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Just upped from $15 to $110 because god drat, a Blu-Ray, a boxset, the soundtracks, a poster..? Holy poo poo.
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Waldorf Sixpence posted:Just upped from $15 to $110 because god drat, a Blu-Ray, a boxset, the soundtracks, a poster..? Holy poo poo. Yeah, I'm considering it myself.
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Feb 25, 2012 07:41
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That was a great video. I wouldn't be disappointed if the documentary was just more of that.
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Feb 25, 2012 08:48
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Hakkesshu posted:That was a great video. I wouldn't be disappointed if the documentary was just more of that. Seriously, I was like "pfft, what would I want with some dumb documentary, just gimme the drat game" and then I spent 35 minutes watching them just talk about adventure games, and when it ended I was like "Man, if only there were a way to get even more behind the scenes looks at Tim and Ron making games together OH WAIT".
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Feb 25, 2012 09:53
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Does Tim Schafer sail or something? I couldn't help but notice that sitting behind Tim was what is almost certainly a remnant of a kevlar sail. I realize that they on occasion will make bags and other items out of old sails, but generally they only sell those items to sailors. Also SF is sort of the regional sailing mecca so,
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Feb 25, 2012 10:58
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Hadlock posted:Does Tim Schafer sail or something? It's a possibility. He's a man of many hobbies.
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Feb 25, 2012 11:02
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Of course he sails. His name is Tim Schafer, and he wants to be a pirate.
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Feb 25, 2012 11:09
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Crappy Jack posted:Of course he sails. His name is Tim Schafer, and he wants to be a pirate. The important question is, does he have any fine leather jackets for sale? Actually, that would be a pretty cool kickstarter reward.
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Feb 25, 2012 11:23
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I sorta knew Tim Schafer before, but not until this thread did I really know who he is. Why do I like him so much? He just seems so.. drat cool 
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Feb 27, 2012 13:00
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Tony Montana posted:I sorta knew Tim Schafer before, but not until this thread did I really know who he is. Because he is. Now go play Day of the Tentacle and Grim Fandango because you're a bad person until you do.
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Feb 27, 2012 13:07
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In related news:- Wasteland 2 Kickstarter is for real and happening soon.
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Al-Saqr posted:In related news:- Brian Fargo posted:"I was quite surprised at how little interest there was" I'm afraid the same will be case for this project.
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Feb 27, 2012 13:13
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Crappy Jack posted:Because he is. Now go play Day of the Tentacle and Grim Fandango because you're a bad person until you do. But... I don't think there's any way to do this. 
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Feb 27, 2012 13:23
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Regy Rusty posted:But... I don't think there's any way to do this. Buy the games. https://scummvm.org to play Scumm games on your modern PC. http://quick.mixnmojo.com/software/grim-fandango-setup to install Grim Fandango on your PC. Now quit wasting time, you're making Tim sad by not playing his games.
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Feb 27, 2012 13:29
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm afraid the same will be case for this project. I think he should set the initial goal low and see what happens, because people will be less inclined to contribute if they see million than if they see a few hundred thousands. He might be setting himself for failure by aiming too high, but I still hope Wasteland 2 will happen.
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@BrianFargo It's official! Mark Morgan who composed the music for @Fallout 1 and 2 has signed on to help do the same and set the mood for #wasteland. First thing I've heard about this game that makes me somewhat excited.
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lordfrikk posted:I think he should set the initial goal low and see what happens, because people will be less inclined to contribute if they see million than if they see a few hundred thousands. He might be setting himself for failure by aiming too high, but I still hope Wasteland 2 will happen. The RPG is a much more expensive genre I'd hazard and perhaps one million is as low as he dared.
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Feb 27, 2012 22:25
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I really think he should have waited a bit longer. I'd wager a lot of people are still hurting from their donations to Tim and won't be able/willing to donate.
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Feb 27, 2012 22:28
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Megazver posted:Mark Morgan Megazver posted:Mark Morgan Megazver posted:Mark Morgan Take my 15 bucks and shut up. I was curious about this Wasteland 2 thingy, but this settled the deal.
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Feb 27, 2012 22:55
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Crappy Jack posted:Because he is. Now go play Day of the Tentacle and Grim Fandango because you're a bad person until you do. I'm 30 years old! I have!
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Feb 28, 2012 00:01
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Saoshyant posted:Take my 15 bucks and shut up.  Fargo's definitely pushing the right buttons.
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Feb 28, 2012 00:13
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Yeah, I'm really curious and hopeful the Wasteland 2 kickstarter will take off. I strongly suspect that the number of fanatic old-school RPG fans is at least as large as the number of old-school adventure games fans. Fingers crossed, and all that.
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Feb 28, 2012 00:19
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Hakkesshu posted:I'm afraid the same will be case for this project. Haha dude its going to double its expected goal. Isometric rpgs have an even bigger niche audience than adventure games and the world has kickstarter fever. He's got my 20$.
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Feb 28, 2012 03:12
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Megazver posted:@BrianFargo Just take my loving money already and treat me like the whore I am. This is excellent news.
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Feb 28, 2012 03:18
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Ron Gilbert  Seriously, I've realized why those old games were interesting and cool and funny. Because the people who made them were interesting, cool people. Imagine that.
