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Kidney Stone: Dec 28, 2008; The worst pain ever!

Cakefool posted:

That does look pretty good, however it's French so I'm not buying one. Never again, drat electrical problems!

Yep, no French car for me as well. We had one (a Peugeot 206) which one day, after less than 110000km, decided to crack a cylinder. It was going to way to expensive to get it fixed, so we ended up with a Rover 25

# ? Feb 21, 2012 09:24

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OXBALLS DOT COM: Sep 11, 2005; by FactsAreUseless; Young Orc

Left Ventricle posted:

Chevy did it twice, and it was horrible to look at both times. Corsica and Malibu. I'm having a hard time coming up with a picture of the Corsica though. The Malibu Maxx is just so awkward-looking.

If you're going to make a chunkity-assed car with a liftback, why not go whole hog and make a proper wagon? No-one on earth is going to buy a Malibu Maxx for looks, so you might a well haul as many boxes as possible.

# ? Feb 21, 2012 20:10

Throatwarbler: Nov 17, 2008; by vyelkin

So this is the new ES.

I always thought the old ES was a great looking car, no wonder they sell so many of them. This new one looks pretty good too, the new Lexus corporate face works nicely and the interior is a big step ahead.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 03:22

OXBALLS DOT COM: Sep 11, 2005; by FactsAreUseless; Young Orc

The hourglass shield grille looks awkward as hell as well as terribly derivative of all the other shield grilles from 5 years ago in a knockoff sort of way.

Seriously, that thing is mega-gross.

The ES is a tarted up Camry. It's good that they're finally getting their own styling and that greenhouse looks nice but the new Lexus corporate face just ruins it.

Oh, also, I don't like the big hood panel cut line right across the nose.

OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Feb 22, 2012

# ? Feb 22, 2012 03:46

Left Ventricle: Feb 24, 2006; Right aorta

Cream_Filling posted:

If you're going to make a chunkity-assed car with a liftback, why not go whole hog and make a proper wagon? No-one on earth is going to buy a Malibu Maxx for looks, so you might a well haul as many boxes as possible.

Americans hate wagons, you know. Enough that, rather than just import and rebadge the existing Vectra wagon (which looked pretty good, I gotta say), GM went with what looks like a slightly modified version of the Holden ZC Vectra hatch (which also looks good), and expected it to sell. I don't think it did all that well.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 04:54

adorai: Nov 2, 2002; 10/27/04 Never forget; Grimey Drawer

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

One of the consistent criticisms of the RSX-S and Civic Si 2.0 was that There Arent Enough Torks and now that they put in a KA24 or whatever to get some more torque now They Killed Its Soul. I get the complaints but it's like a no-win situation for Honda.

How about they bring back and modernize the h series motors? In 2001 you could get 200hp and 160ft/lbs of torque out of 2.2 liters, with a redline over 7k. I am sure they can squeeze another 10% out of that with the lessons learned from the k series.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 05:37

dissss: Nov 10, 2007; I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

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adorai posted:

How about they bring back and modernize the h series motors? In 2001 you could get 200hp and 160ft/lbs of torque out of 2.2 liters, with a redline over 7k. I am sure they can squeeze another 10% out of that with the lessons learned from the k series.

Why would this be better than the K?

# ? Feb 22, 2012 06:01

Throatwarbler: Nov 17, 2008; by vyelkin

adorai posted:

How about they bring back and modernize the h series motors? In 2001 you could get 200hp and 160ft/lbs of torque out of 2.2 liters, with a redline over 7k. I am sure they can squeeze another 10% out of that with the lessons learned from the k series.

That's like saying GM should bring back the old Chevy 350 because I'm sure they can squeeze more power out of it with the lessons learned from the LS7? The K replaced the H, it's newer, bring the H back with the lessons learned from the K would just produce another K.

EDIT: Except it would have a timing belt I guess?

# ? Feb 22, 2012 06:26

PeterWeller: Apr 21, 2003; I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

Throatwarbler posted:

EDIT: Except it would have a timing belt I guess?

And it would spin in the opposite direction.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 16:17

sanchez: Feb 26, 2003

adorai posted:

How about they bring back and modernize the h series motors? In 2001 you could get 200hp and 160ft/lbs of torque out of 2.2 liters, with a redline over 7k. I am sure they can squeeze another 10% out of that with the lessons learned from the k series.

