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Wait, what? Since when has Asha been incompetent? Sure, she manipulates one guy who has a massive crush on her, but so did Littlefinger, and we're not saying he's just controlling people through sex. Theon trying to follow the rules of succession? He's got Ned's naivete but lacks even a basic understanding of the society he sought to rule. Euron actually did everything right. He followed all the rules of succession. He's not Tywin at all. Tywin seeks to subvert the rules while pretending to follow them; Euron is the Ironman ideal, everything their culture asks for. He won the Kingsmoot fair and square.
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Yeah, I don't agree with any of those comparisons either.
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Feb 24, 2012 00:50
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Oh awesome instead of changing the name of a minor character like Osha they change Asha and cast a doughface. I always pictured her as a pudgeass doughface. Yarrrrrrrrra Greyjoy Some stupid loving tv person was all "Hey she's a pirate let's call her Yara" and other people thought that was a good loving idea.
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Feb 24, 2012 01:06
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Her actress at least looks like she can pull off the smartass part of Asha (my favorite part).
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Feb 24, 2012 01:12
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Maytag posted:Some stupid loving tv person was all "Hey she's a pirate let's call her Yara" and other people thought that was a good loving idea.
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Feb 24, 2012 01:16
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Joramun posted:They thought it sounded too similar to a supporting character's name (Osha), so they changed it to something sounding similar to a lead character's name (Arya). Flawless tv logic. It doesn't sound like Arya because those idiots pronounce it Aria.
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whowhatwhere posted:Euron actually did everything right. He followed all the rules of succession. He's not Tywin at all. Tywin seeks to subvert the rules while pretending to follow them; Euron is the Ironman ideal, everything their culture asks for. He won the Kingsmoot fair and square. Not really. He's their romantic ideal, but Victarion makes it plain through his eyes that while Euron is a dashing adventurer he's ultimately a self-interested guy who hosed off around the world without so much as a "I'm doing this for King and Country." The entire impression I got is that while Euron is attractive, when the wire cuts to the bone he's going to be the first one out the door and leave the kingdom to rot. Euron is basically everything Theon naively thought he was, and Asha thought she was. Personally I'm getting pissed off that after 6 years we still know next to nothing about the guy other than one dude's biased-as-gently caress perspective. I imagine he'd be an interesting POV to at least be close to via a Davos-type.
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The difference between Yara and Asha is that with one character you want to laugh and tousle her hair while with the other you want to engage in faux-rape roleplay. Which is which depends on how much of a sick gently caress you are.
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mind the walrus posted:Not really. He's their romantic ideal, but Victarion makes it plain through his eyes that while Euron is a dashing adventurer he's ultimately a self-interested guy who hosed off around the world without so much as a "I'm doing this for King and Country." The entire impression I got is that while Euron is attractive, when the wire cuts to the bone he's going to be the first one out the door and leave the kingdom to rot. Theon, yes, but Asha's entire thing is that the Ironman ethos is insane and destroying what little was left after Balon's rebellion. She was promising the exact opposite of Euron and is cautious where he is adventerous.
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Does anyone have the link handy to the combined reading order of AFfC/ADwD? Thought I'd give it a try to reread ADwD.
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^A reading order for combining books four and five.
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whowhatwhere posted:Wait, what? Since when has Asha been incompetent? Sure, she manipulates one guy who has a massive crush on her, but so did Littlefinger, and we're not saying he's just controlling people through sex. quote:Theon trying to follow the rules of succession? He's got Ned's naivete but lacks even a basic understanding of the society he sought to rule.
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Ravus posted:What? Really? The boy-loving, milk-pale, CRYING MERCHANT is some generic butch looking black guy? Azure_Horizon posted:Well at least they've fulfilled the "quota", whatever the hell that is. Ashrik fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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Ashrik posted:Also, seriously, guys? Yes? They chose almost the exact opposite description of XXD.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Yes? They chose almost the exact opposite description of XXD. I don't even remember who Xaro whatshisface is meant to be so I don't care that much. As far as I'm concerned he's just another character GRRM has added but has absolutely no intention of doing anything with.
