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pixaal posted:If you are okay with medium settings it should be do able. I can double check, I normally am find with 45FPS though, so I tune my settings around that not 60 and I'm fine with a 6850 in BF3. I think I have a mix of mid and high and maybe 1 ultra or something that's low intensity. Right now I'm playing everything on low, with textures on medium I think, at 1280x720 and getting anywhere from 30 to 120 FPS. Op Metro I usually get 80 in the train station section and 30 outdoors with spikes all over the place. So if I could just knock stuff up to say medium and get 45-60 FPS with fewer spikes that'd be great.
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Regardless if the 77xx's are worth it at current prices or not, AMD certainly had fun on the marketing end http://www.techpowerup.com/160273/AMD-Pulls-Hysterical-Cape-Verde-Marketing-Stunt.html quote:No NVIDIA-styled Press Deck booklet, or even former-ATI styled Ruby doll, but a medicine bottle, which reads "Verdetrol". The label directed them to insert the blue capsules inside it to the heat vents of the graphics card, when benchmarking, so it "acts as a performance enhancement" HINT - Green aaaaaaaaaaaaand...
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That's what happens when you fire all your competent PR and marketing staff.
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http://verdetrol.com/ wow
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Alereon posted:That's what happens when you fire all your competent PR and marketing staff.
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As long as they're using memes in marketing, nVidia should put up a billboard in front of AMD HQ with a "no1curr" macro.
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If there's an EVGA "Cool Story Bro" edition GTX 680, I'm going to just use IGPUs.
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Surprised to see hadn't been posted here yet: AMD's Graphics CTO Quits on Eve of Radeon 7700 Launch. The article makes it seem like they are bleeding management over there. Are things really that bleak?
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Agreed posted:If there's an EVGA "Cool Story Bro" edition GTX 680, I'm going to just use IGPUs. "We Got a Real Badass Over Here" edition, on the other hand...
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Gherkin Jerkin posted:Surprised to see hadn't been posted here yet: AMD's Graphics CTO Quits on Eve of Radeon 7700 Launch. This is probably a Pretty Big Deal. Probably more due to the current climate not exactly favoring his talents as well as it could and the corporate culture undergoing tremendous changes under AMD's new financial structure and top executive management, but this is a guy who oversaw a lot of extremely competitive designs from conception to launch. Not at the ground level, but "big picture." I'm going to completely, wildly speculate that this could be the result of a bid on his part to try to grab something by turning in notice and them calling his bluff, because 1. he just finished overseeing an extremely successful graphics generation, so may have been feeling owed something for it, and 2. AMD isn't in any position to reward any executive exceptionally well at the moment regardless of merit. As their extremely rose-colored press release puts it - and I'm paraphrasing - "blah blah blah hemorrhaging people and this particular guy really hurts, poo poo"
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In other news: Nvidia (stop me if you've heard this before) says Kepler is going to be pricey because of yield issues. Get ready to consider the 7970s price a "bargain". Intel, having no direct CPU competition, decides that it can sit on sandy bridge until inventory sells out. Nobody could ever have seen this coming, nobody.
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Longinus00 posted:In other news: drat. Remember those rumors that the GK104 would cost $299 and have 7970 performance? Not that it was ever likely but it seems impossible now.
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Dogen posted:"We Got a Real Badass Over Here" edition, on the other hand... poo poo's on fire, yo edition is reserved for the next lineup of Fermi rebrands Fermi is hot
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TheInquirer is reporting that Piledriver cores (the successor to Bulldozer) implement Resonant Clock Mesh technology licensed from Cyclos Semiconductor in order to reduce power consumption by 10%. Details are sparse, but apparently this technology reduces the power required to distribute the clock signal throughout the chip. Combined with a more mature 32nm process and improved yields from not having a massive slab of L3 cache, this should hopefully improve Bulldozer's dismal performance and power efficiency.
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You can get much more detail from the EE Times. The 10% reduction is just an estimate for what the technology can do, not what the Piledriver implementation achieves. The tl;dr of the technology is that it uses dark magic (and inductors) to reuse some of the clock signal electricity instead of dissipating all of it, and the savings come at almost no cost above the innocents sacrificed to bind the pact of evil creating it.
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So what's the medium term landscape for desktop GPU's? Pitcairn 78XX cards with price:performance ratios matching the 6000 series from AMD in March? 28nm chips from Nvidia & AMD price readjustments in April? Looks like that will be a good time to put something together along with a new ivybridge cpu and a 7 series chipset.
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Zhentar posted:You can get much more detail from the EE Times. The 10% reduction is just an estimate for what the technology can do, not what the Piledriver implementation achieves. The tl;dr of the technology is that it uses dark magic (and inductors) to reuse some of the clock signal electricity instead of dissipating all of it, and the savings come at almost no cost above the innocents sacrificed to bind the pact of evil creating it. Yeah, but are the inductors nanometer scale bright red Fasel inductors? Because the tone is going to be poo poo otherwise, gotta get that REAL wah-wah sound.
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Longinus00 posted:
Linkdumping from the Intel thread: http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-is-only-delaying-dual-core-mobile-ivy-bridge-cpus/14933.html TLDR; The only thing being delayed is dual core mobile parts, dual and quad core desktop chips, and quad core mobiles are still coming out.
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Goddamnit, managed to upgrade from a 5950 to some 7970's thanks to a friend. Except I didn't realize that the 7970 doesn't have two DVI outputs and instead uses DisplayPort, which would be great if I actually had a DP cable. It's hard to go back to a single monitor, even if it is just for one night. Though if I'm using the 7970's in CrossFire am I able at all to use the DVI slot on the 2nd card to output to a monitor?
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It has HDMI! HDMI uses the same video as DVI, you can get a dirt cheap electro-mechanical adapter as opposed to some ghetto active DisplayPort adapter.
