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Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Careful with that :can:, please don't spill it everywhere.

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Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006

Splizwarf posted:

Careful with that :can:, please don't spill it everywhere.

Pfft, you know we're all going to have to sit through another lecture about how iTunes works and how we are all plebes.

I'm pretty disappointed with most of the tabbys shown off so far at MWC. The Transformer Infinity is nice but beyond that not much else piques my interest. I was really hoping to see something about the Asus 7 inch tablet but I'm sure they'll end up telling us we all just imagined it.

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003
Chances are I'll upgrade the Xoom to a Transformer Infinity for school this fall. While the whole PadFone platform looks really cool, I don't need a new phone for the time being.

What would be cool is if Asus put out a Transformer Phone that wirelessly synced stuff between the Infinity and the Phone, so you get all the benefits of the Padfone concept but without having to only use one device or the other at a time.

uapyro
Jan 13, 2005

Kirk posted:

So I've decided to give the Android world another shot. I picked up a used Motorola Xoom (i know :rolleyes:), installed the ICS upgrade, and...

It's actually pretty good. It's much faster than I remember, and I'm starting to really like the whole ICS desktop paradigm. The browser is definitely improved over the old Honeycomb one.

Is there a list of must-have android tablet games kicking around?

I'm really hooked on this one:
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.hexage.radiant.hd&hl=en

It was the Free App of the Day on Amazon a few days ago

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Asus has some kind of cloud app for syncing. Called My Cloud I think

e: Looking at it for the first time MyCloud does cloud storage with pc client. Has a remote desktop app that works with splashtop so i didn't even have to buy it (:qq:). And some internet radio stations.

lamentable dustman fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 28, 2012

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.
Samsung is also working on sCloud but its been delayed till august? i think.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Clouds and data caps are ideas at complete odds with each other. The friction will only get worse.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

lamentable dustman posted:

Asus has some kind of cloud app for syncing. Called My Cloud I think

e: Looking at it for the first time MyCloud does cloud storage with pc client. Has a remote desktop app that works with splashtop so i didn't even have to buy it (:qq:). And some internet radio stations.

I assumed it was crappy bloat and froze it. Is it actually worth using?

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Probably not unless you don't want to pay for Spashtop. The cloud thing could be done with dropbox (it is unlimited storage for 2 years if that matters) and the radio stuff looked bad.

The storage cloud does have android phone and iphone phone apps along with the desktop clients

Super Aggro Crag
Apr 23, 2008




And, of course as always, kill Hitler.


Just noticed the Samsung Galaxy 7.0 Plus just dropped $50 to $300 at Best Buy. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is ICS. Do you think it'll ever get an ICS update?

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

lamentable dustman posted:

Probably not unless you don't want to pay for Spashtop. The cloud thing could be done with dropbox (it is unlimited storage for 2 years if that matters) and the radio stuff looked bad.

The storage cloud does have android phone and iphone phone apps along with the desktop clients

What does "works with splashtop" mean then. Did he mean to say that it's a Splashtop alternative?

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Super Aggro Crag posted:

Just noticed the Samsung Galaxy 7.0 Plus just dropped $50 to $300 at Best Buy. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is ICS. Do you think it'll ever get an ICS update?

Don't ever buy a device hoping it will be different/better later on.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006
^^^^
What he said though. I love mine even though its on HC.


Super Aggro Crag posted:

Just noticed the Samsung Galaxy 7.0 Plus just dropped $50 to $300 at Best Buy. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger is ICS. Do you think it'll ever get an ICS update?

I love mine and it will, eventually. Probably.

Samsung has said it will. Take that as you like.

Maker Of Shoes
Sep 4, 2006

AWWWW YISSSSSSSSSS
DIS IS MAH JAM!!!!!!

Codiusprime posted:

Samsung has said

This needs to be the IYG forum title.

Codiusprime
Mar 17, 2006
But they've chaaaaanged!!!

