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Goddammit. I'm stuck at the last battle of DS1. Anyone have any tips for beating Babel doing Atsuro's route?
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Mar 4, 2012 18:31
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Kraven Moorhed posted:Goddammit. I'm stuck at the last battle of DS1. Anyone have any tips for beating Babel doing Atsuro's route? Devil Survivor 2 Day 7 spoilers: Hahahaha gently caress You Atlus, Null Human, seriously? Axle_Stukov fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Mar 4, 2012 |
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Mar 4, 2012 19:16
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Well, I'm about to play Devil Survivor 2. Any tips you guys can give me? I'm at the first demon fight and I'm really scared where I should distribute my stats. I don't want to get Beldr'd again... Edit: I just distributed the points into Vit and Mag. Did I do the right thing?? Dogbutt fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Mar 4, 2012 |
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Mar 4, 2012 19:30
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Axle_Stukov posted:For the first form, just Holy Dance it to death with a high magic user, or Pierce + strong physicals. Second form always starts off weak to Electricity, so have your MC(if he's magic based) or someone like Amane or Yuzu already where the boss will be and tear into him with Elec Dance powered by Amp/Boost and give them demons with the same setup. You should be able to kill him before he gets his first turn that way. Funny thing is that I was doing that anyways, I just didn't attack the first form fast enough and wasted time on the spawning demons from the consoles. After tossing Victory Call on my MC so I wouldn't run out of MP, I aced it. Time to play DS2!
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Mar 4, 2012 19:56
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Dogbutt posted:I'm at the first demon fight and I'm really scared where I should distribute my stats. I don't want to get Beldr'd again... There's nothing along the lines of punching Beldr to death, so you don't need to worry about that. Fights are harder in general though, in my opinion at least, but you can mitigate that a fair bit come Tuesday. It's possible to pick up a fair few late game skills from one boss then if you use Skill Crack correctly.
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Mar 4, 2012 20:08
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Dogbutt posted:Well, I'm about to play Devil Survivor 2. Any tips you guys can give me? You might want to put a few points in agility beacuse I think some of the elemental void skills require it. It's really tempting to get too attached to that sweet demon you made with a bunch of useful skills, but if it starts dying in one or two shots from common parties replace it by fusion even if the skill set of the next demon isn't as good. [e] