 are the true purposes of the denizens, (though i have a feeling it will be answered next intermission) and how exactly Grandpa Harley got into the medium.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:09
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Jake falls so completely in love with maybe-Mindfang that his sole motivation becomes seeing her again; over the course of the story he discovers she is dead, and in fact died many eons before his species evolved. Now she is trapped in the afterlife and they can never be truly together. Enraged, Jake embarks on a mad quest to control space and time -- and succeeds, at the expense of his humanity, becoming the dreaded Lord English. And once again, everything happens because of (a version of) Vriska.
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Factory Factory posted:So, uh, what happened to your avatar dude?
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Feb 19, 2012 23:19
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 Never mind, I finished it. Like I said before, it's theme for Tavros' Land of Sand and Zephyr. It ends up switching moods a few times throughout, but I'm not sure it's a good thing? It just sorta happened.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:24
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Presumably, the beta Daves that died are still chilling in the afterlife, even though their session was scratched and they did not escape with the alpha kids. What if Mindfang was her game's Time hero? We know there was one, because they did scratch their session, after all. Or I guess it's even possible she just died before the end. Either way, I think this is Mindfang from the scratched session.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:30
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You know, if these are the pre-scratch trolls then that means that Hussie introduced/is going to introduce twelve new characters just to kill them off.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:34
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Nate RFB posted:Another Mobius Double Reacharound wouldn't be the worse thing in the world, since it would mean LE would be effectively trapped. They just need another universe to escape to somewhere mixed in. I doubt that UU is an A1 Troll at the very least, so whatever universe she is in might be outside of this loop. This isn't entirely unlikely, if only because of this quote. UU posted:UU: my prospit is an alternate version from yoUrs, in a completely different session qUite far afield of yoUr reality. Which, given how these statements tend to go, almost ensures the exact opposite will happen. But then again, I guess we don't have enough information either way.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:43
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tinaun posted:I think the only things still remaining from pre-act 6 are the true purposes of the denizens, (though i have a feeling it will be answered next intermission) and how exactly Grandpa Harley got into the medium.
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Hanks Lust Cafe posted:
I'm not him, but whatever happened, the result was hilarious. tinaun posted:I think the only things still remaining from pre-act 6 are the true purposes of the denizens, (though i have a feeling it will be answered next intermission) and how exactly Grandpa Harley got into the medium. Before the canon titles got released, I expected Jake to get Void. His shenanigans as Grandpa would thus never be explained. Since he didn't get that, the question seems a lot more likely to get explained now. I still have no actual idea.
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Feb 19, 2012 23:46
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I'm guessing that since pre-Scratch Alternia was peaceful, this new troll follows a version of the Sufferer's philosophy that wasn't pushed underground.
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tinaun posted:I think the only things still remaining from pre-act 6 are the true purposes of the denizens, (though i have a feeling it will be answered next intermission) and how exactly Grandpa Harley got into the medium.
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Feb 20, 2012 00:35
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Snollygoster posted:
...Why isn't this fan-art already?
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Feb 20, 2012 00:47
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Black Mage Knight posted:You know, if these are the pre-scratch trolls then that means that Hussie introduced/is going to introduce twelve new characters just to kill them off. But they are Already Dead! Which is a pretty efficient way to do things, really. Hussie kills so many characters that it saves time if new ones are already dead when they show up. NO LISTEN TO ME posted:
This is actually pretty cool. I really like it. It's almost too cool for Tavros' land.
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Oxxidation posted:TOO BAD. VRISKA TIME.
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VocalizePlayerDeath posted:My crazy theory is that this is UU`s brother.While UU has long horns and likes to write fanfics her brother has short or no horns and cosplays. Well, except that brothers tend to be male. Li'l Mindfang is not male.
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Feb 20, 2012 01:12
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Literally Sharks posted:Well, except that brothers tend to be male. Li'l Mindfang is not male. Cosplay
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I needed to show this to men and women of discerning taste: I was listening to "Watch the Throne" and happened to scroll past the Well Manicured Man's avatar, and noticed something. Try this: turn off the volume on [s] Prince of Heart: Rise Up and synch it up Kanye West and Jay-Z's "Niggas in Paris". This is easiest if you have a Mac, where you can hit the "replay" button on the flash and the "play" button on your keyboard simultaneously. e: new kid foolishness. Indie Rocktopus fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Apr 15, 2012 |
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Feb 20, 2012 01:14
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Honestly, I know she had a whole successful character arc and her story is mostly done at this point and stuff...but I wouldn't Vriska coming back. Every team needs the questionable ally who does something awesome at the last second to save the day, because she thought of something that the 100%-nice-guys would never think of. "One Last Double-Cross!!!"
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Don't dreams in the Furthest Ring transcend time? We don't know from what point in time her ghost is, so she could be dead already or not dead yet. I'm really counting on it being young Mindfang, because she's too different from Vriska. Lady of the Beech fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 20, 2012 |
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quote:
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Feb 20, 2012 01:38
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The Fucky posted:
If you made that, then I applaud you good sir. Actually, that too would make a hilarious avatar.
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Feb 20, 2012 01:47
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I did, and if someone eants to use it as an avatar, here: 
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Anyone getting confused with timeline shenanigans, a brief primer. Courtesy of Paradox Space, the timeline takes on the aspect of a loop, constantly repeating itself with only slight variations. Occasionally a timeline may take a sharp turn, but this turn itself is incorporated into the aspect of the loop, becoming another factor of repitition. The inhabitants of said variations can communicate with each other but only sparingly. The other rule of paradox space is that every action is its own cause, and as such no matter how many variations come to pass at the end, all timelines ultimately resolve into one cohesive narrative. For those of you who cannot grasp this shape, a primer has been provided. Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Feb 20, 2012 |
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Feb 20, 2012 02:05
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Ze Pollack posted:Anyone getting confused with timeline shenanigans, a brief primer. "Problem loading page" really is the best possible explanation for the Homestuck timeline (It actually is giving me 404s) E: Oh right, the Imageshack thing. Rehost it; that domain gets bungled by the filters on SA.
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The Fucky posted:I did, and if someone eants to use it as an avatar, here: I'm totally claiming this now that I have the money. What would be a good title for it? I was thinking: NO, HUSSIE, NO!
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Feb 20, 2012 02:55
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TOAST7312 posted:I'm totally claiming this now that I have the money. What would be a good title for it? I was thinking: AT: uHHH, nO DAD NO!
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Supercar Gautier posted:The short hair and the glasses shape make me think there's a bit of Terezi in the genetic mix, just like how the human relatives are combinations of each other. From what Hussie has said outside the comic, and a few little things like each Troll having an exact matchup with a particular ancestor, the ancestors having hints of their respective Hero of ___ powers and karkat's unique mutation, the Troll ancestors aren't ectobiological children/parents or anything of the Troll Kids, but are in fact exact genetic clones. As to why this new chick is wearing a Sufferer necklace, I just assume that in the pre-scratch timeline Karkat did something amazing and became a big deal because of it. Doc Scratch said that the kids were figures of legend even when they were in the previous timeline, it also matches up with Karkat's feeling that he always has that he is meant to be a great leader and a Big Deal.
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MrBims posted:AT: uHHH, nO DAD NO! I hadn't even thought of that. Done and done, and thanks to the both of you!
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Waffnuffly posted:"Problem loading page" really is the best possible explanation for the Homestuck timeline The lengths I'll go to for a quick joke.
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