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babies havin rabies posted:Edit: I'm glad I got the early education from my parents outside the classroom and I think parents of all/no faiths should really be encouraged to have that discussion in the home first. Sex ed class was too much snickering and blowjob jokes to get as much good information out of. I think you're absolutely right, but I also think people need to stop thinking about sexual education as one big talk you have with your kids. I got a series of age appropriate talks starting with "babies come from mommy and daddy" and ending with "... and that's why you wear a condom." I think it worked out very well because it let the information sink in, and plus I it made me feel comfortable going to my parents with any questions I had. Of course I know of quite a few high schoolers whose sex education from their parents amounted to, no joke, "just keep it in your pants, son". So it's clear schools definitely have to do something, because it's clear not all parents are interested in providing any education.
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When I was 15, my dad sat me and my twin brother down, gave us a 36 pack of Trojans and said, "Don't make the same mistake I did".
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rscott posted:When I was 15, my dad sat me and my twin brother down, gave us a 36 pack of Trojans and said, "Don't make the same mistake I did". The entirety of my sex education from my dad was "If you get a girl pregnant, you're on your own. P.S. don't bother coming home."
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Feb 24, 2012 18:54
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Kim Jong III posted:I think you're absolutely right, but I also think people need to stop thinking about sexual education as one big talk you have with your kids. I got a series of age appropriate talks starting with "babies come from mommy and daddy" and ending with "... and that's why you wear a condom." I think it worked out very well because it let the information sink in, and plus I it made me feel comfortable going to my parents with any questions I had. This is pretty much how we're doing it with our kids. Around 6-7 our oldest got the "this is where babies come from talk". Now that he's eleven its time for more detail before he gets to Middle School. I know his school has some level of sex ed this year (5th Grade) but it's also South Carolina, so I doubt it goes beyond puberty.
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Feb 24, 2012 18:56
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I never had THe Talk with either parent, and I missed it during school. At one point I think mom and I had a conversation that went "Hey you know how to have safe sex right?" "Yes." "Talk over, then."
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Feb 24, 2012 19:01
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Dickeye posted:I never had THe Talk with either parent, and I missed it during school. We had mom and dad sit down with us and explain in detail why I was an uncle at 12. My oldest sister who had the kid was 26, it was drat awkward. I wish I got a 'talk'. I just kind of learned through trial and error. E: Likely why my wife and I are very open about this poo poo when any of the kids ask. Skyworks fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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Feb 24, 2012 19:12
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I kinda wanna post that Tobias clip when he starts to give The Talk to George Michael on Arrested Development. "Well you see, when a man needs to prove to his wife that he's not... I mean, sometimes with great effort a man can achieve an...".
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Skyworks posted:E: Likely why my wife and I are very open about this poo poo when any of the kids ask.
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Feb 24, 2012 19:16
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jojoinnit posted:I've wondered how I'd deal with this when it comes up. How specific are you with your kids and what do you say when they keep probing the way kids do? We are pretty specific about things. Our kids are pretty young, but we are more than happy to talk completely honestly to our nieces and nephews. It is good experience. We even take them to get condoms or the pill if they want. It is their choice, if they want to do it who are we to judge.
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Feb 24, 2012 19:25
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My dad just bought me and my sister a book called Sex or something and said have at it. Luckily I was an avid Loveline listener and learned all I needed about sex ed from that. Although looking back, there are some horrible opinions espoused in that show...
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Feb 24, 2012 19:38
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Dickeye posted:At one point I think mom and I had a conversation that went "Hey you know how to have safe sex right?" "Yes." "Talk over, then." It was a very surreal ten seconds. Funnier, and more ironic, is that after my first wet dream a pamphlet appeared on my bed. The pamphlet's intent was to teach my religion's stance on nocturnal emission and masturbation, as well as to help parents talk about/avoid discussion about puberty. Its effect was that I learned, "You mean I can control it?!  "
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Feb 24, 2012 19:43
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DarkHorse posted:I remember riding with my mom in the car, and I'm pretty sure I was already in college at that point so at least 19 years old, probably 20 or more. Our talk went something like, "So, uh, you know about sex, right?" "Yeah...?" "Any questions?" "Not really, I'm pretty sure I've figured most of it out by now." "Oh. Well, good." 1. That is hilarious. 2. What is the religious stance on nocturnal emissions? Wastin sperms there.
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Being honest about sexual relations and the consequences if you do not use protection is likely the best thing we can do for the kids. Honesty helps, they will ask you questions later if you are.
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My old man was so cute, he was raising my sister and I by myself (my mother left us) and you can tell he just wanted someone else to do this. So around 12 or 13, he's like... "D'yaknow how alla that sex stuff works?", I almost died laughing it was like Norm Macdonald asking me. "Yeah dad, we got classes in school, I know how it all works" "GOOD!" *back to the Eagles game* What is strange is years earlier, I remember my grandmother having a weird pseudo-sex chat with me. She was watching some soap opera and I was playing Gameboy on the couch and she noticed me watching some kind of hot and heavy sequence that was a bit violent, so she asked me if I knew what rape was and I was just like  and she explained to me what it was, why it was wrong, etc.
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Bombadilillo posted:1. That is hilarious.
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jojoinnit posted:I've wondered how I'd deal with this when it comes up. How specific are you with your kids and what do you say when they keep probing the way kids do? Practice on other kids before telling your kids about it. Spend some time at the local playground.
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I forget how I learned about sex. Pretty sure it wasn't from my parents, the only serious talk I ever got from them was my dad talking about people didn't respawn in real life like they did in video games. Thanks dad, I think I've figured that out already.