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Sophia posted:They are boring though? Theon's arc got pretty interesting but the viking pirate society as a whole is boring as hell and is also just a rehash of the power struggle going on surrounding the Iron Throne. Asha is Cersei, the woman who uses sex as a tool and thinks she should be able to rule based on ability but is actually not that good of a leader and ultimately still controlled by males. Theon is Ned, the guy looking to follow actual rules of succession and being utterly powerless to make this happen in any way and suffers horribly because of his lack of political savvy. Euron is Tywin, the guy who actually ends up running the show because he is charismatic and powerful and enough of a dick to do what needs to be done. How does Asha use sex as a tool? I don't see it. If anything she likes having sex with tools* but she doesn't think much of them or want anything from them. *much like Dany 
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Ashrik posted:Also, seriously, guys? Azure_Horizon posted:Yes? They chose almost the exact opposite description of XXD. This. It's not a small departure from the books, it's a polar opposite. It's not even like they picked a black guy with the right body type! He's not languid or elegant at all. So yeah, seriously, whatever that was meant to imply anyway.
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Ravus posted:So yeah, seriously, whatever that was meant to imply anyway. 
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Mediant posted:I think it was in reference to "generic butch looking black guy" and "generic black man". We're using generic to mean average... there's nothing special or unique about his appearance, and XXD is a rather unique-looking individual in the books. Ah well, if he can act the part then I don't care that much, it's just a strange casting choice when they've done really well so far.
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Azure_Horizon posted:We're using generic to mean average... there's nothing special or unique about his appearance, and XXD is a rather unique-looking individual in the books. Yup. He's a really odd looking guy in the books. That guy ^^^ is not odd. He's generic. And butch looking. And black. These are all SEPARATE faults with the physical aspect of the casting. Not a call that all black people look alike and all gay people need to be queens. Jesus gently caress bad thread, stop being so thin skinned. If he pulls it off then massive props to him, Syrio-actor-guy nailed his part without looking exactly right so it can happen.
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TheManWithNoName posted:Does anyone have the link handy to the combined reading order of AFfC/ADwD? Thought I'd give it a try to reread ADwD. I hear it's at the corner bar. They give it out to everyone who gets drunk enough to remember nobody should ever reread Dance.
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Lance Reddick from Lost/Fringe would've made a good XXD. Oh well. Now he can play Daario instead.
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http://cliqueclack.com/tv/2012/02/23/30-rock-leap-day/quote:It’s funny that 30 Rock is up against that other show — you know the one. The one with much better ratings; the one about nerds. Answer me this, though: did that show feature an Ewok, lyrics to the Mos Eisley cantina song, a Dungeons & Dragons room, and a completely obscure reference to Xaro Xhoan Daxos from Game of Thrones? Who’s the nerd now Big Bang Theory, huh?!? The nerds really care about this character so they better get it right!
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Joramun posted:Lance Reddick from Lost/Fringe would've made a good XXD. As long as he has blue chops. Although he might be too much of a generic gaunt black man for my tastes, needs to be a bit more unique to be ~my daario~
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I'd be fine with pretty much every other character being cast as a generic black man, there's a couple who should probably match the book's description though.
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bigmcgaffney posted:As long as he has blue chops. Although he might be too much of a generic gaunt black man for my tastes, needs to be a bit more unique to be ~my daario~ Mandy Patinkin with a Jersey Shore tan. Got it.
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TGC Daario is nightmare fuel.
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After Daario Naharis comes into play discard all your clothes... 
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Joramun posted:TGC Daario is nightmare fuel.
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zocio posted:After Daario Naharis comes into play discard all your clothes... I'd tap his mana.
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Joramun posted:TGC Daario is nightmare fuel.  + 
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Anyone played that game enough to know if he's actually a decent character or not? The only card game I'm close to familiar with is Magic, and I've never played another which wasn't inelegant and stupid in comparison.
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When he gets played the game usually ends because it gets hard to concentrate on anything else. 
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Is there a Darkstar card too? I want to know how I can play with with Daario. I'm sure it automatically wins the game. Those two would be unstoppable together.
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 Nothing can top "The Ear of Myrcella" magic booster card, and you can not repel my power now. Surrender your deck to me, loser. Not so fast![hushed murmurs from onlookers] This card I hold here...[the crowd gasps and leans closer] ...is of the night.[thunderous applause]
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mind the walrus posted:Is there a Darkstar card too? I want to know how I can play with with Daario. I'm sure it automatically wins the game. Those two would be unstoppable together. 
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Joramun posted:http://i.imgur.com/qf5wt.png  "By the way, what about a Hodor card? (Though I will be disappointed if its text isn't a string of "Hodor".
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Darkstar, secret Black Ear? Chella's son perhabs?
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zocio posted:Darkstar, secret Black Ear? Chella's son perhabs? That'd be welcome. I miss the Mountain Clans, especially Timett and the Burned Men.
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