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Feb 28, 2012 03:36
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the black husserl posted:Haha dude its going to double its expected goal. Isometric rpgs have an even bigger niche audience than adventure games and the world has kickstarter fever. He's got my 20$. I dunno, Adventure games had an incredibly wide audience and Schaefer is a really well-known name. I know a tonne of people whose entire gaming history can be summed up with Day Of The Tentacle, Monkey Island and maybe a Mario game or two. People that are holding out for a pure isometric RPG and aren't satisfied by the modern incarnations of RPGs seems like it would be a much smaller (If not vocal) crowd. Although I'm more than happy to be proven wrong. I'd say it's likely that Fargos project will get less overall contributers, but higher average contributions than Double Fine. Either way, it'll be a good test as to whether this has just been a once-only fluke riding on the back of Schaefer's charisma or if Kickstarter-funded niche titles are really a viable option.
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Feb 28, 2012 03:55
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Tony Montana posted:I'm 30 years old! I have! Do it again! You probably forgot how to do some of the puzzles.
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Feb 28, 2012 05:24
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I remember when I was in high school I ordered Grim Fandango off of Amazon with some money I got for my birthday. They shipped me a small book of essays by Booker T. Washington instead but since it was ten bucks I never bothered to correct it. Later I tried getting a copy of Starship Titanic because the idea of playing a game by Douglass Adams was very appealing and instead I got the book written by Terry Jones (not bad, BTW). I feel like I'm just not fated to play adventure games so I never really have. If something goes horribly wrong with this project just saying sorry right now for having kicked in $15.
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Feb 28, 2012 05:35
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the black husserl posted:Haha dude its going to double its expected goal. Isometric rpgs have an even bigger niche audience than adventure games and the world has kickstarter fever. He's got my 20$. Nobody today remembers the name Brian Fargo, and nobody today remembers Wasteland. Fargo has no real sob story to tell, no real modern cult classics to back him up. Like Tim Schafer said, if just a single element of the circumstances surrounding Double Fine's kickstarter was gone, it would have failed (or at least been far less successful). The Wasteland 2 kickstarter has like 3 or 4 missing aspects. He was talking like he'd set the goal for $1 million. I just can't see that happening.
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Feb 28, 2012 05:39
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Nobody today remembers the name Brian Fargo, and nobody today remembers Wasteland. Fargo has no real sob story to tell, no real modern cult classics to back him up. Like Tim Schafer said, if just a single element of the circumstances surrounding Double Fine's kickstarter was gone, it would have failed (or at least been far less successful). The Wasteland 2 kickstarter has like 3 or 4 missing aspects. He was talking like he'd set the goal for $1 million. I just can't see that happening. Its not about Brian Fargo, it's about the legacy of isometric RPGs. A lot of people remember Wasteland and the Gold Box Games and Fallout 2. Look, ipod docks and stick figure webcomics pull millions on kickstarter. Code hero just made $100,000. I think a new cRPG will make its goal. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Feb 28, 2012 05:49
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Maybe I'm missing something, but why would a new isometric RPG cost over $1M to make but Schafer budgeted his adventure game for $400k? Where would the extra money be needed?
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Armor-Piercing posted:Maybe I'm missing something, but why would a new isometric RPG cost over $1M to make but Schafer budgeted his adventure game for $400k? Where would the extra money be needed? The Double Fine Adventure game was originally going to be very limited in scope. Only a couple of hours long before the Kickstarter blew up with money. People expect RPGs to be much longer then that, so it would probably need a significantly larger budget.
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Feb 28, 2012 05:54
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And the adventure game was budgeted at 300k (100k was for the documentary). It wasn't even going to have voice acting. It was going to be really small and novel. Now it's spiraling into this huge project that's probably going to end up being almost as big as the lucas arts games.the black husserl posted:Its not about Brian Fargo, it's about the legacy of isometric RPGs. A lot of people remember Wasteland and the Gold Box Games and Fallout 2. I hope you're right.
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Feb 28, 2012 06:03
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This video is worth it for the documentary alone. My pledge was initially just for the game, but that Gilbert/Schafer conversation was so fun and interesting that I am really glad I ended up going the $30 tier.
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Feb 28, 2012 06:42
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Armor-Piercing posted:Maybe I'm missing something, but why would a new isometric RPG cost over $1M to make but Schafer budgeted his adventure game for $400k? Where would the extra money be needed? A RPG is probably going to need a longer development cycle. That's probably most of the cost difference. Six months or whatever Doublefine was initially thinking for their adventure game isn't going to cut it for a real Wasteland 2.
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I think the success of Wasteland 2 depends entirely on their project video. I think it could potentially reach $1 million if they pitched it right. I can't really see it being as successful as Double Fine under any circumstances, though. But hey, it's a really interesting time for games if this all works out. I feel that many niche games will have a pretty good chance of being funded if they actually put effort into their pitches. The whole bubble will burst as soon as they start charging Europeans in euros, though 
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Feb 28, 2012 08:21
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Megazver posted:Mark Morgan Am... I... dreaming? 
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Feb 28, 2012 12:38
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Do backers have to completely fund a game, or could it work with publishers so it's dual funded? Kickstarter is proof of interest in your game + capital raised, could you then shop it to publishers even looking to just match the amount raised? Especially for advertising, localization, platforms, retail -- to spread it farther than just the original backers.
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Gaph posted:Do backers have to completely fund a game, or could it work with publishers so it's dual funded? Kickstarter is proof of interest in your game + capital raised, could you then shop it to publishers even looking to just match the amount raised? Especially for advertising, localization, platforms, retail -- to spread it farther than just the original backers. So, if you get a huge chunk of money for your project and it doesn't go through kickstarter (say if someone just hands you a check for a couple thousand dollars) it doesn't help your kickstarter any.
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100 HOGS AGREE posted:The only rule on kickstarter is that you have to reach your goal on the site, through the site, or no one gets charged and no one gets any money. Well except there's nothing stopping you from depositing the check and then donating the money to your own kickstarter.
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