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I know there's a decent amount of Cam'ron fans in here and personally I never got really into him, where's a good place to start with him? The only songs I'm really familiar with are Killa Cam, Triple Up and a few others off Killa Season. I have no idea what else of his to check out/is he doing anything these days?
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Bulging Nipples posted:This is the best workout song Good times...2003 was a pretty good year for rap music, I guess. If I remember right Get Rich or Die Tryin' had come out recently around then and Encore hadn't come out quite yet so Eminem hadn't entered his post-prime decline (I do often see people arguing that there were some foreshadowing signs on The Eminem Show though, but I disagree. I don't remember really being disappointed by an Eminem record until that ominous day where I purchased and listened to Encore the first day it came out, at like age 16. I did end up buying Relapse though, so I guess I didn't quite learn my lesson at the first opportunity to do so.) Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Feb 24, 2012 |
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goldblums eyes posted:as the really drunk aggressive black chick behind me on the bus last night stated, "when I listen 2 dat nigga waka i just finna punch a bitch in her mawfukkin face. u cum at me da wrong awy and waka playin? i'm layin yo fuckin rear end out COOOOLLLLLD bytch" Just wondering, how do you pronounce "bytch"? Is it the same as "bitch?" Or was she just so black that you just KNEW she was somehow misspelling the word when speaking it? And same with "2", I always assumed that in spoken language there was little difference in pronunciation. And when writing it's typical to spell out individual numbers (depending on convention, I've heard that anything less than and including the teens should be spelled rather than written). Also are you sure she really said "mawfukkin"? You sure it wasn't "muthafuckkin"? or "mufucking"? All of us in this rap thread do appreciate your attempt to make sure we know you're "down" by showing just how ignorant and uneducated you believe blacks to be. ------------------- On less blatantly-racist matters, I approve of the new thread title. Also grime is great for working out, as a couple of people have pointed out.
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Feb 24, 2012 16:22
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Why do people hate him that much? I know he's a nutjob with the conspiracy stuff, but that stuff has always been in rap.
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Feb 24, 2012 16:39
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Mike Tysons CARFAX posted:I know there's a decent amount of Cam'ron fans in here and personally I never got really into him, where's a good place to start with him? The only songs I'm really familiar with are Killa Cam, Triple Up and a few others off Killa Season. I have no idea what else of his to check out/is he doing anything these days? his best album imo is come home with me, also the first few dipset volume mixtapes from around then are great. then id maybe check the purple haze record and the last few dipset group tapes from around then, i think they go up to around volume 6. the best recent cam is probably the boss of all bosses 2.5 mixtape but id start with early 2000s stuff first
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Feb 24, 2012 16:52
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alansmithee posted:Just wondering, how do you pronounce "bytch"? Is it the same as "bitch?" Or was she just so black that you just KNEW she was somehow misspelling the word when speaking it? And same with "2", I always assumed that in spoken language there was little difference in pronunciation. And when writing it's typical to spell out individual numbers (depending on convention, I've heard that anything less than and including the teens should be spelled rather than written). Also are you sure she really said "mawfukkin"? You sure it wasn't "muthafuckkin"? or "mufucking"? yup, by transcribing what one really hood chick said into how she would've typed it makes me think all blacks are uneducated. I liked this post until the very end
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Feb 24, 2012 16:55
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goldblums eyes posted:yup, by transcribing what one really hood chick said into how she would've typed it makes me think all blacks are uneducated. I liked this post until the very end
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Feb 24, 2012 17:33
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goldblums eyes posted:yup, by transcribing what one really hood chick said into how she would've typed it makes me think all blacks are uneducated. I liked this post until the very end
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Feb 24, 2012 17:45
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come home with me is my fav cam album. id be surprised if you havent heard oh boy or hey ma. diplomatic immunity 1/2 is great as well in my opinion. ps, love the loving thread title
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farmtrill posted:his best album imo is come home with me, also the first few dipset volume mixtapes from around then are great. then id maybe check the purple haze record and the last few dipset group tapes from around then, i think they go up to around volume 6. the best recent cam is probably the boss of all bosses 2.5 mixtape but id start with early 2000s stuff first Yeah Come Home With Me is good but Cam has owned since he was a Junior Mafia ghostwriter and running with Ma$e. Confessions of Fire and SDE definitely got some joints too. Basically listen to all Cam' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VvgdM7UTHE there's only a video for the original version of What Means The World To You but the remix has UGK, Ludacris, Trina, and a young Juelz Santana so listen to that instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKic2mvbOs also yeah appreciate the title change, thanks het  and regarding weird orthography I did a group project last semester with a dude who didn't really use any slang in his texts but substituted Ks for every single hard C. it was strange to see like "kompile" and "okkur"
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Jock Mocken posted:and regarding weird orthography I did a group project last semester with a dude who didn't really use any slang in his texts but substituted Ks for every single hard C. it was strange to see like "kompile" and "okkur" Iirc don't Bloods do that? I remember reading it somewhere but could be false, obviously.
