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Tony Danza Claus posted:I was pretty much counting on that. The whole series will end up like The Dark Tower where there's a warning towards the end of A Dream of Spring telling you not to read any further. So that I don't have to read it, what was the warning towards the end of the Dark Tower series about?
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It said 'don't read any further you'll regret it'
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Feb 23, 2012 00:49
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And unlike the warning at the end of Black House, the "you'll regret it" for Dark Tower is accurate. I kept reading, and I did regret it.
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Feb 23, 2012 01:17
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:And unlike the warning at the end of Black House, the "you'll regret it" for Dark Tower is accurate. I kept reading, and I did regret it. I haven't read the books yet (because they were completely spoiled) but yeah. Essentially it says "don't read further" and if you do it's basically ten million times worse than an "it was all a dream" ending. A most impressive gently caress you to the fans.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:06
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I heard those books ended lovely (which I would expect from modern Stephen King) but someone spoil me on why they're so lovely.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:13
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I liked the ending. Roland gets to the top of the Tower, opens a door, and finds himself at the start of the series and the desert, only this time he has the Horn of Eld that he dropped the last time he went around. Seriously after thinking about it I had no problem. The last chunk of book leading up to that really loving sucked though.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:16
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Arya gets her sight back.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:42
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Dead Man Posting posted:Arya gets her sight back. Jaime gets his Brienne-boner back.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:43
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I only know about the ending to that series from reading about it on the web, but I think that's a really cool ending. Was there something lacking in King's execution? Because I think it's actually pretty clever. I mean, I can see why dedicated fans would be butthurt, but... it still sounds pretty cool? I dunno. I'll probably never read the series, so maybe someone who read the whole thing can tell me why I'm dumb.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:45
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Maytag posted:I liked the ending. I haven't read the series but considering King went all "stories and in particular me are the most important things in the universe" I have no problem with that ending at all. Journey not the destination played straighter than Bruce Willis in Die Hard. Sure.
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Feb 23, 2012 03:47
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I meant "what was the warning warning us about" more than the actual wording, but I guess that was answered anyway.
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Edit: The warning was warning us that we would not like the ending, that it wouldn't satisfy. This is after the stupid loving climax I'm about to outline. A big part of the series is how Roland just keeps getting dumped on and all tore up and he keeps trudging on. Also that existence is a wheel that just keeps on rolling. So that ending fits perfectly. What was absolutely lovely was the final confrontation outside the Tower- the head evil dude called the Crimson King has been built up in not just this series but other books King wrote, and holy poo poo there he is this fight is going to be awesome oh wait that weird kid from Insomnia just draws a picture of the Crimson King and then erases it the end. I didn't have much of a problem with King writing himself in a few books earlier, though the story kinda stumbled there for awhile (seriously Harry Potter references you stupid gently caress) but it really got back on track, some super emotional things happened, yes this is the book I've been waiting for since I first read The Gunslinger when I was 13 and then what a limp dick ending. Before the epilogue I mean. He really loving blew it. He built a pretty elaborate world with all these cross-references and an evil that kinda spreads across most of his works then this kid erases it. Also EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Edit edit: A lot of people DID have a problem with the epilogue and the door at the top of the Tower, because they didn't understand what the series was about and were also extremely let down with the climax. Edit: You can read some of the Coda/Epilogue here. I heard more people bitch about this than the stupid climax. Maytag fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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Feb 23, 2012 03:58
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Ah ok, so the part people were disappointed with was the climax, not the part after the warning?
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Feb 23, 2012 04:04
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More of both, from what I've seen. You ever here people mocking that line about the man in black fleeing across the desert and the gunslinger following? There's a reason why,
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Feb 23, 2012 04:06
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Did you read the series because Roland was the warg but he had to use doors on a beach. Also the first three books were absolutely loving amazing. I also enjoyed the fourth but there's mixed feelings on that one.
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Feb 23, 2012 04:14
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So basically the perfect ending to the story would be King actually dying in that car accident to a man who in photos around the time of the accident has extremely pronounced red-eye.
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Feb 23, 2012 04:27
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The "erasing the Crimson King" was dumb, but I personally liked Roland walking into the Tower and the door closing behind him as an ending. That was the journey, he got there, that's cool. I didn't really need to know what happened to him after, especially not that every room in the Tower was scenes from buddy's life until he gets to the top and it's a Door into himself and he's been doing this for who knows how loving long only now he has a horn and that's supposed to make it all better because a poem says so. For me, the "extra" ending was just stupid and frustrating and actively detracted from the story. The extra ending of Black House, on the other hand, is a bittersweet reward for ol' Jacky boy. God pounds his nails, wolf!
