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miss_chaos posted:Buses to Petone etc are much more bearable. And so much more reliable than the trains.
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Metlink are doing a shake-up of the bus routes around Wellington. I'm not hoping for much (other than an unjustified price hike and 3 years of inconvenience), but you can find some information here.
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Feb 21, 2012 01:24
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nzspambot posted:I still have nightmares about my times on the Britomart to Howick buses I remember trying to catch a bus out to see someone in Howick. It would have been quicker to bus into town (40 mins) and then bus to Howick. By the time I made it to Glen Innes I had gotten tired of the whole drat charade and walked home. I just drove in the end. But hey, I tried.
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I remember a few years ago when they changed the North Shore bus provider for the hundred thousandth time, the council or whichever body is in charge didn't bother publicising it on the Shore. People with those cards had to get new ones, so they set up temporary places around the Shore such as the Albany mall to do it, except that wasn't publicised either until after the fact, so in order to use public transport, they had to either pay cash, as in actual physical money when most people use EFTPOS these days, or drive in to town to get those cards and top them up.  Of course, there's also the brilliance of North Shore residents being asked to pitch in for the Britomart Station as well, which, as you can all imagine, was a very popular idea that the North Shore residents understanding towards and applauded, since we could now enjoy a train service that no longer leaves us out. I think we can all agree that our public transport situation is loving ridiculous. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Feb 21, 2012 |
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Feb 21, 2012 06:13
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Vagabundo posted:Of course, there's also the brilliance of North Shore residents being asked to pitch in for the Britomart Station as well, which, as you can all imagine, was a very popular idea that the North Shore residents understanding towards and applauded, since we could now enjoy a train service that no longer leaves us out. Not but you see rail will fix your problem despite not having access to rail because
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Stephen Fry today compared our lovely internet to having lovely roads; we wouldn't accept crap roads so we shouldn't accept crap internet. Uh buddy you need to drive around a bit more.
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Feb 21, 2012 07:23
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Meanwhile, Shearer's actively working with other opposition MPs. When looking at the questions asked in the Q&A sessions, it did look like there was a lot of double and triple teaming going on, with Labour, Green and NZ First MPs all taking turns asking the questions and Shearer's more or less confirmed it. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10786900 He was also spotted having dinner with Peters in Wellington by Cameron Slater so when asked about it, he used the opportunity to get a dig in on Key. quote:Mr Shearer confirmed he had eaten dinner with Mr Peters last Wednesday at Wellington's Trade Kitchen restaurant. He said it was an impromptu dinner after they appeared together on a TV3 show. Do more of that, David.
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Feb 21, 2012 07:28
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Dead Alice posted:Stephen Fry today compared our lovely internet to having lovely roads; we wouldn't accept crap roads so we shouldn't accept crap internet.
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Feb 21, 2012 07:30
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Dead Alice posted:Stephen Fry today compared our lovely internet to having lovely roads; we wouldn't accept crap roads so we shouldn't accept crap internet. I dunno, maybe he meant roads literally made out of poo poo.
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Feb 21, 2012 07:32
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Vagabundo posted:I dunno, maybe he meant roads literally made out of poo poo. Roads of National Shitnificance. Also, I'm glad Shearer is getting some press, and will be even happier of the guy has decided to spend his early days laying a foundation for decent opposition than just doing the headline hunting people seem to think he should.
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Vagabundo posted:I dunno, maybe he meant roads literally made out of poo poo. Just because he is gay doesn't mean there is a call for talk like that. I don't know what I'd think if Shearer actually sat down and behaved like a grown-up with a plan for the future; it's not something I'm accustomed to seeing in our politicians. e: It's like what two hands/fingers said about the NZTA and someone needing to basically spend a whole career fixing fuckups and not taking poo poo; people are too busy worrying about getting re-elected to do a good job for the long-term health of the country. Big Bad Beetleborg fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Feb 21, 2012 |
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I am getting so loving sick of headlines such as 'celebrity says this' as though it matters - it is hardly news that we have absolute dogshit internet but it's news because Stephen Fry said it? God drat I hate this country's media something fierce
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Two Finger posted:I am getting so loving sick of headlines such as 'celebrity says this' as though it matters - it is hardly news that we have absolute dogshit internet but it's news because Stephen Fry said it?  Please, tell us more.
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Two Finger posted:I am getting so loving sick of headlines such as 'celebrity says this' as though it matters - it is hardly news that we have absolute dogshit internet but it's news because Stephen Fry said it? It's news because when someone from the outside says it, it becomes harder to buy the spin of those who are trying to tell us that we're lucky to have what we've got.