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savinhill posted:Why do people hate him that much? I know he's a nutjob with the conspiracy stuff, but that stuff has always been in rap. For me it's a combination of taking himself really seriously, being really bad, having worse fans and being a prick to the rappers who have to share the stage with him. Like, everyone I know who has gone to an ImmTech show either in the audience or as a fellow performer says he starts every set off with something like "Alright, now that that human being poo poo is over..." re: whoever played before him. He also talks poo poo on his lovely white conscious rap loving Alex Jones watching audience and is a huge prick to his fanbase because he sees himself as being super hard and raw and doesn't like that his music only attracts crowds of lovely white people, but I mean I don't really fault him for that since ImmTech fans deserve to be punished. I have heard that cited as a reason some of my friends who have seen him live don't like him though.
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waht does an immortal technique fan even look like (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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alansmithee posted:Just wondering, how do you pronounce "bytch"? when you add the b"iyi"tch to the middle part http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlBMRIk7LZg&noredirect=1 there seem to be various spellings
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alansmithee posted:Iirc don't Bloods do that? I remember reading it somewhere but could be false, obviously. Yeah, and crips put a k after every b or just switch out every b for c's. At least this crip kid I know does it on facebook and it's infuriating to read. Any song with this beat has me goin hard in the gym (and I have like 8 of them on my ipod but I remember this one specifically, the dipset one is pretty dope too) http://youtu.be/t9Nbnq3sJOk I think fast pacing is more important than hardcore lyrics. DMX and Waka Flocka just pumps me up to shoot someone not lift weights lol. I don't know what grime is, is it different than regular UK rap? I like that there lowkey dude.
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SLAMMYsosa posted:For me it's a combination of taking himself really seriously, being really bad, having worse fans and being a prick to the rappers who have to share the stage with him. I mean, if I'm being honest here and identify the reasons you provided there and the reasons others give...the core things you despise about him are prevalent in a shitload of rappers that are beloved in this thread and in general. I think a lot of NMS rap fans just like trying to seem hip/superior/witty by specifically ragging on Immortal Technique, because he's like one of those easy target cliche names that you see mentioned by oblivious fools who are like "I dig INTELLIGENT RAP, conscious underground hip hop braaaa" ala DefJux dudes and Sage Francis. Not that I'm a fan (or hater) of Immortal Technique or anything. It's obvious he's not a particularly talented rapper in terms of flow or lyricism or anything at all. I liked him when I was like, 14, and I think he's one of those rappers where you discover him in like junior high or something and think he's amazing and then grow up to other much better poo poo. Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Feb 25, 2012 |
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Jock Mocken posted:Confessions of Fire and SDE definitely got some joints too. Basically listen to all Cam' It really blows my mind cam doesn't get stick over that confessions of fire album cover. I guess in a time before no homo you could do those kind of album covers. Everytime I see it I think of that Simpsons episode where the gay steel mill worker says "We work hard, we play hard"
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man what happened to Weezy, one minute he's releasing great mixtapes and the next he's playing guitar, falling off his skateboard and signing Limp Bizkit
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Limp Bizkit, Busta Rhymes, Drake, Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Tyga, Mystikal, all on the same label now. I would espouse the US government tactically nuking that room just to finally eliminate Drake, Fred Durst, and Nicki Minaj. Sure, you get a lot of innocent losses like Wayne and Busta but I think I'm willing to make those sacrifices for the greater good of hip hop.
