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Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Cabbit posted:

Makes me wonder if human God Tiers are going to all have unassisted flight, or if that's just gonna be John's thing. Superheroes are probably the closest thing modern western civilization has to the sort of demigod-mythos the troll-wings-thing is pulling from. They're certainly not going all Greecian/Roman Gods on us.

Rose and Dave were flying when they emerged from the Green Sun.

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MrBims
Sep 25, 2007

by Ralp

Cabbit posted:

Makes me wonder if human God Tiers are going to all have unassisted flight, or if that's just gonna be John's thing. Superheroes are probably the closest thing modern western civilization has to the sort of demigod-mythos the troll-wings-thing is pulling from. They're certainly not going all Greecian/Roman Gods on us.

It is Dreamselves that fly. All of them.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

The problem is that the Green Sun exists in the furthest ring, and we don't know for sure that everything doesn't just float out there normally. In a big floaty void-like place where time and space work differently, it's hard to guess exactly where gravity lies in that equation.

Edit: VVV I was responding to Bongo Bill's post actually, but I forgot for a moment that reply is not the same as quote.

Midnight Raider fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Mar 1, 2012

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
But dreamselves also fly while they're in the session. All the time.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
White eyes have been edited onto lil' Batterwitch.

I know that the mechanics of dream bubbles haven't been completely explored, but maybe these new trolls "escaped" the scratch by being dead? Their deaths could have been what pushed the others into the decision to cause a scratch.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007
Given that dreamselves can fly unassisted, and that everyone it's their dreamselves that become their God Tier selves, then yes I assume all God Tiers can fly.

TOAST7312
Oct 18, 2010

AT: uHHH, nO DAD NO!
I believe Hussie stated somewhere unequivocally that all God-Tiers can fly, wings or no, but I may be mistaken. Rare is the time when things in Homestuck are stated overtly as fact when they are in fact true.

Falls Down Stairs
Nov 2, 2008

IT KEEPS HAPPENING
I have finally caught up with Homestuck after giving it a break a while back.

What's all this A1 B2 lingo etc. y'all kids have taken to using, I'm presuming its to give proper designation to the absolute embarrassment of alternate realities that are involved at this point, but which letternumbers refer to which?

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Falls Down Stairs posted:

I have finally caught up with Homestuck after giving it a break a while back.

What's all this A1 B2 lingo etc. y'all kids have taken to using, I'm presuming its to give proper designation to the absolute embarrassment of alternate realities that are involved at this point, but which letternumbers refer to which?

It's from one of the Q&As with Hussie, thought I don't remember if it was Formspring or Tumblr.

A1 - Original Alternia (that got Scratched)
A2 - Post-Scratch Alternia (this is where the Trolls are from)
B1 - Earth (John, Jade, Rose, Dave)
B2 - Post-Scratch Earth (Jane, Roxy, Dirk, Jake)

firestruck
Dec 28, 2010

nullify me

Falls Down Stairs posted:

I have finally caught up with Homestuck after giving it a break a while back.

What's all this A1 B2 lingo etc. y'all kids have taken to using, I'm presuming its to give proper designation to the absolute embarrassment of alternate realities that are involved at this point, but which letternumbers refer to which?


A1: Troll ancestor's universe
A2: Troll universe
B1: Kid's ancestor's universe
B2: Kid's universe

B1 and B2 might be switched. Not entirely sure about that one.

Edit: yep, I got it wrong. Oh well.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
Actually, it came from one of the first UU pesterlogs.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

Cabbit posted:

Makes me wonder if human God Tiers are going to all have unassisted flight, or if that's just gonna be John's thing. Superheroes are probably the closest thing modern western civilization has to the sort of demigod-mythos the troll-wings-thing is pulling from. They're certainly not going all Greecian/Roman Gods on us.

If you dig back into ancient mythical figures I think you'll find that the most common physical signifiers are either 1) prodigious facial hair or 2) animal heads.