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ClubmanGT posted:It's news because when someone from the outside says it, it becomes harder to buy the spin of those who are trying to tell us that we're lucky to have what we've got. Given Houston-style Grand Prix freeways aren't an option in NZ as they are in most other countries, the roads we do have are actually pretty good. The internet is poo poo however. Everyone knows it, but there's not a lot anyone can do until fibre is rolled out fully and Telecom stops being an arsehole (unlikely). Telecom got all in a lather about it, which indicates they feel defensive. Mind you, they are idiots. Sidenote: Glad I moved before the new bus system came in in Wellington. It will be a nightmare. I expect the "should all streets have fences to stop dumbasses getting hit by buses" theme to raise its ugly head yet again.
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miss_chaos posted:Given Houston-style Grand Prix freeways aren't an option in NZ as they are in most other countries, the roads we do have are actually pretty good. quote:Telecom got all in a lather about it, which indicates they feel defensive.
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TetsuoTW posted:The main roads are great. Everything else varies wildly. Wait what. Once you get south of the Waikato expressway or do something crazy like try to drive to Tauranga, they're congested productivity destroying lethal garbage. Mexico has better major highways than NZ does. You'd think the constant loss of life would be motivation enough to improve things, but people seem to cheerfully swallow the blame the driver argument (hint: drivers suck everywhere, good roads stop them from doing as much damage) Secondary roads are the same as the primary ones (this is the problem) and are pretty good when they're not busy. They get the camber right on corners making it possible to travel at a surprisingly decent speed and lack of traffic means overtaking happens. SH4 from W(h?)anganui is a great drive for example, much better than SH1. sanchez fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Feb 21, 2012 |
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TetsuoTW posted:The main roads are great. Everything else varies wildly. #1stworldproblems I'm hoping if the second pacific cable ever gets up and running it might have a trickle down affect. But yes telecom do love the rape, CID overages used to be $50 per gb
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Dead Alice posted:Stephen Fry today compared our lovely internet to having lovely roads; we wouldn't accept crap roads so we shouldn't accept crap internet. I just thought he was making a joke, like "you wouldn't accept crap roads (except you do.") Tongue in cheek like:)
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TetsuoTW posted:Oh totally, but I'd rather NZ deal with its first world problems rather than sit around and gradually slide lower and lower as a first world country. yes well good luck with that, since any most of NZ would rather stick their head in the sand than face the facts. Doubly so for any and all politicians
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nzspambot posted:#1stworldproblems Maybe good internet will trickle down like the wealth did when we sold all our poo poo in the late 80s?! AMIRITE?! HEY REST OF THE WORLD BUY OUR poo poo! FOR CHEAP!  Anyway, I don't really have a problem with internet in this country but I can't say I have been to a country that has good internet or lived in a rural area in New Zealand so maybe that's where the bad internet is? I will grant that we lagged behind for a long time around the early 2000s due to Telecom but speeds seem to be pretty good and caps are slowly going up recently I feel.
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Hey now, you don't get to complain till your roads have looked like this for at least a year; Actually even then you don't get to complain if you listen to Gerry Brownlee.
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Pararoid posted:Hey now, you don't get to complain till your roads have looked like this for at least a year; Real Kiwi's don't whinge bro. Brighter future.
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Best blog post of the year so far - DimPost suspects rash of negative Green stories appearing on Kiwiblog is indicative of internal National polling shows leak to Greens. http://dimpost.wordpress.com/2012/02/22/the-tell/ I miss the old days of Kiwiblog, when it was more racist and had more pictures of tits.
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Red_Fred posted:Anyway, I don't really have a problem with internet in this country but I can't say I have been to a country that has good internet or lived in a rural area in New Zealand so maybe that's where the bad internet is? Don't want to be mean and I'm not picking on you but this attitude is basically NewZealander.txt right here (what we have is fine because I've never actually encountered high-quality things in my life due to being in New Zealand). quote:I will grant that we lagged behind for a long time around the early 2000s due to Telecom but speeds seem to be pretty good and caps are slowly going up recently I feel. wikipedia about nz internet posted:Download speeds range from 256 kbit/s to a theoretical maximum of 24 Mbit/s depending on the distance from the exchange, quality of the copper telephone line and equipment used in the exchange. Most households achieve an average speed between 1 Mbit/s and 10 Mbit/s per line. Er, no, that's dreadful. In Japan I'm paying NZ$66 a month for uncapped 200Mbps (with 1Gbps over IPv6, not that there's anything except youtube on v6 yet). And it's not a density thing, the same deal's available in the howling wastelands of western Japan too. It's a government subsidized a fibre network thing. And it's kind of working - Japan is actually starting to get something of an internet tech startup industry, which lots of people thought would never happen. Is the 'Ultra fast broadband' thing actually moving forward? When, concretely, can an NZ home user expect to pay less than a hundred dollars a month for a ~100mbit connection with a reasonable (let's say, 25GB+) cap? (I will grudgingly admit to caps being necessary due to the geographical isolation factor, although I don't actually believe that so much). It's a first-world whine for sure but New Zealand could actually do quite well out of the Internet (reasonably educated populace, produces some very good software engineers (  ), native english, low wages), but the kind of people who can make that happen hate living somewhere with terrible connections. Admittedly they probably also hate having all their software engineers quit after they've saved enough to buy a one-way plane ticket to somewhere where IT wages are 3x-5x higher, but unlike a fibre rollout I'm not sure a government can realistically fix that in the short term.
