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carticket: Jun 28, 2005; white and gold.

It sounded like they changed touchscreen drivers. I had a bitch of a time hitting links in the ICS browser, so I wonder if this will make it better.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 04:38

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# ? May 16, 2024 15:10

deong: Jun 13, 2001; I'll see you in heck!

Mr. Powers posted:

It sounded like they changed touchscreen drivers. I had a bitch of a time hitting links in the ICS browser, so I wonder if this will make it better.

It feels better to me. Not as good as webos, but better than alpha.6. It seems more accurate when using the default dpi, but that doesn't look as nice...

# ? Feb 22, 2012 05:21

Fid: Dec 2, 2010; 'Bout time this town had
a new Sheriff

That was quick, CM9 Alpha 2 is out now for Touchpad with NETFLIX!!!!

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18843-releasealpha2-cyanogenmod-9-touchpad/

I think that was really the last feature I was waiting on. I don't see myself ever using the camera on this thing

# ? Feb 22, 2012 06:46

Skeezy: Jul 3, 2007

AOKP doesn't have a "hide voicemail icon" thing yet right? I have that ghost voicemail issue on my EVO 4G and I know that CM7 let me at least hide the icon.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 08:50

asecondduck: Feb 18, 2011; by Nyc_Tattoo

Popping in again with tales of hiding the Galaxy Nexus' navbar permanently. I'm not sure if it was remapping the keys, the latest Franco Kernel, or Woot Watcher, but my phone locked up a few times last night with the screen off. I'll have to do some more testing to determine the true cause but for now it looks like the feature isn't quite ready for prime time (and perhaps never will).

I don't particularly mind the navbar but on the other hand MY PIXELS :spergin:

One thing to note is that with the navbar gone the keyboard falls almost too low on the phone, though people with larger hands/longer thumbs may have less of an issue.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 12:53

Auron: Jan 10, 2002; <img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Kreeblah posted:

Me, too. I've been avoiding the ICS alphas until they looked at least semi-stable, so this is the first one I've used, but it's pretty awesome so far.

You should have hopped on with 0.5, honestly its been extremely stable I only had one SOD problem but that was fixed with 0.6. The stability has always been there...just not all the features

edit: almost missed the post about alpha 2. rejoice!

Auron fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Feb 22, 2012

# ? Feb 22, 2012 13:09

carticket: Jun 28, 2005; white and gold.

Fid posted:

That was quick, CM9 Alpha 2 is out now for Touchpad with NETFLIX!!!!

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/18843-releasealpha2-cyanogenmod-9-touchpad/

I think that was really the last feature I was waiting on. I don't see myself ever using the camera on this thing

woah. Glad I didn't get around to loading alpha 1. So, coming from alpha 0.6, I can download this, reboot into CWM, back up everything as it is and then apply?

# ? Feb 22, 2012 14:04

deong: Jun 13, 2001; I'll see you in heck!

Mr. Powers posted:

woah. Glad I didn't get around to loading alpha 1. So, coming from alpha 0.6, I can download this, reboot into CWM, back up everything as it is and then apply?

Yup, that should be fine.
Take your precautions though, run a nandroid/tb, and while flashing, wipe your cache partition.

I believe someone else had issues with market not loading after upgrading from one of the alphas, but reflashing the newest gapps (v11 I think?) resolved that.

Upgrading through the alpha's has been pretty smooth since like alpha0.2.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 16:15

asecondduck: Feb 18, 2011; by Nyc_Tattoo

lelandjs posted:

Popping in again with tales of hiding the Galaxy Nexus' navbar permanently. I'm not sure if it was remapping the keys, the latest Franco Kernel, or Woot Watcher, but my phone locked up a few times last night with the screen off. I'll have to do some more testing to determine the true cause but for now it looks like the feature isn't quite ready for prime time (and perhaps never will).

I don't particularly mind the navbar but on the other hand MY PIXELS

One thing to note is that with the navbar gone the keyboard falls almost too low on the phone, though people with larger hands/longer thumbs may have less of an issue.

Well looks like Franco is to blame. I've had such good luck with his kernel, too.

