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Yeah I think the extent of most peoples' experience with "handling" is whether or not the vehicle is at risk of rolling over.
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I drive an old SUV (a Blazer) around at work and there's also a couple trucks (B-series and Tacos) and a low sedan (Volvo 940), and gently caress, they all feel a lot different just trying to drive around the side of a building at 10 miles an hour.
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Feb 20, 2012 20:22
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PT6A posted:Everyone will notice when a car handles better, though, right? I don't think you have to know anything about a car's mechanicals to appreciate a car that handles well over one that doesn't. That has less to do with a car being FWD and more with the fact that cheap cars sold to the average person aren't design to have sensational handling.
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Feb 20, 2012 21:24
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Dick Burglar posted:Yeah I think the extent of most peoples' experience with "handling" is whether or not the vehicle is at risk of rolling over. I agree completely, very rarely am I behind a car that takes turns without slamming on their brakes and creeping around them. I used to think this was because my car genuinely handles better than most, but even driving around in an old corolla makes it all too apparent that everyone is completely useless when it comes to taking corners at anything approaching "fun" speeds. Why would car companies waste their time making most cars handle well if the average driver won't notice. I love how the frsbrs is completely designed to be a fun enthusiasts car, a direct gently caress you to the beige camry trend that toyota themselves seem to have started. I cannot wait to scare the poo poo out of my local toyota/scion/subaru salesman on a test drive!
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Feb 21, 2012 04:05
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Scion Dealer: Good luck scarring this fella!
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Feb 21, 2012 04:53
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Piano posted:Good luck scarring this fella! O.o I don't think that was his intention, I mean how good is the crash protection on this thing? Edit: toyota uk website says GT86 from £24,995 with 17"s, full pricing to be confirmed. That seems reasonable. cakesmith handyman fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Feb 21, 2012 |
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Feb 21, 2012 08:26
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Cakefool posted:O.o I don't think that was his intention, I mean how good is the crash protection on this thing? 
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Feb 21, 2012 09:13
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So this car is going to make people drive like morons? I can't wait for the you tube videos. RIP Talking Cool Dog.
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Feb 21, 2012 13:41
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Cakefool posted:Edit: toyota uk website says GT86 from £24,995 with 17"s, full pricing to be confirmed. That seems reasonable. This does not bode well for being a sub 40k AUD car.
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Feb 21, 2012 14:11
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Cakefool posted:O.o I don't think that was his intention, I mean how good is the crash protection on this thing? Yeah the options list is pretty decent also for that base price. Although looks like we wont be getting a stripper version at all, which isnt suprising I guess.
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Feb 21, 2012 14:22
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Elephanthead posted:So this car is going to make people drive like morons? I can't wait for the you tube videos. RIP Talking Cool Dog. No, people who drive like morons are going to be attracted to this car. (yes, this car will reward hooning behaviour)
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Feb 21, 2012 19:20
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Cakefool posted:No, people who drive like morons are going to be attracted to this car. Downside: high insurance costs Upside: increased sales volume from idiots replacing their wrecked cars Far better they blow through new-production vehicles instead of destroying nice used older cars. I'm sure the number of older VWs is already reaching critical levels after the twin plagues of krauting and hellaflush.
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Feb 21, 2012 20:06
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I can't wait until I can get my first FA20 and ECU to slot into my '97 Impreza. Remember kids, crash backwards, or with the side of the car that the ECU doesn't sit in.
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Feb 21, 2012 20:49
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Judging from the accidents on gencoupe.com, I think there will be plenty of totalled Toyobarus with extensive rear end damage from their tofu delivery accidents. Though, why not put an turbo EJ2x motor in it?
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Feb 21, 2012 21:19
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Every one of these cars will have rear quarter panel damage. Just like every 240sx does.
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Feb 21, 2012 21:36
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I can't wait until I can get my first FA20 and ECU to slot into my '97 Impreza. A RWD FA20 Impreza coupe would be a hoot.
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Feb 21, 2012 22:03
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Voltage posted:I love how the frsbrs is completely designed to be a fun enthusiasts car, a direct gently caress you to the beige camry trend that toyota themselves seem to have started. I cannot wait to scare the poo poo out of my local toyota/scion/subaru salesman on a test drive! I demand that the FR-S / BRZ now be referred to as the "Fuss-bus".
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Feb 22, 2012 02:51
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Wouldn't it be "furrs-burrs"?
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Feb 22, 2012 03:08
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That reminds me, Japanese people have a really hard time doing the "br" sound. Bride seats? No sir. Buuriido seats.