I bought my Tab Plus knowing it was on HC and knowing what that meant. Any upgrade it sees is a bonus.

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Secret Sweater posted:

What does "works with splashtop" mean then. Did he mean to say that it's a Splashtop alternative?

I mean it literally has a splashtop in it. There is a skinned version of splashtop that normally costs like 10 bucks or whatever that works with the free splashtop server you get on the website

Tornhelm
Jul 26, 2008

Maker Of Shoes posted:

This needs to be the IYG forum title.

To be fair though, Samsung's international stuff is fine. Its only the customized bullshit that the American carriers insist on that gently caress things up.

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

randyest posted:

iPad2 launched on 3/11/2011 at $729 for the 32G 3G model and on 3/13/2011 iSuppli tore it down and put the BOM at $326 for the 32G/3G model. That's a cost of $403, or ~55% profit. Add in manufacturing and that's only another ~$7.

That's a strong analysis, it's only missing the costs for Apple to design, distribute and market the iPad, the costs to develop the operating system, build retail stores, billion dollar data centers, and a couple other things that somehow lead to Apple's net margins being somewhere in the 23% region instead of 55%.

That's only a 140% error though, so kudos, by IYG standards that's a bullseye!

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Tornhelm posted:

To be fair though, Samsung's international stuff is fine. Its only the customized bullshit that the American carriers insist on that gently caress things up.

Yes and no.

Sure the international SGS2 should be well supported, but you can't say the same for the Galaxy R, or Galaxy S Advance or a lot of the other numerous variants.

Same thing will likely happen with their tablets

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer
So I got a new C2O Prime came back from ASUS from an RMA. It's currently on the charger and I'm going to leave it there for about 5 hours. There aren't any visible physical defects on it. The shipping box had a hole, about the size of a screw driver, in it on the top and the Prime's box doesn't have a snug fit like my other one did. I think they re-shrink wrapped it at the RMA center after testing it.

I'm really hoping that they have eliminated the WiFi Antenna that they were using in the C1O I had and the earlier models. Over at XDA no one seems to have opened one up yet. Though here are some interesting things they are doing to get GPS and WiFi to work better( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520642 ).

Has anyone else gotten a C2O through either a purchase or RMA and what are your impressions of it so far?

Edit: This is bullshit! The back light on the new unit won't turn on at all. I can see the word ASUS come up when I turn it on and the table gets REALLY hot on the bottom right corner while it is on.

Luckily I am on the phone right now with ASUS and I just learned that they are going to pay for the tablet to be shipped back to them and I will get priority RMA processing.

Photos for this bullshit
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4784673/Pictures/Photos/Prime/DSCF2060.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4784673/Pictures/Photos/Prime/DSCF2061.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4784673/Pictures/Photos/Prime/DSCF2062.JPG
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4784673/Pictures/Photos/Prime/DSCF2063.JPG

Edit 2: I kind of wish I had never bought this thing now.

SlayVus fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Feb 29, 2012

Jethro
Jun 1, 2000

I was raised on the dairy, Bitch!

Internaut! posted:

That's a strong analysis, it's only missing the costs for Apple to design, distribute and market the iPad, the costs to develop the operating system, build retail stores, billion dollar data centers, and a couple other things that somehow lead to Apple's net margins being somewhere in the 23% region instead of 55%.

That's only a 140% error though, so kudos, by IYG standards that's a bullseye!
You mean to tell me that an analysis which purports to lay out the cost of an item doesn't include expenses that aren't part of the item's cost? Stop the loving presses.

Tornhelm
Jul 26, 2008

dissss posted:

Yes and no.

Sure the international SGS2 should be well supported, but you can't say the same for the Galaxy R, or Galaxy S Advance or a lot of the other numerous variants.