Psyched to hear that Netflix is working on the Touchpad since my GF made me promise not to flash CM9 onto her tablet until it was.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:09

Frozen Peach: Aug 25, 2004; garbage man from a garbage can

Transformer Prime just got the Unlock Bootloader app released today. Of course it voids your warranty, and apparently makes it so you can't get official OS updates from ASUS anymore, but I'm looking forward to seeing CM9 and other fan made builds getting made for it.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:23

deong: Jun 13, 2001; I'll see you in heck!

lelandjs posted:

Well looks like Franco is to blame. I've had such good luck with his kernel, too.

Psyched to hear that Netflix is working on the Touchpad since my GF made me promise not to flash CM9 onto her tablet until it was.

At this point, I can't think of anything that works in CM7 that does not work in CM9. Maybe others can chime in.. I'm not a heavy tablet users, mostly web/SA. I don't really watch movies or anything. But from my use, I can't see any reason not to go to CM9. Its obvious that ICS was made for tablets, where Gingerbread wasn't. The touchpad really is better with the ICS UI.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:24

Codiusprime: Mar 17, 2006

lelandjs posted:

Well looks like Franco is to blame. I've had such good luck with his kernel, too.

Psyched to hear that Netflix is working on the Touchpad since my GF made me promise not to flash CM9 onto her tablet until it was.

Oh poo poo, I just installed Franco's new kernel, will see if I have any issues.

Edit: Meant to mention this when you first started talking about it but I found LMT Launcher to be fantastic when paired with no bar at the bottom. Super responsive and if you change the color scheme to ICS it actually seems to fit the OS.

Codiusprime fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Feb 22, 2012

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:27

Helter Skelter: Feb 10, 2004; BEARD OF HAVOC

Upgraded my Touchpad from CM7a3 to CM9a2 last night (was waiting on Netflix support) and holy crap is ICS a huge improvement. It feels a bit like WebOS knocked up Gingerbread and they had a beautiful child together.

The only apps I've found so far that don't work are Words With Friends and JuicePlotter, but neither of those is at all critical.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 17:32

SlayVus: Jul 10, 2009; Grimey Drawer

I have a droid x that is rooted and runs a custom rom Rubix. I want to go back to the original rom, but my sd card got messed up and I lost my system save.

How can I go back? Also, I've seen a lot of talk about ics roms on phones, can I get ics on my phone?

# ? Feb 22, 2012 18:19

Dr. Despair: Nov 4, 2009; 39 perfect posts with each roll.

SlayVus posted:

I have a droid x that is rooted and runs a custom rom Rubix. I want to go back to the original rom, but my sd card got messed up and I lost my system save.

How can I go back? Also, I've seen a lot of talk about ics roms on phones, can I get ics on my phone?

You can SBF to restore the factory image. If you google droid x sbf you should be able to find a guide with the files you need pretty easy.

# ? Feb 22, 2012 19:39

asecondduck: Feb 18, 2011; by Nyc_Tattoo

Codiusprime posted:

Oh poo poo, I just installed Franco's new kernel, will see if I have any issues.

Edit: Meant to mention this when you first started talking about it but I found LMT Launcher to be fantastic when paired with no bar at the bottom. Super responsive and if you change the color scheme to ICS it actually seems to fit the OS.

Just downloaded LMT and drat its pretty fast. Thanks for the recommendation! Now all I need is a hack to stop the menu button from vanishing from the action bars... there's a kinda mediocre way around it where you launch the app before hiding the navbar but if Android kicks it out of memory it runs the check when the app resumes and the action bar menu vanishes again. Oh well.

And after a few reboots last night and this morning the phone has stopped locking up! Not sure that was causing it (probably the kernel) but I'm glad it's done.

[Edit: Holy poo poo you guys ICS on this thing is amazing. Keyboard is a little large, though. Already installed SwitchMe because I'll be damned if she's the only one who gets to use it (technically it was mine to begin with anyway).

This is so drat cool.]

asecondduck fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Feb 22, 2012

# ? Feb 22, 2012 21:05

madkapitolist: Feb 5, 2006

Are there any ICS roms for the HTC Desire HD?

# ? Feb 23, 2012 00:52

Tunga: May 7, 2004; Grimey Drawer

madkapitolist posted:

Are there any ICS roms for the HTC Desire HD?