Wasn't that 1991? The H22A was a great engine, the BB4 Prelude I had with one was one of the best cars I've owned. It was quick and absolutely reliable.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:33

Omerta: Feb 19, 2007; I thought short arms were good for benching

Cream_Filling posted:

The hourglass shield grille looks awkward as hell as well as terribly derivative of all the other shield grilles from 5 years ago in a knockoff sort of way.

Seriously, that thing is mega-gross.

The ES is a tarted up Camry. It's good that they're finally getting their own styling and that greenhouse looks nice but the new Lexus corporate face just ruins it.

Oh, also, I don't like the big hood panel cut line right across the nose.

Agreed. The grill looks like a Nissan Maxima five years ago. Plus Audi fairy lights in the front and derivative A4 tail lights. And those wheels are just heinous.

I have a soft spot in my heart for Lexus, but the only car I'd even remotely consider buying that they put out recently is the GS.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 21:27

DEUCE SLUICE: Feb 6, 2004; I dreamt I was an old dog, stuck in a honeypot. It was horrifying.

Left Ventricle posted:

Chevy did it twice, and it was horrible to look at both times. Corsica and Malibu. I'm having a hard time coming up with a picture of the Corsica though. The Malibu Maxx is just so awkward-looking.

Chevy actually did it three times.

Along with:

and even

I personally prefer wagons, but having a liftback is still a shitload more useful than a trunk.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 21:50

Guinness: Sep 15, 2004

Speaking of, saw a Veloster on the road yesterday. Not a bad looking little... thing. As far as sub-20k economy cars go, at least.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 21:52

davebo: Nov 15, 2006; Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito; College Slice

Speaking of Chevy liftbacks, I don't understand why they didn't do that with the new Camaro. The trunk is pretty useless not because of the space inside but the actual opening.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 21:56

rscott: Dec 10, 2009

I kind of have a feeling that if they made it a liftback the chassis would flex like mad.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:02

Guinness: Sep 15, 2004

davebo posted:

Speaking of Chevy liftbacks, I don't understand why they didn't do that with the new Camaro. The trunk is pretty useless not because of the space inside but the actual opening.

Holy LOL. That's terrible. I'm pretty sure my NA Miata had a more usable trunk than that.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:04

HairyNipple!: Dec 31, 2004; hello i am fast cheap awesome

Throatwarbler posted:

So this is the new ES.

I always thought the old ES was a great looking car, no wonder they sell so many of them. This new one looks pretty good too, the new Lexus corporate face works nicely and the interior is a big step ahead.

I think it looks Chinese.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:22

sanchez: Feb 26, 2003

HairyNipple! posted:

I think it looks Chinese.

It's telling that Chinese is the new Korean, Hyundai is moving up in the world.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:23

cakesmith handyman: Jul 22, 2007; Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Kidney Stone posted:

Yep, no French car for me as well. We had one (a Peugeot 206) which one day, after less than 110000km, decided to crack a cylinder. It was going to way to expensive to get it fixed, so we ended up with a Rover 25

I (my wife) has a 206 wagon, perfect car apart from the electrical gremlins & poor interior fit & feel, a workmate had a 307 wagon, new turbo at 37k, new engine wiring loom at 42k, new turbo at 52k, new gearbox at 46k, new clutch at 47k, new turbo at 55k.

...yeah.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:51

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davebo posted:

Speaking of Chevy liftbacks, I don't understand why they didn't do that with the new Camaro. The trunk is pretty useless not because of the space inside but the actual opening.

Pfffff hahaha. I thought my Mustang was bad. Good lord.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 22:52

Loan Dusty Road: Feb 27, 2007

Crossfire.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 23:35

grover: Jan 23, 2002; PEW PEW PEW

davebo posted:

Speaking of Chevy liftbacks, I don't understand why they didn't do that with the new Camaro. The trunk is pretty useless not because of the space inside but the actual opening.

man, it's pretty sad when your trunk is less useable than the trunk on a Lamborghini.

At least it looks like you could get few bags of groceries into that trunk, which is more than you can say for the Solstice...