Same thing will likely happen with their tablets

Not really, the only fragmentation we'll probably see is similar to the Asus Infinity having two different processors depending on whether its LTE or WiFi, other than that theres only really a few models so they'll get updated.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Tornhelm posted:

Not really, the only fragmentation we'll probably see is similar to the Asus Infinity having two different processors depending on whether its LTE or WiFi, other than that theres only really a few models so they'll get updated.

I think you underestimate Samsung's propensity for cranking out devices.

They're already considering variants with stylus and I'll bet we'll see different chipsets too (isn't the 10.1 2 supposed to be Exynos?) depending on demand and what they can cram in the cheapest.

randyest
Sep 1, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Internaut! posted:

That's a strong analysis, it's only missing the costs for Apple to design, distribute and market the iPad, the costs to develop the operating system, build retail stores, billion dollar data centers, and a couple other things that somehow lead to Apple's net margins being somewhere in the 23% region instead of 55%.

That's only a 140% error though, so kudos, by IYG standards that's a bullseye!
You're so right, as long as you completely ignore context and consider 23% margin to be "tiny" and agree with the claim that ipads at launch are sold "for the cost of parts and manufacture" which is the claim to which I replied. Here it is again so you can revel in the awesome IYG claim you're defending:

Craptacular! posted:

We have no idea what the iPad's price structure will be like, we've heard one Retina SKU and one without, etc. What we do know about the iPad is that it's margins at launch are extremely tiny, with Apple basically selling them for the cost of parts and manufacture, rolling in dough with their software distribution and their phone business of course.

It does make a compelling argument to drop the iPad 2 to $299 or so, because even at that price only about 15% of the iPad-buying segment is interested in that, and presently non-Android tablets collectively control about 5% of the industry.
No one was talking about R&D, retail store, data center overhead, etc. so maybe if you re-read the initial claim and response in context you'll understand better?

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer

randyest posted:

You're so right, as long as you completely ignore context and consider 23% margin to be "tiny" and agree with the claim that ipads at launch are sold "for the cost of parts and manufacture" which is the claim to which I replied. Here it is again so you can revel in the awesome IYG claim you're defending:

No one was talking about R&D, retail store, data center overhead, etc. so maybe if you re-read the initial claim and response in context you'll understand better?

So let's say they spent at least ten billion USD on the iPads so far. I don't know any exact numbers and I don't really care.

That's a net revenue of $12.3b and net profit of $2.3b. I wouldn't call that tiny at all...

Hell, a local company I was working for made a net profit of $10.00 for the whole year. Now that's tiny.

SlayVus fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Feb 29, 2012

McLarenF1
Jan 9, 2004

Looking to Buy a McLaren, Anyone Selling One .... Cheap?
I know someone asked about it before, but I'm too lazy to find the post.

The new Asus Transformer Infinity and 700 series will have keyboard docks, and my personal guess is that they will not be compatible with the older version keyboards from the OG Transformer or the Prime as the sizes are just slightly different (based on this comparison chart). I could be wrong, but I guess I'll be looking for a discounted keyboard dock now that the Prime is discontinued and the docks are only good for the Prime.

Dodoman
Feb 26, 2009



A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret
Lipstick Apathy

Secret Sweater posted:

I think he was looking for Android exclusive apps, of which most (all?) of those are not.

A quarter (more if you include the Tegrazone stuff) is Android exclusive :unsmith:.

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

Dodoman posted:

A quarter (more if you include the Tegrazone stuff) is Android exclusive :unsmith:.

Yeah I've been slowly sorting through the list, some of this poo poo is pretty radical.

I also had my first :aaa:android!!:aaa: moment when i realized i could use it as mass storage to bring a couple movies over to my girlfriends house and play them on her TV with ease instead of having to worry about software poo poo.

