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kimbo305 posted:I'm assuming that's why TG ran it with the tires it had on -- because the agreement with Ferrari was to use those and only those tires.
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Ecstatic posted:All other automotive manufacturers realize this and make even their halo cars drivable by bankers, otherwise you simply get a reputation for making cars that kill CEO's.
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Ecstatic posted:I don't think it can be done with todays high level of performance without being flatout dangerous. SSC and Henessey are both making ridiculous 1200 hp 1200 kg twin turbo V8's that can't be driven in any any form of anger on a public road, the thing kicks out at 250 kph+. Jerod Shelby says is next car will be developed at the Ring and I guarantee you they will total a car in the process. And yet McLaren can do it with much less hp and then if you want to spend up grab a Veyron, that seems t be more than just a bit capable of restraining huge hp - Henessey and SSC are more about OMG look at my dick 1200 horsepowaaaaas! Lack of applied engineering nous and too much brute force. BTW, how exactly do you think most Italian supercar makers got to be the legends they are? That would be killing CEO's at huge speeds getting their dicks sucked by supermodels. That's the drat point of a Supercar, to go through the Pearly Gates backwards on fire screaming "HOLY gently caress THAT WAS AWESOME!!!" Frankly there's too much climate control and not enough out of control on fire /road head in modern Supercars. Besides, one less banking CEO, who gives a gently caress about them? ..... Annnnd thinking about it it appears Henessey and SSC are the ones actually making proper supercars now. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Wonder how many supermodels fit in an SSC?
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Cat Terrist posted:Henessey and SSC are more about OMG look at my dick 1200 horsepowaaaaas!
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Cat Terrist posted:on fire [...] Supercars. Ferrari seems to still be quite good at this one.
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The strobing lights on the slow-mo FF was awesome, reminded me of the strobes that a lot of drift cars have - completely pointless, but just look cool.
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Stealth Like posted:Ferrari seems to still be quite good at this one. Pretty sure TG did a good 30 second bit on Gallardos on fire too. They're probably still very exciting, just a bit more reliable now.
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InitialDave posted:Is Henessey the one with the really bad reputation for ripping people off on tuning work for Vipers etc? Yes. But then again Italian Supercar manufacturers also have a fine history of more than just a bit of shady poo poo / Mafia involvement
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VolumeOverTalent posted:The strobing lights on the slow-mo FF was awesome, reminded me of the strobes that a lot of drift cars have - completely pointless, but just look cool.
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neckbeard posted:For over $100K it's not hard to see why they're [Fisker] running into problems financially. If that type of car/system could be deployed for somewhere in the $50-80K range, that'd be great, though it would mean they'd probably have to comprimise on all the organic materials and/or do some platform sharing and parts bin materials.
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Next week's Top Gear US looks like it should be awesome. Looks like they have to take a notoriously dangerous car, 'fix' what made it dangerous, and enter it in a demo derby. Looks like the cars end up being a Pinto, a Corvair, and a Suzuki Samurai, which was shown rolling violently.
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Cat Terrist posted:And yet McLaren can do it with much less hp and then if you want to spend up grab a Veyron, that seems t be more than just a bit capable of restraining huge hp - Henessey and SSC are more about OMG look at my dick 1200 horsepowaaaaas! Lack of applied engineering nous and too much brute force. Agree on the dick waving point from SSC & Henessey, but the Veyron has 4WD, weighs almost two and a half tonnes and has a host of traction/stability aids (air brakes etc). I assume on the Mclaren front you were talking about the F1 GTR, which was just crashed by Mr Bean a guy who has little bit of driving experience.... You won't see that from Porsche/Ferrari/Mclaren etc anymore, I mean look at the V8 atom, it's already gotten the moniker as "hard as hell to drive".
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Ecstatic posted:Agree on the dick waving point from SSC & Henessey, but the Veyron has 4WD, weighs almost two and a half tonnes and has a host of traction/stability aids (air brakes etc). I assume on the Mclaren front you were talking about the F1 GTR, which was just crashed by Mr Bean a guy who has little bit of driving experience.... Right, so with the Veyron see comment about engineering and then reference LACK of engineering to Hennessey / SSC, it is completely possible to engineer stupid hp cars and be easy to drive at the same time - you dont even need to resort to ridulous extremes. The F1 also is also well known to actually be quite drivable and impeccably engineered - Mr Atkinson was.... shall we say .... driving enthusiastically. This in no way goes against the reputation the F1 has for being relatively easy to drive despite is performance. The Atom however IS by all accounts a difficult vehicle to master in any form. That has much more to do with laws of physics and it's size. It however is no Supercar and not a CEO killer - it's as close to a true open wheeler race car as you can get away with on public road. It is NOT a car for supermodels. It is a car for .... well... people like me who go on and on and on about the banalities of steering, suspension and the evils of heavy thuggish V8's in what should be small precise sports cars but on the otherhand can steer a car far better than 99% of the population could dream of. So - Supercars are for going off the road backwards in flames, Atoms are for flannel wearing dweebs to bore friends and relatives with. Supercars can be engineered well. Legend Supercars usually are very flawed indeed!
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Cat Terrist posted:The F1 also is also well known to actually be quite drivable
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You Am I posted:That's due to the LED daylight running lights which always strobe/pulse when filmed. Yeah I know, I've noticed it before, it just wasn't until I saw them on the FF while it was a bit sideways that I made the connection.