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mistermojo posted:man what happened to Weezy, one minute he's releasing great mixtapes and the next he's playing guitar, falling off his skateboard and signing Limp Bizkit Birdman signed them.
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mistermojo posted:man what happened to Weezy, one minute he's releasing great mixtapes and the next he's playing guitar, falling off his skateboard and signing Limp Bizkit It didn't happen overnight. Weezy done so much syrup he even fall off slow.
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Watched MTVs 'Hottest MCs in the game' which was a complete waste of time. So, question: most underrated? Go! (not historically, current acts only)
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aniero posted:Watched MTVs 'Hottest MCs in the game' which was a complete waste of time. Obie Trice, Lloyd Banks, R.A. the Rugged Man, and uhhhhh maybe Crooked I and/or Chino XL?
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I didnt think much about the criteria, I guess I tend to think of it in terms of 'poo poo that the radio/MTV overlooks' but whatever comes to mind first works as well.
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SLAMMYsosa posted:For me it's a combination of taking himself really seriously, being really bad, having worse fans and being a prick to the rappers who have to share the stage with him. I saw him at Rock the Bells two years ago in NYC and randomly after a song he went: "Ayoooo! Ayoooooooo! Look at the nearest woman to your left... Look her in the loving eyes!!!! There's a good chance that she was raped in her lifetime... Look her in the eyes!!!!! This woman to your left might have been raped in her life!! She might have never loving told anyone but she was loving RAPED!!!! How do y'all feel about that poo poo!!?!? Etc. Etc. Etc." He totally lost the crowd and more than half the fans left to find someone else to listen to. I've never seen the mood killed quicker than that in my life. It was awkward just being in hearing distance of the stage.
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RCarr posted:I saw him at Rock the Bells two years ago in NYC and randomly after a song he went: "Ayoooo! Ayoooooooo! Look at the nearest woman to your left... Look her in the loving eyes!!!! There's a good chance that she was raped in her lifetime... Look her in the eyes!!!!! This woman to your left might have been raped in her life!! She might have never loving told anyone but she was loving RAPED!!!! How do y'all feel about that poo poo!!?!? Etc. Etc. Etc." This actually INCREASED my respect for him. How terrible of him for challenging the status quo right??
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If I was raped I certainly wouldn't want someone staring at me trying to figure out if I was or not.
