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Slung Blade posted:I should have gone with a metal roof from the start. gently caress. Only if you don't get hail. We've got a few around here (ne Oklahoma) that look awful thanks to the million small dents.
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laod posted:Only if you don't get hail. We've got a few around here (ne Oklahoma) that look awful thanks to the million small dents. Speed holes, makes the house go faster.  No, honestly, I don't care about dents, I just want it to last 20 years or more.
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Feb 28, 2012 22:21
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laod posted:Only if you don't get hail. We've got a few around here (ne Oklahoma) that look awful thanks to the million small dents. That's when you tell the supplier to gently caress the pussy 26 gauge poo poo and install a 10 gauge roof.
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Feb 29, 2012 02:29
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Slung Blade posted:No, honestly, I don't care about dents, I just want it to last 20 years or more. Who really looks that closely at a roof anyway? Dents, schments.
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Feb 29, 2012 10:42
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madlilnerd posted:Who really looks that closely at a roof anyway? Dents, schments. People on the Great Plains. It really is silly to get a metal roof there, because the whole point of a metal roof is that you pay a fuckton of money, but then it lasts forever. But not through a major hail storm. Nothing is immune to the power of hail! standard roofing shingles:  stone:  or metal:  These pics and video are all from Oklahoma:      And finally, video, because that's what is truly impressive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFv2W7Duqiw My mother lost a roof, one window, and all vegetation in her yard in this storm.
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Feb 29, 2012 15:24
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quote:Saturn's dent resistant panels...not so much hole resistant.
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Feb 29, 2012 15:39
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thecobra posted:Saturn's dent resistant panels...not so much hole resistant.
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Feb 29, 2012 16:24
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Costello Jello posted:or metal: First off, I think that looks kind of rustic and quaint. Secondly, why do people live in these places?! Every time I see on the news "X has suffered another hurricane", "Y has had 20 foot of snow this winter" I wonder why on earth people live in these places, especially when these natural phenomenon have been going on since people settled there. But seriously, why would you live where tennis balls made of ice fall from the sky?
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Feb 29, 2012 23:48
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madlilnerd posted:But seriously, why would you live where tennis balls made of ice fall from the sky? Well, you can get a house for $200,000 that would cost $600,000 in a place that hasn't been forsaken by God and colonized by hillbillies.
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Mar 1, 2012 00:17
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madlilnerd posted:First off, I think that looks kind of rustic and quaint. Secondly, why do people live in these places?! Every time I see on the news "X has suffered another hurricane", "Y has had 20 foot of snow this winter" I wonder why on earth people live in these places, especially when these natural phenomenon have been going on since people settled there.
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Mar 1, 2012 10:04
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How bout a real steel roof- Colourbond Corrugated iron, rather than those tin shingles things? One of the few things that will actually stand up to the hail storms in Australia- Tiles, slates all get shattered.
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Mar 1, 2012 13:40
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When I pictured metal roofing I was thinking the vertical steel panel stuff, I didn't know metal shakes were still a thing people used.
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Mar 1, 2012 14:36
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Amstrad posted:When I pictured metal roofing I was thinking the vertical steel panel stuff, I didn't know metal shakes were still a thing people used. Yup, and they are crazy expensive. I'm going to be replacing my roof this spring/summer and everyone says, "You should get a metal roof, they last forever". The vertical steel stuff looks like it should be on a barn, and the metal shakes are waaaay out of my price range. I'm going to be going with shingles, and don't really care if I have to replace them once before I die.
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Mar 1, 2012 15:21
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Blistex posted:The vertical steel stuff looks like it should be on a barn Standing seam roofs can look really good on the right house, but that usually means a more modern design that was built specifically with that style of roof in mind.
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Mar 1, 2012 16:49
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Blistex posted:Yup, and they are crazy expensive. I'm going to be replacing my roof this spring/summer and everyone says, "You should get a metal roof, they last forever". The vertical steel stuff looks like it should be on a barn, and the metal shakes are waaaay out of my price range. I'm going to be going with shingles, and don't really care if I have to replace them once before I die. I've seen a few places done with this stuff around here, looks pretty nice http://www.nordman.ie/pdfs/nordman_domestic.pdf I dont know how well it'd hold up to megahail though
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If this happens again, I'm going to incorporate as a restoration contractor and build an i-beam skeletal cage for the roof and weld 1/4" mild steel plate to it. Gonna have the rustiest house on the block.
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Mar 1, 2012 20:38
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Oooh, imagine an iron oxide red house glowing as the sun sets. Then imagine a lifetime of tetanus top ups every time you cut yourself on your house.
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Mar 1, 2012 21:06
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Considering how often I play with metal I should probably be more diligent about my immunization anyway. I think the last time I got a tetanus booster was when I was a little kid, I should really go back and get another.
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Mar 1, 2012 22:09
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Tetanus doesn't actually come from rust, the most common place you find the bacteria that cause it is in soil and animal poo poo. Dirty rust just has a large surface area so makes a good breeding ground for the stuff and is often still sharp enough to cut you and get the crap straight past your defences. You're supposed to get a tetanus booster every 10 years to be safe and it's really worth doing because tetanus loving sucks and can kill you. Painfully. So remember goons- be wise, immunise!  I will shut up about soil borne bacteria now.
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Mar 1, 2012 22:30
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Slung Blade posted:Considering how often I play with metal I should probably be more diligent about my immunization anyway. Here, read this post. I guarantee after reading it you'll have an appointment with your doctor tomorrow. 