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Dick Burglar posted:Wouldn't it be "furrs-burrs"? Yes, but fuss-bus sounds a lot more fun. DORIFTU FUSS-BUS-U
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Feb 22, 2012 03:21
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Dave Inc. posted:I demand that the FR-S / BRZ now be referred to as the "Fuss-bus". FR-S BRZ looks like Furious Breeze.
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Feb 22, 2012 04:09
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Cream_Filling posted:FR-S BRZ looks like Furious Breeze. 
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Feb 22, 2012 04:34
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I got to see a couple of these at the Chicago Auto Show and I'm in love. Just wish they'd had one to sit in. Definitely going for a test drive when they hit the streets. They kinda remind me of the first car I ever bought (an 05 Tiburon) only more awesome in every way. Sleeker, lighter, and rwd.
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The Casualty posted:I got to see a couple of these at the Chicago Auto Show and I'm in love. Just wish they'd had one to sit in. Definitely going for a test drive when they hit the streets. They kinda remind me of the first car I ever bought (an 05 Tiburon) only more awesome in every way. Sleeker, lighter, and rwd. Tiberon was a FWD? No wonder they got replaced with the gencoupe. BRZ dealer preorder portal has been pushed back to March 1st. Still no reliable info on FR-S rollout.
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Rabble posted:Tiberon was a FWD? No wonder they got replaced with the gencoupe. Thought they got replaced by the Veloster, the Tib got sold alongside the Genesis for a couple years up here but that may have been 2008 overstock.
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Feb 22, 2012 20:03
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I think the GenCoupe was called the "spiritual" successor to the Tiburon, while the Veloster was the actual successor.
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Feb 22, 2012 20:36
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oRenj9 posted:Though, why not put an turbo EJ2x motor in it? I mean, other than the fact it's very slow.
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some guy on the ft86 forums has sorta confirmed aus pricing at 35k for the base model and 45k for the high spec model. high spec includes alacantara, 3 spoke steering wheel, LED DRLs, alternative 17s, nav and other stuff i forgot to read. he was told this by the dealer with which he placed his order. the spec has been confirmed by someone else who also ordered but wasnt told the price. putting the high spec near WRX entry territory isnt bad but some of those options in the higher spec model are stuff thats nice to have. fake edit: options for the high spec model quote:Leather/Alcantra inserts Real edit: another aussie user was contacted via email. quote:Some L1 features as per current info :- Premium 3 Spoke steering wheel, 16” alloys, Halogen headlights, Dual Exhaust, 7 SRS Airbags, Cruise control, australian release is 'late march or early june' which im guessing is BS. Laserface fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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Feb 22, 2012 23:36
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That's awesome, based on the amount of lube that Cat Terrist claims you need to apply to buy a car down under, it looks like the top model FR-S likely not exceed 27,000  dollars.
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Base model has all I want, can't say there is anything on the L2 list that makes me think twice about which one to go for
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cruise control, yay!
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You Am I posted:Base model has all I want, can't say there is anything on the L2 list that makes me think twice about which one to go for I dunno, I kinda need those sweet sweet LED lights so people know its brand new car. also dualzone AC would be nice since the girlfriend enjoys blizzards while I enjoy fresh air. and yeah cruise control. oh god cruise control.
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I'm not sure those L1 and L2 open levels are going to apply to the US on the BRZ. I remember awhile back a Subaru rep stated that even the base model (Premium) in the US will have HIDs and Navigation. I'm betting 16" wheels won't be on any trim level in the US either for the BRZ (but probably likely for the Scion.)
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Nice, cruise as standard. Sick of getting gypped on basic poo poo. Only other thing I'd want from L2 is Smart Entry, but that sounds more trouble than it's worth. 35k for the base model is very reasonable. Was realistically expecting 40k+
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I could do without most options, except I have really gotten used to steering wheel audio/cruise controls, what a great feature! Most likely getting an ultra-base model scion, and spending money I saved on r-comps/slicks and track safety mods, and maybe a nice new helmet. Aww yeah.
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I really really like this car and I'm considering replacing my 3.8 gencoupe with a BRZ, but the lack of power is making me think twice. I understand that it's really light and handling and the "driving experience" is what it's supposed to be about, but man I do like me some horses. Is it realistic to expect significant aftermarket HP gains that won't explode the engine, considering the compression ratio? By significant I mean in the range of say 275 or so.
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Meatsicle posted:Is it realistic to expect significant aftermarket HP gains that won't explode the engine, considering the compression ratio? By significant I mean in the range of say 275 or so.
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Lowclock posted:Unless you want to add a turbo or supercharger, I wouldn't plan on it. There's only so much you can do with 2 liters.
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Maybe gain like 20hp with an intake, exhaust, and tune, provided good ones show up relatively quickly. That's still being pretty optimistic I think.
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