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Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Wili posted:

Speaking of which, Tyrion is still carying around that magic mushroom he picked in the first chapter, isn't he? Can't wait for the payoff for that little detail, I am sure it will be fascinating :allears:

That turns him into Super Tyrion, i.e. from a dwarf to average human size.

Joramun fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Feb 28, 2012

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Mediant
Dec 23, 2010

In Brightest Day...
In Dankest Night...

Factor_VIII posted:

It's setting the scene for the spinoff series of novels where a young Tyrion visits the Mushroom Kingdom.

Of course! He's not a dwarf. He's a Toad. He's the fabled Uncapped Mushroom Prince! Finally that Nintendo/GRRM crossover we've all been waiting for!~ :iamafag:

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

savinhill posted:

Didn't he use it when everyone had the diarrhea plague to put someone out of their misery?

He used it to poison that one dickhead slavemaster guy or whatever right before he escaped to those mercenaries.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

Joramun posted:

That turns him into Super Thyrion, i.e. from a dwarf to average human size.
Anytime Tyrion gets close to Dany, Drogon's going to snatch her up and fly her further away from the main plotline.

zocio
Nov 3, 2011
When will we get the musicians of Bremen spinoff with Pretty Pig, Ser Pounce, Dog and Maester?

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Rurik posted:

I wonder what Sansa's future might possibly be. Since it seems unlikely that she'll become a master schemer at any point (she's still a moron after all), what's left, Littlefinger's wife?

To perfect her sculpting and become the greatest snow artist Westeros has ever known.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

smarion2 posted:

Hm I don't really remember any references about how he was always fascinated by dragons and knew a bunch about them before aDWD.

There's been speculation ever since AGoT that his interest in dragons coupled with his skills at designing specialised saddles meant that he would eventually end up with Dany's dragons.

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

Junkenstein posted:

There's been speculation ever since AGoT that his interest in dragons coupled with his skills at designing specialised saddles meant that he would eventually end up with Dany's dragons.
The worst fan speculation was some people going "Tyrion likes dragons, therefore he must be a secret Targ". As if someone has to be a Targ to be interested in dragons.

Wili
Apr 7, 2010

ppppbbbbtttthhhhhhttppp!

Factor_VIII posted:

The worst fan speculation was some people going "Tyrion likes dragons, therefore he must be a secret Targ". As if someone has to be a Targ to be interested in dragons.

Ironically enough, Targs are the only ones that get close enough to dragons to be aware that they actually are pretty boring and uninteresting.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

I'm assuming Victarion is being used as a vehicle to transport the Meerenese subplot to Westeros, plus add his own threading to the already tangled web a la magic dragon horn. In light of this, do you think GRRM will devote time to the Tattered Prince and his Pentos ambitions? It would bring Dany full circle in her journey, assuming he doesn't decide to throw her even further east for some inexplicable reason.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Aurubin posted:

In light of this, do you think GRRM will devote time to the Tattered Prince and his Pentos ambitions? It would bring Dany full circle in her journey, assuming he doesn't decide to throw her even further east for some inexplicable reason.

:golfclap:

Masterful troll, sir.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

whowhatwhere posted:

:golfclap:

Masterful troll, sir.

I could claim subtlety in writing but that's never been my style. Bringing her to Pentos and loving it up for the sake of practicality would make sense, if but to continue the lessons Dany is supposed to be learning about the nature of rule. I would honestly laugh if she somehow ends up going to Asshai. But even then I can save save this. Victarion is a Viking expy right? Circumnavigate the world! End up in the Iron Isles from the east, with vivid descriptions of all pastries and salted meats along the way.

Maytag
Nov 4, 2006

it's enough that it all be filled with that majestic sadness that is the pleasure of tragedy.
Maybe an awesome author will finish the series for GRRM and just release it anonymously over the internet so nobody can be sued.

Eat it you fat gently caress.

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

Rurik posted:

I'm reminded of The Dark Tower. I waited for years for the last books to come out. Then they did. I wished they hadn't.

Not the first time this comparison has been made, nor I expect the last time.

bigmcgaffney posted:

Also what the gently caress was with him suddenly being a master plumber with that Lannisport pipes story being told over and over again?

Man, gently caress Tyrion.

He studied plumbing while learning cyvasse from the great masters.



edit: JESUS CHRIST WHY AM I DRAGGING MY FEET ON SELLING MIIIINNNNEEEEEEEEEEE?!?!?!?!

Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 29, 2012

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I just like how GRRM apparently wanted Dany stuck back with the loving Dothraki, making GBS threads blood and berries or whatever, after wasting an entire book (technically two) maneuvering Tyrion close to her. I get almost everyone else being where they are at the end of ADwD, save Dany.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.
I think he's setting up Tyrion to tame Viserion where Quentyn couldn't, and wants Dany out of the way for that.

Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Joramun posted:

I think he's setting up Tyrion to tame Viserion where Quentyn couldn't, and wants Dany out of the way for that.

I think he's setting up Daario to tame Dany where Jorah coudln't, and wants Tyrion out of the way for that.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Only ~~my Daario~~ ever could. The new Khal will try but Dany will make fun of his manhood or something, and just when he thinks he's got Dany dead to rights ~~Daario~~ will come riding up on a saddle Tyrion built for Viserion and cut his neck open whilst fondling the hilts of his swords.....

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

Joramun posted:

To perfect her sculpting and become the greatest snow artist Westeros has ever known.