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echomadman posted:I've seen a few places done with this stuff around here, looks pretty nice http://www.nordman.ie/pdfs/nordman_domestic.pdf I dont know how well it'd hold up to megahail though Yah, the faux metal tile or shakes look nice, but I'm talking more about this suff that shouldn't be allowed within sight of any roadway. 
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Blistex posted:Yah, the faux metal tile or shakes look nice, but I'm talking more about this suff that shouldn't be allowed within sight of any roadway. a lot of farmhouses around here use pole barn steel for the roof, and every once and a while for siding too, and It's a rare occasion that it looks decent. Granted, the farmers putting on usually don't give two shits how it looks as long as it's durable. Either way, a good color scheme can make it look surprisingly acceptable.
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A huge number of homes in Australia use this stuff- Colorbond steel, generally in just corrugated pattern This and Zincalume are probably the most common roofing material in australia- since the other option is Cement Tiles, which add another 4 tonnes of weight to your roof and cost a fortune!
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That looks like it would get blazingly hot every day. If you can paint your roof any color, why wouldn't you pick a light or white color for better thermal efficiency?
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Leperflesh posted:That looks like it would get blazingly hot every day. If you can paint your roof any color, why wouldn't you pick a light or white color for better thermal efficiency? Because it won't look pretty! 
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yeah, I imagine white roofs look really grubby really fast. All kinds of grot would collect in the grooves.
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Insulation on top of the ceiling tends to trap most heat in the cavity. Also handy on cooler evenings/days if you have a system that pulls the heat from the cavity. Free heating.
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Yeah- most aussie homes dont have an attic as such, its just an airspace full of dead rodents and dust- so you have a sarking layer under the tin, then rockwool or similar on the ceiling itself, Chuck in a vent or two and its impressive how cool a tin roofed house can stay.
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Blistex posted:Yah, the faux metal tile or shakes look nice, but I'm talking more about this suff that shouldn't be allowed within sight of any roadway. I have actually seen this type of roofing (though generally in a dark green color) on many log cabins throughout Tennessee and among natural vegetation and with the wood I don't think it looks terrible. Definitely durable. I do agree if you just had this on a house in a middle of a normal suburb that it would stick out like a soar thumb.
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Your perspectives on standing seam metal are fascinating to me. Out here in Oregon it's considered a nice roof. Step up from comp shingles, step down from a proper tile job. We install them as facades on commercial buildings and on a fair number of quite nice houses--mostly slightly out of town proper, but then most of the houses out of the towns proper are pretty nice. Lot more inquiries than installations; the price tends to disappoint people. They're VERY common on places in the woods and on the other side of the mountains, as they shed leaf litter and snow extremely well. Comp is either a moss roof inside a couple years or a constant battle in this climate under any trees.
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I visited Iceland and a lot of their houses are painted bright colors but the siding and/or roofing is corrugated metal. I thought it looked really neat. Here's a picture I found 
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Corrugated metal roofs are a godsend in really snowy country. They'll melt off the snow faster and won't allow quite the buildup that wood can.
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Jordanis posted:Your perspectives on standing seam metal are fascinating to me. Out here in Oregon it's considered a nice roof. Step up from comp shingles, step down from a proper tile job. We install them as facades on commercial buildings and on a fair number of quite nice houses--mostly slightly out of town proper, but then most of the houses out of the towns proper are pretty nice. Lot more inquiries than installations; the price tends to disappoint people. The problem where I live (Northern Ontario) is that this type of metal roof is usually reserved for garages, barns, warehouses, stores, and out of the way cabins. We start to associate them with those types of buildings, so whenever some of us see them on houses, it looks cheap or ugly. That's just our shortcoming I guess. As for shingle roofs near or under trees, I find a mixture of bleach + water, a ladder, and a spray twice a summer does a good job keeping the moss from taking hold. I'd go for one of those metal roofs with the faux shingles any day, but I just can't afford to do it. For that price I could re-shingle my roof with regular tar shingles probably 3-4 times.
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Ferremit posted:since the other option is Cement Tiles, which add another 4 tonnes of weight to your roof and cost a fortune! Not sure bout the fortune, but they last 30yrs +.. I think we've had to replace exactly 12 tiles (at something like $4 per) since 1979 in North-Central Texas which gets its share of hailstorms..
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Initial costs are staggering around Aus- Im pricing up a home at the moment (thread to come later!) and cement tiles are about $4.50 each, and theres something like 10 of them to the square meter, plus timber supports etc and you can buy a sheet of colourbond 3.6m long by 900mm wide for about $50...
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Plus_Infinity posted:I visited Iceland and a lot of their houses are painted bright colors but the siding and/or roofing is corrugated metal. I thought it looked really neat. Homes in Iceland got to be that way because they used surplus marine paint to do their homes. I wonder if a layer of thatch would protect against hail.
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Blistex posted:As for shingle roofs near or under trees, I find a mixture of bleach + water, a ladder, and a spray twice a summer does a good job keeping the moss from taking hold. Powdered laundry soap, by the way, works real well. This is still way more maintenance than we find most homeowners actually loving doing around here, and that usually goes double for rental owners.
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Jordanis posted:Powdered laundry soap, by the way, works real well. This is still way more maintenance than we find most homeowners actually loving doing around here, and that usually goes double for rental owners.
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If you were truly dedicated to your roof you'd be up there with a toothbrush, no questions asked.
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Vander posted:Corrugated metal roofs are a godsend in really snowy country. They'll melt off the snow faster and won't allow quite the buildup that wood can. Envious whenever I visit outside the country and see places with them, especially when they're painted.
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