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So I spent some time getting caught up on this thread, which I hadn't checked since October. It was exactly what I expected. The fact that we've got 
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Nilbop posted:More of both, from what I've seen. nobody mocks that line because its an awesome loving line. I really liked the Dark Tower as a whole, but book 6 kinda sucked (Mia sucked) but that might have been the one with the Lovecraftian nightmare in the underground tunnel which ruled. Its cool how the car accident changed how King looked at his life and the series, but one had to wonder what it would have ended up like otherwise. I'm a sucker for "ka is a wheel" and neverending time loop endings, and thematically it was cool. Final battle sucked, so did the penultimate battle, but ultimately I was quite satisfied by the series. The epilogue wasnt as bad as Harry Potter's, so... I haven'y actually read much King, (such a meandering writer) but I read 3/4 of The Stand before it fell in a puddle and the first half of The Stand is amazing.
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Feb 23, 2012 06:28
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bigmcgaffney posted:The epilogue wasnt as bad as Harry Potter's, so... Thread idea/dare: write an epilogue for ASOIAF in the style of Harry Potter's
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Feb 23, 2012 07:05
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 This is quite possibly the worst casting the show has done yet (Xaro Xhoan Daxos). "A bald man with a jewel in his nose from Qarth" >>> "Generic black man." Azure_Horizon fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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Feb 23, 2012 07:07
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Azure_Horizon posted:
Seriously I thought the Qartheen were supposed to all be milky white.
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Feb 23, 2012 07:20
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Oakland Martini posted:Seriously I thought the Qartheen were supposed to all be milky white. I guarantee you if they had cast white people in this role people would be posting "Why are there no black people in this Afro-Euroasian analog continent"
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Feb 23, 2012 07:46
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Azure_Horizon posted:
What? Really? The boy-loving, milk-pale, CRYING MERCHANT is some generic butch looking black guy? 
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Feb 23, 2012 07:49
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Nilbop posted:I guarantee you if they had cast white people in this role people would be posting "Why are there no black people in this Afro-Euroasian analog continent" Well at least they've fulfilled the "quota", whatever the hell that is.
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Ravus posted:What? Really? The boy-loving, milk-pale, CRYING MERCHANT is some generic butch looking black guy? Praytell, nuncle, what does an non-generic black guy look like? I think we should see his acting before we condemn him, I must have skimmed over his description coz he was always just some sleazy euro-asian in my mind I think. I tend to ignore descriptions and roll with what ever horribly wrong image I create.
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Feb 23, 2012 08:12
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Ravus posted:What? Really? The boy-loving, milk-pale, CRYING MERCHANT is some generic butch looking black guy?
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Factor_VIII posted:He's a merchant; he or his family may have come from elsewhere. And I don't see anything wrong with having a gay character look masculine. We're not talking about 'a gay character', they can be anything. We're talking about Xaro Xhoan motherfucking Daxos CoK posted:Xaro was a languid, elegant man with a bald head and a great beak of a nose Dance posted:“Shall I ask again?” wondered Xaro. “No, I know that smile. It is a cruel queen who dices
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Feb 23, 2012 08:40
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I wish Xaro and Edd would meet. Imagine the whirlwind romance
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Feb 23, 2012 08:48
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How dare you seek to break up the greatest romance in the series? Jolorous forever.
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Feb 23, 2012 08:54
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A tale of star crossed brothers.
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Why yall gotta be so racist? xXD gonna own. www, give me a day and we'll see if I'm still in the mood for ASOIAF: FIFTEEN YEARS LATER AT THE DAYCARE
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Nonso Anozie will do a fine job as Xaro. If I was to be adventurous, I'd say it's another case of Syrio Forel's casting; character over appearance. I do wish he had face jewelry though, Qarth needs to feel exotic as hell.
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I'm still holding out hope for Shahrukh Khan landing a role on this show. Oh man, Shahrukh Khan
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I don't think it has to do with anything about race, we just all thought it would be some guy with pale white skin. It's like if goons found out that the actress that plays Dany doesn't really have platinum/silver hair. That would be a horrible spergfest. EDIT: Oh gently caress what have I done? Stay Safe fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Feb 23, 2012 |
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Dead Man Posting posted:I don't think it has to do with anything about race, we just all thought it would be some guy with pale white skin. I watched the first episode of that horrendous Sword of Truth tv show and sperged when the main bad guy, Darken Rahl, was shown and he didn't have blond hair like he did in the book, but instead had dark brown. 
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Dead Man Posting posted:EDIT: Oh gently caress what have I done? Woken the dragoon. I always figured that guy was black for some reason. But then I have horrendous reading comprehension. Like when Arya runs after the cat in the Red Keep and overhears Varys and another dude talking - Who the gently caress's the other dude? Never figured that out.
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Ravus posted:We're not talking about 'a gay character', they can be anything. We're talking about Xaro Xhoan motherfucking Daxos Dead Man Posting posted:EDIT: Oh gently caress what have I done?
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I really hope a bunch of the TVIV goons didn't read the books. The no-spoiler thread was the best reading material ever. "No way, human being. Arya is totally gonna kill Joffrey or I'll never watch this show again!"
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