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jesus christ, that approaches michael scott levels in terms of "heart in the right place but insanely loving inappropriate"
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RCarr posted:I saw him at Rock the Bells two years ago in NYC and randomly after a song he went: "Ayoooo! Ayoooooooo! Look at the nearest woman to your left... Look her in the loving eyes!!!! There's a good chance that she was raped in her lifetime... Look her in the eyes!!!!! This woman to your left might have been raped in her life!! She might have never loving told anyone but she was loving RAPED!!!! How do y'all feel about that poo poo!!?!? Etc. Etc. Etc." Hahaha, he did the same thing when I saw him a few years ago. Except the scary part is people were cheering along. It wasn't quite random though, it was after he played "Dance with the Devil" and he started talking about "people ask me if this song is real, and i tell them 'yeah, this poo poo happens everyday'" I've seen IT twice and both times it was just a weird mixture of really silly and uncomfortable and sad. Surprisingly nice guy IRL though
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New Rugged Man album coming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-2n5JYmzTk
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The Doo Do Chasers posted:If I was raped I certainly wouldn't want someone staring at me trying to figure out if I was or not. haha seriously, outting potential rape victims at a fuckin concert, great idea
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TheFallenEvincar posted:To be fair though, a lot of rappers take themselves too seriously, childishly diss other performers, throw around homophobic slurs, see themselves as super hard and raw to a delusional level, and often babble about all kinds of political conspiracy bullshit. Yeah, I mean it's not like ImmTech is alone in having any of these qualities individually, but like you said he is an easy target because he has all of them in spades. I think what really does it is he sort of embodies everything that can be lovely about rappers. Like he has all the arrogance of a "conscious" rapper while fronting like he's all hard like a lovely "ignorant" rapper would. Not to mention the lovely battle rapper ethos he has too. Plus, his music is impossibly bad. I don't know, I think there are a lot of rappers who come close to ImmTech in a lot of these areas. See: the Strange Famous, Def Jux and Rhymesayers rosters. But as terrible as Sage and Slug are, ImmTech manages to be worse in every way and then some. That rape banter sounds awful. I hear he likes to tell his white audiences poo poo like "at least you aren't at a klan rally..." which I guess is accurate since white power rallies are probably on the short list of Worse Ways To Spend Time Than Going To An Immortal Technique Concert eighty-four merc fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Feb 25, 2012 |
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SLAMMYsosa posted:Plus, his music is impossibly bad. I mean they have their hits and misses and embarrassingly lame moments, and most of them were the rap of my junior high years, but I think "terrible" is a bit much. Even saying they come anywhere close to Immortal Technique in terms of quality seems unfair. To each their own, but I can still bump stuff like A Healthy Distrust or Labor Days even now (probably, I don't feel like risking shattering my nostalgia and actually doing so) and I think Atmosphere's EPs and LPs of the last two or three years have been pretty decent. I look forward to Aesop Rock finally coming out with a new solo LP whenever that happens. Same with Cage if he's dropping the weird emo rap-rock singsong bullshit he ruined his last album with. Honestly Brother Ali's probably my favorite rapper right now and the only rapper other than maybe Kanye West that I can still actually shell out money and pay for new albums from without getting uneasy/nervous about it (though that'll change eventually, maybe his upcoming album Mourning in America and Dreaming in Color or collaboration album with Freeway will be harbingers of decline). They're not representative of my taste in rap in general or even my general taste in music and it annoys me when oblivious people who don't know much about rap still do that cliche bullshit about holding them up as purveyors of "real" or "intelligent" hip hop...but I definitely don't think they're anywhere near "terrible". Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Feb 26, 2012 |
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The Lucas posted:Birdman signed them.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:People think Sage and Slug (or say, Aesop Rock) are genuinely terrible? You also seem to just toss in the entire DefJux and Rhymesayers rosters too, I don't know... This. Cage and Brother Ali bore the hell out of me and Atmosphere is hit or miss but Aesop Rock is talented as gently caress. He was one of the first rappers I got into in high school. savinhill posted:Why the gently caress would anyone sign Limp Biscuit nowadays? I don't pay much attention to pop culture or much modern music at all nowadays, but I doubt there's any type of demand for a Limp Biscuit comeback. They released an album last year and don't quote me on this but I think it did pretty well- well enough to get them headlining spots in European festivals. I really think that this is just some bizarre attempt for Birdman to "diversify" his label or something. It's not like he himself is doing anything big these days.
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this forever JetLife
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Slackerish posted:I really think that this is just some bizarre attempt for Birdman to "diversify" his label or something. It's not like he himself is doing anything big these days. It definitely seems like something Cash Money's doing to expand the brand into rock music. Birdman and Slim are both in their 40's I believe, and they might not be quite with it as far as what the kids are into these days like they were 5, 10, 15 years ago.
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