# ? Feb 23, 2012 02:00

travisray2004: Dec 2, 2004; SuprMan

Throatwarbler posted:

So this is the new ES.

Ah, the CRZ sedan.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 04:06

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

davebo posted:

Speaking of Chevy liftbacks, I don't understand why they didn't do that with the new Camaro. The trunk is pretty useless not because of the space inside but the actual opening.

Well, every part of the Camaro I've ever dealt with has seemed absolutely miserable and half-assed, why not the trunk too?

It looks good, and I tried so hard to like it, but it's just about the most awful car I've ever driven (EDIT: for the price, obviously; there are worse cars out there, to be sure, but not many worse values)

# ? Feb 23, 2012 07:22

echoplex: Mar 5, 2008; Stainless Style

Hashal posted:

Crossfire.

My inner 6-year old wants to pretend that that's some kind of awesome escape hatch.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 12:19

Evanauto: Jul 27, 2007; For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God.

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Hashal posted:

Crossfire.

Vehicle Goatse.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 14:07

rscott: Dec 10, 2009

Evanauto posted:

Vehicle Goatse.

Nope, that would be the Buick Rendezvous.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 17:46

Phy: Jun 27, 2008; Fun Shoe

rscott posted:

Nope, that would be the Buick Rendezvous.

And here I thought the Rendezvous was supposed to be the good-looking version of the Aztek.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 19:36

oRenj9: Aug 3, 2004; Who loves oRenj soda?!?; College Slice

rscott posted:

Nope, that would be the Buick Rendezvous.

There is no way to unsee that now...

# ? Feb 23, 2012 21:04

Evanauto: Jul 27, 2007; For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God.

Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed among cocktails.
Pray for me now, and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.
Amen.

rscott posted:

Nope, that would be the Buick Rendezvous.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 22:10

JingleBells: Jan 7, 2007; Oh what fun it is to see the Harriers win away!

Chris Harris is liveblogging the launch of the new BMW M550d, three turbos, 381hp, 465lb ft :awesome:

Sadly it's not coming to the UK

# ? Feb 24, 2012 11:33

eames: May 9, 2009

JingleBells posted:

Chris Harris is liveblogging the launch of the new BMW M550d, three turbos, 381hp, 465lb ft

Oh wow, they also showed a sneak peak of the new 135i in the slides. Over 300 hp and looks surprisingly decent in the tiny picture:

//edit: So the thing is called M135i, will be revealed in Geneva and there�s a whole gallery of it here: here.
Twin-turbo 3.0-liter, 326 PS, 450nm. 6-gear manual or 7-gear double-clutch.

Still I�m not a fan of the new 1 series front � headlights in particular � but the M-bumper helps a lot.

//edit2: aaand it�ll be available as a 4WD xDrive model� weird.

eames fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Feb 24, 2012

# ? Feb 24, 2012 11:47

rscott: Dec 10, 2009

M135i looks like a slightly less ridiculous clownshoe.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 15:52

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# ? Feb 24, 2012 17:49

Fayez Butts: Aug 24, 2006

That looks fantastic.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:13

grover: Jan 23, 2002; PEW PEW PEW

JingleBells posted:

Chris Harris is liveblogging the launch of the new BMW M550d, three turbos, 381hp, 465lb ft

Sadly it's not coming to the UK

Shame it's 4300lbs

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:23

davebo: Nov 15, 2006; Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito; College Slice

A5H posted:

Is that the Mazda smiley face grille I see?

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:37

Neptr: Mar 1, 2011

A5H posted:

It looks like a fish.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 18:51

Mr. Pither: May 28, 2006; Hello, friends!

I love me some grand tourers. At first blush those photos make it look almost too long, but Autoblog says it's shorter and lower than the 599. I'd wondered what the FF would look like as a normal coupe, and that seems to be about what this is. All in all it looks plenty cool, so I suppose I would deign to drive it.

# ? Feb 24, 2012 21:07

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Marvin K. Mooney: Jan 2, 2008; poop ship
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A5H posted:

Ugh, the new Ferrari grill is not going in the right direction. Everything else sounds awesome though, especially the V12 that redlines at 8700 holy poo poo

edit: how can that be an improvement over this? (face-wise)

Marvin K. Mooney fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Feb 24, 2012

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