There's this thing on XDA but whether it's usable is anyone's guess.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 01:11

Alucard: Mar 11, 2002; Pillbug

Helter Skelter posted:

Upgraded my Touchpad from CM7a3 to CM9a2 last night (was waiting on Netflix support) and holy crap is ICS a huge improvement. It feels a bit like WebOS knocked up Gingerbread and they had a beautiful child together.

The only apps I've found so far that don't work are Words With Friends and JuicePlotter, but neither of those is at all critical.

My favorite part about the whole thing is that I didn't have to reinstall EVERY GODDAMNED APP like I normally do when I flash a new rom on my EVO 4G

# ? Feb 23, 2012 02:44

Codiusprime: Mar 17, 2006

My Gnex is deliciously smooth with Franco's new 1.65 GHz kernel. I highly recommend it if you are looking for some extra speed. It's kind of ridiculous.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 03:48

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Codiusprime posted:

My Gnex is deliciously smooth with Franco's new 1.65 GHz kernel. I highly recommend it if you are looking for some extra speed. It's kind of ridiculous.

Do you really need it? I was all gung-ho about rooting and unlocking mine, but it turns out stock works perfectly fine. Who would have thought?

# ? Feb 23, 2012 04:14

Maker Of Shoes: Sep 4, 2006; AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Do you really need it? I was all gung-ho about rooting and unlocking mine, but it turns out stock works perfectly fine. Who would have thought?

And you call yourself an Android user? :frogout:

# ? Feb 23, 2012 04:18

butt dickus: Jul 7, 2007; top ten juiced up coaches
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Maker Of Shoes posted:

And you call yourself an Android user?

The first thing I did when I got it home was unlock, root and flash the 4.0.4 OTA :smugdroid:

. I'm considering relocking and removing root because I haven't had any issues at all with stock. The only thing I want is the ability to set actions for swipe up (drawer) and down (notifications) on the home screen, but that will have to be added by a launcher anyway.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 04:46

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

Tell me more about upgrading the radio on your phone. I hear it can get you better reception, and I've moved to an area where I tend to have a weaker signal on my phone. I have a T-Mobile HTC G2 for reference, rooted and running CM7.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 05:12

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

Second question. I installed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775007 email.apk mod to avoid allowing my company's exchange server to make itself admin on my phone.

Having my email and calendar sync to my phone is basically essential to do my job, and they won't give me a company phone. This means I have to sync it to my own phone, but I am not giving them access to wipe my whole drat phone. If they'd just asked for email wipe access I'd hand that over gladly.

Anyway, when running this version of email.apk I can't open my corporate account just by tapping it, but I can by longpressing and choosing "open", or by tapping the "folder" icon and choosing the folder I want from the list of folders in my inbox. I also do seem to be able to get new emails form the account.

Is this the only quirky behavior I can expect? I also noticed that my calendar appointments all changed colors and the .apk seemed to revert to the original email client after the phone was rebooted.

Any other ways to avoid having a mandatory exchange administrator activated on my phone?

# ? Feb 23, 2012 05:52

godzirraRAWR: Sep 11, 2003; godzirra will trample your scrotum

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Second question. I installed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775007 email.apk mod to avoid allowing my company's exchange server to make itself admin on my phone.

Having my email and calendar sync to my phone is basically essential to do my job, and they won't give me a company phone. This means I have to sync it to my own phone, but I am not giving them access to wipe my whole drat phone. If they'd just asked for email wipe access I'd hand that over gladly.

Anyway, when running this version of email.apk I can't open my corporate account just by tapping it, but I can by longpressing and choosing "open", or by tapping the "folder" icon and choosing the folder I want from the list of folders in my inbox. I also do seem to be able to get new emails form the account.

Is this the only quirky behavior I can expect? I also noticed that my calendar appointments all changed colors and the .apk seemed to revert to the original email client after the phone was rebooted.

Any other ways to avoid having a mandatory exchange administrator activated on my phone?

I use an app called "Enhanced Email" from the amazon market and it lets me bypass all of that security crap. It seems like a fork of the stock client with some handy changes.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 06:30

MC Hawking: Apr 27, 2004; by VideoGames; Fun Shoe

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

Tell me more about upgrading the radio on your phone. I hear it can get you better reception, and I've moved to an area where I tend to have a weaker signal on my phone. I have a T-Mobile HTC G2 for reference, rooted and running CM7.