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Nomenclature posted:Not really. The F1 was notorious for high speed instability without the rear wing installed. I think I recall a top speed shootout for some major magazine (probably Road & Track or Car & Driver) where Michael Andretti came back in and refused to drive the F1 without the wing, and it only did ~210 MPH with the wing installed. I have never heard of said issue, all instances I've read or heard recalls that the F1 was a very good car to drive either in the city or giving it hell and certainly no where near the handful to master of it's high speed contemporaries like the F40
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Ecstatic posted:I assume on the Mclaren front you were talking about the F1 GTR, which was just crashed by Be honest, would you trust this man to drive an F1? 
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CanOfMDAmp posted:It's from a technology called Pulse Width Modulation, or PWM. It's a method for "dimming" LED lights. Muffinpox posted:LEDs pulse to control their brightness, it shows up even in non-slow mo. Cakefool posted:Why were the lights on the ff flashing? It wasn't just the slo-mo shots or I would have thought it was pwm brightness controls. Did anyone read what I wrote? 
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Cakefool posted:Did anyone read what I wrote? It's just hazard lights when accelerating or braking past a certain rate right? Not some fancy science dick waving explanation.
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ColHannibal posted:It's just hazard lights when accelerating or braking past a certain rate right? Not some fancy science dick waving explanation. The automatic hazards, or flashing of brake lights, under heavy braking is a thing with new cars, but that's not what you're seeing here.
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Cat Terrist posted:I have never heard of said issue, all instances I've read or heard recalls that the F1 was a very good car to drive either in the city or giving it hell and certainly no where near the handful to master of it's high speed contemporaries like the F40 Sorry I don't have links to back this up either, but I remember reading that there was/is a range of speed where it's terrifying to drive. Like at anything up to 200mph and close to top (230-240mph) it was fine, but at 210-220 it's violent. Edit: apparently a suspension/tyre issue... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=226933 Canary Yellow fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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InitialDave posted:No. Cakefool is correct. I suck at optimizing/compressing gifs so i'll only link it http://i.imgur.com/2F4TP.gif
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Sormus posted:I agree, if it was hazard flashing when hard breaking they would be more evenly timed and not as rapid. Also not sure if they should flash when "parked": That's the standard "oh gently caress I'm a supercar stuck in the now" blink, actually.
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Cakefool posted:Did anyone read what I wrote? Eh, I thought it just sounded weird without the first half. ColHannibal posted:It's just hazard lights when accelerating or braking past a certain rate right? Not some fancy science dick waving explanation. Nope, in this case it's an optical illusion i.e. the exact same fancy 30th century Dickwave science that they use to make cars on tv move forwards while their wheels spin backwards. Sormus posted:I agree, if it was hazard flashing when hard breaking they would be more evenly timed and not as rapid. Also not sure if they should flash when "parked": Yea, if it was hazards both the right and left headlight would shut off at the same time and remain off for a little bit. Also I think hazards are required to be yellow blinkers up front. Muffinpox fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Feb 22, 2012 |
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So... that Fisker, is real. As in, you can buy it. TODAY. There's one at my local Volvo dealer. fAk Gara posted:Ferrari have forgotten what made the F40 great. When you drove an F40, it was YOU doing it, not you suggesting to a computer that you'd maybe like to change gear now if that's okay with the committee. Real human driven cars are soon to be extinct. ... It saddens me.
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Nerobro posted:So... that Fisker, is real. As in, you can buy it. TODAY. There's one at my local Volvo dealer. f I actually saw a Fisker on the road at UC Berkeley campus last week, it makes a really cool noise just tooling along. It is also beautiful, pictures don't do it justice. For some reason I thought or had more power but there wasn't any chance to open it up in Berkeley. 
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CornHolio posted:You guys should really be watching Top Gear US. This is hilarious. I can't believe i'm enjoying this better than the original. Yep, sad to say but I think the US version is actually a better show. The guests actually care about cars rather than being some random celeb pushing their poo poo movie, the scripted bits are less obviously scripted, and I don't have to suffer Clarkson and Hammond being giant loving cunts who need to be first against the wall when the revolution comes.
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Dr JonboyG posted:I don't have to suffer Clarkson and Hammond being giant loving cunts who need to be first against the wall when the revolution comes. At what point in time do you stop watching?
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ZippySLC posted:At what point in time do you stop watching? He only watches the parts that only include James May, a la https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QypmXbwD1k
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ZippySLC posted:At what point in time do you stop watching? When my wife stops watching.
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echoplex posted:The Fenton thing was legitimately funny. I'm still laughing at this. And anything Brian Johnson does makes me so happy. He looked sooooo out of place in the Fisker.
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That shot with the Boss drifting around that huge bend on TGUS was glorious. Tanner can be a douche but the dude can certainly drive.
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Killbot posted:That shot with the Boss drifting around that huge bend on TGUS was glorious. Tanner can be a douche but the dude can certainly drive. He's like the surprisingly old bastard lovechild of James May and a Stig.
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They really need to get someone else to be the Stig. It's quite clearly Tanner. It's a little short dude driving the two mustangs in the feature. And then Tanner conveniently loses the top speed challenge to match Stig's time by not even doing a lap.
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Or they should eliminate the Stig and just have Tanner set the times.
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Killbot posted:That shot with the Boss drifting around that huge bend on TGUS was glorious. Tanner can be a douche but the dude can certainly drive. Unf yes. GIF anybody?
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