Jade's got the animal head thing on the lock, but it's clear the other three kids need to grow impressive beards.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
Karkat said that all the trolls got to fly except for him for some reason.

quote:

CG: EVERY DOUCHE GOT TO FLY BUT ME, EVEN THE CRIPPLE.

I don't know why he didn't alchemize a flying machine of some sort.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
Karkat didn't get to fly because he never went to sleep and woke up on Prospit until basically a second before Jack destroyed it and killed his dreamself.

KoB
May 1, 2009

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

Karkat said that all the trolls got to fly except for him for some reason.

Everyone else woke up on Prospit/Derse. When he finally woke up, Jack was already staring him down.

Strongylocentrotus
Jan 24, 2007

Nab him, jab him, tab him, grab him - stop that pigeon NOW!
HEY DIRK, WANNA PLAY A LITTLE GAME?

Sooo. We meet UU's "brother" at last, I guess.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
We've got another new character. Wonder what this one's purpose is.

EDIT: "undyingUmbrage [uu] began jeering timaeusTestified [TT]"

At least he's not trolling Dirk.

VERY COOL MAN
Jun 24, 2011

THESE PACKETS ARE... SUMMARILY DEALT WITH
Oh my god, Hussie's ridiculous SAW parody is now an actual plot-relevant piece of Homestuck. I just... life is beautiful.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 29 hours!
Thats the symbol for the thirteenth star sign, isn't it? Just making sure here.

Boneless Jogger
Apr 20, 2010

The Fucky posted:

Oh my god, Hussie's ridiculous SAW parody is now an actual plot-relevant piece of Homestuck. I just... life is beautiful.

I'm only saddened that undyingUmbridge probably doesn't want Dirk to draw muppet porn. Probably.

closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005

The Fucky posted:

Oh my god, Hussie's ridiculous SAW parody is now an actual plot-relevant piece of Homestuck. I just... life is beautiful.

That's the first thing I thought when I saw that. At this point, he's pretty much called back to every forum-related joke (like the Wizard book) he made before starting Homestuck. Here's to hoping this character will ask Dirk to do something like draw some Smuppet or SBaHJ porn. :v:

Boneless Jogger posted:

I'm only saddened that undyingUmbridge probably doesn't want Dirk to draw muppet porn. Probably.

Don't give up this early. :(

VERY COOL MAN
Jun 24, 2011

THESE PACKETS ARE... SUMMARILY DEALT WITH

closeted republican posted:

That's the first thing I thought when I saw that. At this point, he's pretty much called back to every forum-related joke (like the Wizard book) he made before starting Homestuck. Here's to hoping this character will ask Dirk to do something like draw some Smuppet or SBaHJ porn. :v:


Don't give up this early. :(

In-canon, original vanilla Bro drew at least the "Animal" part of the Saw story. So I wouldn't discount this at all.

QVC Drinking Game
Jun 23, 2005
"tumut"? Is that supposed to be an emoticon or something? I can't parse it.

Starmaker
Dec 29, 2009

My people I bring you a message from the Lord!
I was expecting her brother to be Cetus.

I wonder if they're the same person. You know, the androgyny thing. One's a sycophant and the other's an rear end in a top hat.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Starmaker posted:

I was expecting her brother to be Cetus.

I wonder if they're the same person. You know, the androgyny thing. One's a sycophant and the other's an rear end in a top hat.

You thought UU's brother was Rose's Denizen? :crossarms:

Starmaker
Dec 29, 2009

My people I bring you a message from the Lord!
Cetus is the "14th" zodiac.

(Or the closest thing to it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetus)

Zutaten
May 8, 2007

What the shit.

QVC Drinking Game posted:

"tumut"? Is that supposed to be an emoticon or something? I can't parse it.

Yeah.

Something like this:



Double flip-offs and a goofy face.