As an owner of a G2, let me assure you that it won't really help much but if you must know the information you seek is located here.

It's really pretty simple and hard to gently caress up if you can follow directions. I'm using the 4.12_m radio and it hasn't shown any real improvement in reception or battery life. Unless you're absolutely convinced that this will help reception, don't bother as occasionally I've heard certain radios can cause weird issues. I can only vouch for the radio I am using. I think people update for E-peen cred points.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 06:46

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

godzirraRAWR posted:

I use an app called "Enhanced Email" from the amazon market and it lets me bypass all of that security crap. It seems like a fork of the stock client with some handy changes.

Will it still sync my exchange calendar to the regular android calendar?

# ? Feb 23, 2012 14:53

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

The first thing I did when I got it home was unlock, root and flash the 4.0.4 OTA . I'm considering relocking and removing root because I haven't had any issues at all with stock. The only thing I want is the ability to set actions for swipe up (drawer) and down (notifications) on the home screen, but that will have to be added by a launcher anyway.

If you want a custom launcher with the widgets in the app drawer you'll need to be rooted.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 17:35

Vaporware: May 22, 2004; Still not here yet.

In the interests of becoming better at maintaining an android device, I have decided to use ADB and learn the basics. Starting with my ATT Galaxy Note, I've taken the path of least modification and replaced the stock recovery with the rooted recovery image rather than the rooted kernal (kernel?).

I know this doesn't provide root when I'm actually booted up, so I would like to install superuser manually via ADB, but I can't find a walkthrough that's general. They're all device specific "do this, this, and this, ur rooted lol" rather than directed at learning the methods.

I've so far managed to
boot into recovery,
adb shell and get root (#),
push the su.bin into system/bin,
then reboot,
and install SU from the market.

the superuser app tries to update the "legacy" (v2.3.4) su.bin, but then force closes. I'm guessing I forgot/didn't know how to chmod su.bin so it could be overwritten? Am I approaching this totally wrong?

# ? Feb 23, 2012 17:41

butt dickus: Jul 7, 2007; top ten juiced up coaches
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LastInLine posted:

If you want a custom launcher with the widgets in the app drawer you'll need to be rooted.

Or you can flash Nova Launcher without being rooted.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 18:52

big mean giraffe: Dec 13, 2003; Eat Shit and Die; Lipstick Apathy

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

Or you can flash Nova Launcher without being rooted.

Nova Launcher thread on XDA:

Due to the Android permission system, widgets-in-drawer will only work if your device is rooted and you enable Settings > Behavior > Root Helper.

:downs:

# ? Feb 23, 2012 18:56

butt dickus: Jul 7, 2007; top ten juiced up coaches
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big mean giraffe posted:

Nova Launcher thread on XDA:

Due to the Android permission system, widgets-in-drawer will only work if your device is rooted and you enable Settings > Behavior > Root Helper.

When you flash it in recovery, it installs as a system application and you don't have to turn on the root helper. It's never asked me for superuser permission and I have widgets in the drawer.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 19:10

Codiusprime: Mar 17, 2006

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

When you flash it in recovery, it installs as a system application and you don't have to turn on the root helper. It's never asked me for superuser permission and I have widgets in the drawer.

I doubt you could flash it in stock recovery though I'm not sure.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 19:15

butt dickus: Jul 7, 2007; top ten juiced up coaches
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Codiusprime posted:

I doubt you could flash it in stock recovery though I'm not sure.

You don't have to root to use a different recovery.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 19:16

ExcessBLarg!: Sep 1, 2001

Vaporware posted:

I know this doesn't provide root when I'm actually booted up, so I would like to install superuser manually via ADB, but I can't find a walkthrough that's general.

The latest version of Superuser is posted here, specifically Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip.

That zip file is actually a testkey signed update.zip, which means you can "flash it" through a custom recovery to install both the su binary and Superuser.apk to /system. It's really quite safe and simple and there's no particular reason to do it manually unless you really want to. With the flashed version, you don't have to install Superuser from the Market, and frankly, it doesn't really change that often to be concerned about updates.