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx

randyest posted:

You're so right, as long as you completely ignore context and consider 23% margin to be "tiny" and agree with the claim that ipads at launch are sold "for the cost of parts and manufacture" which is the claim to which I replied. Here it is again so you can revel in the awesome IYG claim you're defending:

You replied to that post:

randyest posted:

iPad2 launched on 3/11/2011 at $729 for the 32G 3G model and on 3/13/2011 iSuppli tore it down and put the BOM at $326 for the 32G/3G model. That's a cost of $403, or ~55% profit. Add in manufacturing and that's only another ~$7.

This is wrong and dumb all on its own, no matter how wrong and dumb the original post was as well. Readers can't be expected to follow the chain of wrong and dumb for every post in this thread all the way back to its roots.

randyest
Sep 1, 2004

by R. Guyovich

Internaut! posted:

This is wrong and dumb all on its own, no matter how wrong and dumb the original post was as well. Readers can't be expected to follow the chain of wrong and dumb for every post in this thread all the way back to its roots.
Sorry you can't follow the context of a reply that even quoted the post it was in response to. That is neither wrong nor dumb. It's perfectly reasonable to comsider per unit profit without including R&D and every other overhead/expense for certain types of discussions. Such as one where someone says the per unit profit is tiny.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

Kirk posted:

Yeah I've been slowly sorting through the list, some of this poo poo is pretty radical.

I also had my first :aaa:android!!:aaa: moment when i realized i could use it as mass storage to bring a couple movies over to my girlfriends house and play them on her TV with ease instead of having to worry about software poo poo.

Can't tell if you're being serious or not, one of the USB modes is called 'mass storage.'

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003

Secret Sweater posted:

Can't tell if you're being serious or not, one of the USB modes is called 'mass storage.'

Well I hadn't actually plugged it into a PC until yesterday :v:

blackflare
Dec 6, 2004

I am a Purrrfect Princess

Hey android people I was browsing deal extreme and this made me think of you:
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/android-mini-collectible-series-action-figure-doll-android-04-black-white-71608

Look at that poo poo, theres sick black flourishes all over it.

EDITED FOR FLOURISHES

blackflare fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Mar 1, 2012

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup
Those are flourishes. And who the gently caress would buy that piece of poo poo?

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.
Slow night in YOSPOS? Jesus Christ.


Anyone with a Google TV; check out Able Remote. It has really intuitive gesture support and voice command support. I haven't tested the voice stuff since I feel silly talking to inanimate objects, but reviews are favorable. The free version is good enough, but the pay version lets you edit button layouts and such. Not tablet native, but it resizes gracefully.

I use the hell out of Evernote, but the "make notebooks available offline" feature won't automatically download attachments. Anyone know of a workaround?

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Kynetx posted:

Slow night in YOSPOS? Jesus Christ.
What are you even on about now?

Kynetx
Jan 8, 2003


Full of ignorant tribalism. Kinda sad.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

What are you even on about now?

Sorry, misread.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
I wish Samsung would get the hell on with things and announce their next-gen tablet that isn't the Galaxy Tab 2/Note. The longer we don't hear any clarification or updates about a next-gen Sammy tablet, the more I suspect those 2560x1600 screens that were being made are actually for the iPad.

Kirk
Sep 22, 2003
I was out buying an SD Card for the Xoom today, and I got to play with a Transformer Prime at the store. There were actually two, but one couldn't turn on. The other one was AMAZING. Holy poo poo that thing is fast, and I thought the Xoom was smooth with ICS. I was extremely tempted to buy it right then and there, but I'm holding out for the Transformer Infinity... which has no release date announced.

drat you Asus.

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butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

ClubmanGT posted:

I wish Samsung would get the hell on with things and announce their next-gen tablet that isn't the Galaxy Tab 2/Note. The longer we don't hear any clarification or updates about a next-gen Sammy tablet, the more I suspect those 2560x1600 screens that were being made are actually for the iPad.

The iPad3 is already confirmed to have a 2048x1536 screen. The 16:10 aspect ratio is more of an Android thing, anyway. Where are you reading about 2560x1600 panels?

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