It's also a town in Australia, if that turns out to be relevant.

notoriousman
Nov 18, 2007

I'M AWARE I'M
AN IDIOT

QVC Drinking Game posted:

"tumut"? Is that supposed to be an emoticon or something? I can't parse it.
uranianUmbra used 'u' as eyes in many emoticons, and 't' is flipping the bird, so maybe 'm' represents some massive underbite/tusks?

Guess this is also a parallel to Gamzee's split personality, except these seem to be unaware of the other and even use separate chum handles.

Edit: Beaten to the punch, with an illustration no less.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

QVC Drinking Game posted:

"tumut"? Is that supposed to be an emoticon or something? I can't parse it.

I'm not sure but I think the t's are hands/arms flipping the bird, the u's are closed eyes (happy UU used them like this a few times) and the m is... a nose? horns? something to do with Jigsaw of Saw fame? I'm not sure.

edit: well poo poo

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Hm. Well put.

So now we've got a UU and a uu. The latter has an Ophiuchus astrological symbol in dark gray and red, while the former's symbol is Caduceus in light gray and glowing green. Both their names refer to shadows; one is "Uranian" which could mean genderless or could mean heavenly (in reference to Uranus, chief of the protogenoi and embodiment of heaven), while the other is "Undying," which is certainly ominous, especially in light of all the spooky ghosts we've seen around here lately.

UU speaks with green text suggesting a blood color that corresponds to the one that Karkat would likely have had if he weren't a red-blooded mutant, whereas uu uses a shade of gray, much like Karkat did to hide the color of his blood; the red in his symbol matches Karkat's color, as well. Both have ties to him, in a twist that is sure to be of paramount significance in due time. Parallel personalities are a possibility and are not unprecedented.

What is "tumut"?

Starmaker
Dec 29, 2009

My people I bring you a message from the Lord!
UU typed in grey as well, but a lighter shade.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Starmaker posted:

UU typed in grey as well, but a lighter shade.

Oh, right. Where did we get the idea that UU's blood is green, then?

uu: #323232
CG: #626262
UU: #929292

Both equidistant from Karkat. As if we needed any more connections.

KoB
May 1, 2009

Bongo Bill posted:

Oh, right. Where did we get the idea that UU's blood is green, then?

uu: #323232
CG: #626262
UU: #929292

Both equidistant from Karkat. As if we needed any more connections.

Hussie confirmed that theres a 13th hemospectrum between (I think) Kanaya and Nepeta. So it was an assumption from there.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

KoB posted:

Hussie confirmed that theres a 13th hemospectrum between (I think) Kanaya and Nepeta. So it was an assumption from there.

Also the Caduceus above UU's terminal was bright green.

Oh wait baseless speculation time- I'm going to guess that uu's horns will be ~unique~ like so many of the lovely fantrolls, and be two different sets. One set will make the U shape, like Tavros' but more rounded, the other will be a pair of ~'s, just below or behind the first or something.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
It's between Sollux and Nepeta, the yellowish shade of green shown here

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

I'll admit, I wasn't that interested in another UU pesterlog.. ...But a uu pesterlog looks promising.

Boneless Jogger posted:

I'm only saddened that undyingUmbridge probably doesn't want Dirk to draw muppet porn. Probably.

Dirk would probably draw it on his own initiative and give it to someone regardless. As mentioned, I think Pre-Scratch Bro did that to Dave.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Also, note, uu is not 'pestering' like a human, 'trolling' like a troll, or 'cheering' like UU, but 'jeering'.

cheering/jeering, another opposite.

GloriousDemon
May 1, 2009
If uu is in fact the opposite of UU, his horns will be the the opposing shape of snakes.... MONGOOSES!

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 29 hours!
In no more than two pages, uu has become one of my favorite characters in the entire comic.

I think this is a more accurate display of the fandom than UU is.

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closeted republican
Sep 9, 2005
Theory: UU represents the fangirl side of the Homestuck fandom, while uu represents the fandom that that reads it for the plot and don't care much for things like shipping.

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