As for manually installing it, the basic idea is to mount /system read-write, push su to /system/xbin (or /system/bin), chown/chmod su, push Superuser.apk to /system/app, and remount /system read-only. For example:

code:

adb shell 'mount -wo remount foo /system'
adb push system/bin/su /system/xbin/
adb shell 'chown root.root /system/xbin/su'
adb shell 'chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su'
adb push system/app/Superuser.apk /system/app/
adb shell 'mount -ro remount foo /system'

Which is almost exactly what flashing the Superuser zip does.

Vaporware posted:

the superuser app tries to update the "legacy" (v2.3.4) su.bin, but then force closes. I'm guessing I forgot/didn't know how to chmod su.bin so it could be overwritten?

If you're serious about using adb to "better maintain" you're device, this is a good opportunity to stop guessing why you're getting a force close and check the logs to figure out what actually happened. To do that, run

code:

adb logcat -v time

Then try updating the binary again, and right about when you get the force-close you should see an exception from Superuser in the long with a big stack trace afterwards. Usually the top-most line says what went wrong, but it's probably something like "Read-only file system" or maybe a program "not found" or something like that.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 19:28

Gyshall: Feb 24, 2009; Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.

Codiusprime posted:

My Gnex is deliciously smooth with Franco's new 1.65 GHz kernel. I highly recommend it if you are looking for some extra speed. It's kind of ridiculous.

Got a link? I love this loving phone, coming from a Droid X, it is tweaking heaven.

I'm running AOKP right now and am pretty happy with it.

SlayVus posted:

I have a droid x that is rooted and runs a custom rom Rubix. I want to go back to the original rom, but my sd card got messed up and I lost my system save.

How can I go back? Also, I've seen a lot of talk about ics roms on phones, can I get ics on my phone?

Check out Rootzwiki which has a good guide on putting the phone back to stock. I tried ICS (Encounter ICS) on that thing, but the battery life was absolute poo poo. I'd recommend sticking to one of the Gingerbread CM7 roms or MIUI.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 20:35

Vaporware: May 22, 2004; Still not here yet.

ExcessBLarg! posted:

If you're serious about using adb to "better maintain" you're device, this is a good opportunity to stop guessing why you're getting a force close and check the logs to figure out what actually happened. To do that, run
code:
adb logcat -v time
Then try updating the binary again, and right about when you get the force-close you should see an exception from Superuser in the long with a big stack trace afterwards. Usually the top-most line says what went wrong, but it's probably something like "Read-only file system" or maybe a program "not found" or something like that.

Thanks, super informative! I'm going to load logcat right now to see what you're talking about.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 20:43

Codiusprime: Mar 17, 2006

Gyshall posted:

Got a link? I love this loving phone, coming from a Droid X, it is tweaking heaven.

I'm running AOKP right now and am pretty happy with it.

Check out Rootzwiki which has a good guide on putting the phone back to stock. I tried ICS (Encounter ICS) on that thing, but the battery life was absolute poo poo. I'd recommend sticking to one of the Gingerbread CM7 roms or MIUI.

No problem, I'll try to remember to grab one tonight.

We were just talking about Nova and it just went into version 1.0, it is now on the market, which is probably why the root option is in there. Four bucks for the paid version but it's more than worth it for me as I've gotten a ton of use out of it since like .2 or something.

# ? Feb 23, 2012 20:50

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# ? May 16, 2024 15:10

explosivo: May 23, 2004; Fueled by Satan

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of an issue rooting my friend's Droid 2. I installed ClockworkMod Recovery and after wiping I installed the .zip but I got stuck on the reboot at the Motorola logo. Now the Recovery menu I get is the one that has the Android logo and a ! beside it and I have to hit both volume keys to bring up a recovery screen that isn't the full thing, my only options are reboot, apply update, and wipe data/cache.

When I try to install the rom (I tried CM 7 and the MIUI rom) I get an error that says

code:

E:failed to verify whole-file signature
E:signature verification failed
Installation aborted

So basically, I can't get to the full recovery screen and otherwise it just hangs at the Motorola logo. ADB does recognize the phone when I plug it in at the Motorola logo. What can I do to unfuck this phone?

Edit: Oh god damnit. I chose the reboot option for the first time and it rebooted into the regular bootloader. It's been one of those days with this thing :ughh:

explosivo fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Feb 23, 2012

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