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HalloKitty posted:It has HDMI! I just kind of figured I could use the DVI output on the other card in the meantime
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Plus displayport is the ~future~
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As one of the 3 people in the world actually using DisplayPort (and using it to carry sound too!), I feel qualified to say that it owns.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:As one of the 3 people in the world actually using DisplayPort (and using it to carry sound too!), I feel qualified to say that it owns. Care to say why? It seems so similar to HDMI I don't really get it (although I plan to use it when my 7970 comes)
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Fatal posted:Care to say why? In practice though it really doesn't matter. They're both one cable solutions for audio and video. I've just had an easier time getting everything to recognize and play nice with DisplayPort than I ever have with HDMI, especially when it comes to connecting PCs to AV devices (HDCP negotiation issues, wonky overscan, etc.).
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Plus isnt Displayport a packetised protocol? Meaning if you have a resolution far higher than the cable bandwidth can handle, it will still work (for slow 2D scenarios, eg windows desktop)
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Bigger numbers, duh. I can feel the raw power of 17.28 Gbit/s (compared to HDMI's 10.2 Gbit/s) surging through the monitor and into my face. I've had kind of the opposite experience, where it makes my monitor not want to wake up from powersave, but that could be because it's displayport on an nvidia card, and I don't think any nvidia ref designs use it, so it might not be the best implemented. Either that or it's the U2412m's fault, who knows. I've gotten used to turning my monitors off now because I'm not unplugging the swank BLUE ARGYLE displayport cable 
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Fatal posted:Care to say why? It seems so similar to HDMI I don't really get it (although I plan to use it when my 7970 comes) It's also licensing cost free, or nearly so, in addition to what the parrot said.
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DVI Just Works so I'll be sad to see it go.
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Fatal posted:Care to say why? It seems so similar to HDMI I don't really get it (although I plan to use it when my 7970 comes) DisplayPort cable cannot fall out. It hooks in and has a release. That makes it completely better. I guess I am one of those 3 people using displayport. I do not use it for sound. Maybe I'm number 4.
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I'm #5 here, I guess. Though I partly do because I have three monitors.
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dud root posted:Plus isnt Displayport a packetised protocol? Meaning if you have a resolution far higher than the cable bandwidth can handle, it will still work (for slow 2D scenarios, eg windows desktop) Yeah, it's packetized. Also has an embedded clock and implements data scrambling, so it's very similar to PCIe in a way. (minus the clock I guess, since PCIe has a separate REFCLK). And latched connector 
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Killer robot posted:I'm #5 here, I guess. Though I partly do because I have three monitors. Same, considering ditching my old Dell 2007FP, and my two newer monitors (2211h and 2311h) for 3 2412m's but I dunno if I can convince myself to spell 1k on monitors, after having spent 500 last year. On an unrelated note, I never realized my 2007fp was an IPS panel. I knew it was great, just didn't know why.
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I want to imagine another reason DisplayPort never took off all the way was because 90% of the first run of cables to hit OEM's/retailers that weren't $30 Belkins were defective and wouldn't let you turn your monitor on without unplugging it first causing everyone to apathyswitch back to DVI. Monoprice only just started carrying working cables about half a year ago, and I like it because it's small and thin, compared to the huge goddamn DVI cable I've been using since 2004. Only thing that bugs me is that powering the monitor off resets the display to 640x480, so all my icons get hosed up in the process
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Setzer Gabbiani posted:I want to imagine another reason DisplayPort never took off all the way was because 90% of the first run of cables to hit OEM's/retailers that weren't $30 Belkins were defective and wouldn't let you turn your monitor on without unplugging it first causing everyone to apathyswitch back to DVI. Monoprice only just started carrying working cables about half a year ago, and I like it because it's small and thin, compared to the huge goddamn DVI cable I've been using since 2004. Only thing that bugs me is that powering the monitor off resets the display to 640x480, so all my icons get hosed up in the process That is really weird. I've never had that issue on my dell monitors.
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movax posted:And latched connector Yeah, I always thought the original, full size DisplayPort connector was a fantastic looking thing. I've now got a monitor with it, I don't use it (because of Windows making it disappear if I turn it off), but it is a glorious feeling connector. Mini DisplayPort is so boring in comparison. Thanks, Apple 
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I can't believe it's been two months now and Nvidia not only doesn't have competition to the 7000 series yet, they haven't even said anything about it.
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Coredump posted:Its like AMD is in a catch 22. "Hey you have poo poo cpus, we're not going to buy them. Hey you have good video cards, still not gonna buy them." I know there's more to it than this but this is the impression I'm getting from people talking online. HalloKitty posted:What? No. People are buying AMD GPUs, and have been for a long time. The 7970s have been selling, even at such high prices. http://techreport.com/discussions.x/22543 JPR: Nvidia ruled discrete GPUs last quarter quote:The latest discrete graphics shipment figures from Jon Peddie Research are in, and they suggest Nvidia is holding on to a growing piece of a shrinking market. Here are the research firm's market share estimates, which pertain strictly to "graphics AIBs" (a.k.a. graphics add-in boards, or discrete graphics cards): I know this is going back a ways. But this right here is where I getting that idea from. I don't know what AMD can do but they don't have the gpu marketshare that their products should have for them.
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Zhentar posted:You can get much more detail from the EE Times. The 10% reduction is just an estimate for what the technology can do, not what the Piledriver implementation achieves. The tl;dr of the technology is that it uses dark magic (and inductors) to reuse some of the clock signal electricity instead of dissipating all of it, and the savings come at almost no cost above the innocents sacrificed to bind the pact of evil creating it. From reading this, I fully expect AMD's next Radeon codename to be "Pentagram"
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