"The snow fell, and the castle rose." Is still the most stunning imagery I've come across in the series.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Azure_Horizon posted:

"The snow fell, and the castle rose." Is still the most stunning imagery I've come across in the series.

Whose penis is that referring to?

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

IRQ posted:

Whose penis is that referring to?

Has to be Hodor

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

IRQ posted:

Whose penis is that referring to?

Castle is a euphemism for penis?

PrBacterio
Jul 19, 2000

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

And then there's this blog post, a fairly funny critique of George "Rape Rape" Martin's opus.
You know what, she's actually absolutely correct about all of her points that she brings up in that blog post. Not that it matters :geno:

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

IRQ posted:

Whose penis is that referring to?
Since it's Sansa I'd say Littlefinger. Though if his nickname is a euphemism for his private parts then a castle metaphor may be ill-fitting.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Azure_Horizon posted:

Castle is a euphemism for penis?

In well-written literature everything is either a penis, vagina, or frustration related to one or both of those.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

mind the walrus posted:

In A Sword of Ice and Fire everything is either a penis, lemon cakes or rape.

Fixed.

If it's a penis metaphor, it's either Littlefinger's big finger, or the metaphorical penis of the Targaryen rising as they make their return to the throne.

But I think it's just a snow castle, so it probably falls into the lemoncake category.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

PrBacterio posted:

You know what, she's actually absolutely correct about all of her points that she brings up in that blog post. Not that it matters :geno:

It's for sure telling of GRRM's thought process of what "medieval world" is like. I don't think it says anything towards how he feels about women or how he treats them, but perhaps it's indicative of what he feels the world used to be, and he just keeps writing scenes that disturb him, like horror writers who purposely write things that terrify them.

I'm sure someone else would write a story set in Medieval Land where everyone's just a subsistance farmer and there's no rape mentioned or depicted at all, all they care about is barter economies and the feudal system. And that's just as legitimate as GRRM's land of Westerape.

smarion2
Apr 22, 2010
Ah I never read the first book. I should probably get around to it seeing how much I probably missed.

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

PrBacterio posted:

You know what, she's actually absolutely correct about all of her points that she brings up in that blog post. Not that it matters :geno:
I'd say she exaggerates or distorts a number of things in order to make her article more provocative. E.g. Cersei didn't "scheme her way into dominating an entire continent"; Tywin was about to ship her back to Lannisport and then marry her off to some random noble and she could do nothing about it. She only gained power because Tyrion killed him off and left a power vacuum.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

mind the walrus posted:

In well-written literature everything is either a penis, vagina, or frustration related to one or both of those.

My English major never taught me this!

This should have been in the boot camp classes, instead of goddamn Judith or Beowulf

Mediant
Dec 23, 2010

In Brightest Day...
In Dankest Night...

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I'm sure someone else would write a story set in Medieval Land where everyone's just a subsistance farmer and there's no rape mentioned or depicted at all, all they care about is barter economies and the feudal system. And that's just as legitimate as GRRM's land of Westerape.

Yeah. Legitimately boring! :smuggo::respek::smuggo:

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I'm sure someone else would write a story set in Medieval Land where everyone's just a subsistance farmer and there's no rape mentioned or depicted at all, all they care about is barter economies and the feudal system. And that's just as legitimate as GRRM's land of Westerape.

But society-wide barter economies never existe----ooohhhh, gotcha.

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

Mediant posted:

Of course! He's not a dwarf. He's a Toad. He's the fabled Uncapped Mushroom Prince! Finally that Nintendo/GRRM crossover we've all been waiting for!~ :iamafag:

"Sorry Tyrion, but your whore is in another keep!" :v:

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince

Comrade Koba posted:

"Sorry Tyrion, but your whore is in another keep!" :v:
Would Jaime be Luigi though? Actually he might, since Luigi is taller than Mario. Behold the plumber bros! The debauched dwarf and his wacky big bro, the one-handed kinfucker!

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

whowhatwhere posted:

But society-wide barter economies never existe----ooohhhh, gotcha.

Hey, man, it's a fantasy. Boring vikings never existed, either.

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

Rurik posted:

Would Jaime be Luigi though? Actually he might, since Luigi is taller than Mario. Behold the plumber bros! The debauched dwarf and his wacky big bro, the one-handed kinfucker!
I guess Dany would be King Koopa due to her association with dragons? Though I don't think she'd be spraying her enemies with fire.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back
Well, I suppose she could light her diarrhea on fire on its way out.

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince

Factor_VIII posted:

I guess Dany would be King Koopa due to her association with dragons? Though I don't think she'd be spraying her enemies with fire.
Dany is pretty Peachy with her blonde hair and being a princess (queen) thing, but if we keep up with this analogy, she can't be her. Who's HI I'M DAISY however?

Factor_VIII
Feb 2, 2005

Les soldats se trouvent dans la vérité.

Rurik posted:

Dany is pretty Peachy with her blonde hair and being a princess (queen) thing, but if we keep up with this analogy, she can't be her. Who's HI I'M DAISY however?
Asha? She's a princess after all and Daisy is said to be a tomboy.

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Stay Safe
Sep 1, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Azure_Horizon posted:

My English major never taught me this!

This should have been in the boot camp classes, instead of goddamn Judith or Beowulf

My English major program taught me that white men are evil as gently caress.

*reads ASOIAF*

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