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Bombadilillo posted:2. What is the religious stance on nocturnal emissions? Wastin sperms there. It's just God jerking you off and that's totally cool and not gay
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Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the natural planning/rhythm method require the woman to constantly monitor her body temperature to better assess when and when she isn't ovulating? I too was a Catholic school kid, and I swear my crazy 7th/8th grade religion teacher sat us down and tried to explain that whole thing to us because it was "just as easy as other birth control!" As I recall there were 20+ steps but it all amounted to something like the woman had to have a temperature of between 97.4 and 99.1 degrees, and it had to be on the sixth day of the second week, and then you had a 3 hour window to have sex, but only if you were married and only for reproductive purposes.
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Kim Jong III posted:As an aside, using one of the calendar based methods can actually work very well. The Standard Days method has something like 95% effectiveness when properly used, which is pretty drat good for not using chemical contraception or a barrier. 5% of a baby seems like a lot.
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Feb 24, 2012 22:07
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The best formal sex ed I ever got was in a graduate physiology course. When I was 24. It was pretty thorough though.
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Feb 24, 2012 22:43
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I can't remember when I learned about sex (I think it might have been an episode of Once Upon a Time... Life), but I remember our sex-ed in school referred to what I would translate as "intercourse" (משגל - an archaic term for sexual intercourse in Hebrew), and the way they described it it sounded like such a weird dancing ritual, and I didn't know how having sex fit into it exactly.
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jojoinnit posted:I've always wondered what sexed class was like? Seems like it'd be really embarrassing. I know I wouldn't have wanted all my classmates to watch me try and put a condom on my banana. The clearest memory from my grade 4 sex ed class was that a bunch of kids shoved their rulers into their shorts as they walked into the room on the first day. I don't remember much else from it, aside from the teacher bringing latkes to class later in the year.
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I think I was about 8 when I got some basic sex ed, and that was because we had a pet turtle, and he was a randy little bitch. Once we got a female for him, my mom had to quickly explain why he kept trying to crawl over her back. Repeat for when parents decided to breed the Doberman we had too. I did get basic sex ed in school, but it was all 'penis goes in vagina and makes baby.' Pretty boring stuff.
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Feb 25, 2012 02:25
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Doc Hawkins posted:5% of a baby seems like a lot. 
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I went to a Catholic school K-5 only, and then for some reason in my public middle school we were exempt from health and gym if we took both Spanish and gifted class, which I did. Training to be goons early or something  At one point in 8th grade gifted we got three days of STD picture slideshows, and that's it. And when I was about .. 10? My mom thrust What's Happening to My Body For Girls at me, clearly very embarrassed, told me not to read the boy chapters, and then said to ask if I had any questions. Sure, mom, you made it very comfortable to come ask you questions. I had the internet by 13 years old (1994!), and I guess I ended up learning a lot there? I know that I am very grateful that by the time I had sex for the first time, I was adamantly "no condom = no sex," though no thanks to my parents.
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That's hopefully were my kids will be. We stressed that we would like them to be married first, but if you feel you want to have sex, be sure to really be in a committed relationship at to trust and know the person they are going to sleep with really well. Also when my daughter hits 15 we are going to get her birth control if she wants it, not just because to stop babies being made, but for acne and hormone balancing also. The boy is 14 and already knows the same things and knows where to get condoms. I really believe that if you remove the guilt and mystery over sex, it goes a long way, and psychology backs me up on this one. You can't plan a family if you freak out one day and go nuts on the opposite gender in a hormone induced sex rage filled with guilt and crying afterwards.
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jojoinnit posted:I've wondered how I'd deal with this when it comes up. How specific are you with your kids and what do you say when they keep probing the way kids do? If they ask, answer. There's seriously no reason to leave sex some kind of unknowable mystery. Kids not knowing about sex is pretty much a modern/urban thing anyway. Few kids who grow up raising livestock ever have to wonder where babies come from (as my farmgirl mom put it, "we would watch the cows humping all day long.").
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Deuce posted:The withdrawal method is not perfect under any circumstances who the gently caress told you that? No poo poo it doesn't work. Wife was on the pill, I withdrew as a backup, and I ended up with twins. We now got one of those plastic "T" things that blocks the eggs. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Feb 25, 2012 |
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Not a chain letter, but it seems like a good exercise into seeing how college football fans regard how to deal with 'criminals' http://collegefootball.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2150&tid=170963761&mid=170963761&sid=1144&style=2
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pillsburysoldier posted:Not a chain letter, but it seems like a good exercise into seeing how college football fans regard how to deal with 'criminals' Brain damage... that'll teach her! I get the distinct impression that the posts on that thread would have been no different if he had shot her.
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Doc Hawkins posted:5% of a baby seems like a lot. That's actually better than you get with condoms or contraception pill in practise.
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Nenonen posted:That's actually better than you get with condoms or contraception pill in practise. It's incredibly disingenuous to compare perfect use of one method with practical use of other methods.
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Piell posted:It's incredibly disingenuous to compare perfect use of one method with practical use of other methods. I'm not comparing anything, you blithering idiot.
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"Better" is a kind of comparison in my country.
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Yeah, "better than" inherently implies a comparison.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Yeah, "better than" inherently implies a comparison. I wasn't comparing methods to another (as Piell claimed), are you now happy?
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Nenonen posted:I wasn't comparing methods to another (as Piell claimed), are you now happy? What were you saying?
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Xarthor posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the natural planning/rhythm method require the woman to constantly monitor her body temperature to better assess when and when she isn't ovulating? Interestingly enough, my parents never gave me any "talk". I got it in 6th grade at a Catholic school. It was surprisingly comprehensive, and when I switched to public school for high school I got an additional class that wasn't bad considering how rural the school was. I guess I got really lucky. downout fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Feb 26, 2012 |
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This is the thread for sharing personal experiences re: birds & bees.
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