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  Two button mice, with cords, in 2008. Bet they have balls in them too.
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dazjw posted:Don't want to be mean and I'm not picking on you but this attitude is basically NewZealander.txt right here (what we have is fine because I've never actually encountered high-quality things in my life due to being in New Zealand). Yeah I thought I would get called out for that hence the question mark. Part of my point though is that even with a 5 Mbit/s connection webpages load instantly, you can stream HD videos and download pretty fast. The majority of the population do those first two more than the last so why would they require more than 24 Mbit/s connections? I understand as time goes on the internet gets more and more bloated with crap so you need a faster connection just to load pages but at this point it's not too bad. Although anything under 5Mbit/s is pretty bad. Also you have to understand that rural parts of Japan are still parts of Japan which is a country that is far bigger than New Zealand so they have a much bigger tax base to pay for this kind of thing.
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I think the internet is reasonable now too, data caps aside (they are awful). Cell phone pricing on the other hand is terrible and surely must discourage firms from providing smartphones to all employees.
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It's great when you see articles about infectious disease rates getting higher and higher in the last decades, being run at the same time as articles about health-service cuts, and yet no journalism about the relationship between the two. It's even better when John Key says he's concerned about the first issue, and then goes and does the second. I'm still so pissed about the election, goddamn NZ 
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Midget Fist posted:It's great when you see articles about infectious disease rates getting higher and higher in the last decades, being run at the same time as articles about health-service cuts, and yet no journalism about the relationship between the two. I'm still interested on how an Appendicitis is "infectious diseases" but anyway. Yes place me in the pissed off area. So over both sides and the middle being as useless as tits on a bull. Mind you just as bad in Aussie. Also at news at 11; the Herald twists a story to suit it's self . Who would have seen that.
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nzspambot posted:I'm still interested on how an Appendicitis is "infectious diseases" but anyway. Hah yeah saw that, I think I was getting so mad about the overall article that I forgot to follow-up with an email:)
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Midget Fist posted:Hah yeah saw that, I think I was getting so mad about the overall article that I forgot to follow-up with an email:) Yes I agree it is not a great look but I guess we need to look at why these are the top. However the thing I'd also argue that you can't just blame the MOH/The Government for this. Which is also a bug on mine; people are very quick to blame the Government of the time yet very slow to stop and think "wait maybe I could try and make this better" If you take those figures they are from 1998-2008 ergo it is Labour's fault. Which is a poor excuse of a side to take. However yes Government's do need to bear part of the blame but IMO not 100% Case in point as I mentioned before, seems there is more to the story of the Lady who wanted to go out looking from Johns because WINZ wouldn't help her.
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nzspambot posted:Yes I agree it is not a great look but I guess we need to look at why these are the top. However the thing I'd also argue that you can't just blame the MOH/The Government for this. Every article I have seen says that the study reflects the last 20 years ie what has happened since Rogernomics. Where are you getting 1998 from?
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nzspambot posted:Yes I agree it is not a great look but I guess we need to look at why these are the top. However the thing I'd also argue that you can't just blame the MOH/The Government for this. It's true one can't blame the current government for this, but one can blame the political philosophy that caused it and which is currently being represented by the National party. Also one can get pissed at the actions of the current government in response to infection rates/figures which are somewhat contrary to what is needed. E.Grammar Project M.A.M.I.L. fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Every article I have seen says that the study reflects the last 20 years ie what has happened since Rogernomics. Where are you getting 1998 from? this article http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10786823 quote:A study by the University of Otago, Wellington shows hospitalisations from infectious diseases have increased by 51 per cent from 1998 to 2008 and quote:
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nzspambot posted:this article I'll be charitable and say that that's probably a typo. The study covers 1989 onward, not 1998. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(11)61780-7/fulltext
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Ratios and Tendency posted:I'll be charitable and say that that's probably a typo. The study covers 1989 onward, not 1998. The Herald Apologies I shall never quote them again  Edit: Thanks for the link as well, interesting reading quote:
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Rosemary McLeod posted:The transgender community, says the Californian, has set upon him/her nastily for what it may feel is disloyalty. He/she is photographed sitting up in bed with the new number three, looking like a rather plain woman, which in fact let's not beat about the bush is what he/she is. / / /  http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/columnists/rosemary-mcleod/6464285/Why-he-she-ego-trippers-should-not-have-kids Thanks for that, Dom Post.
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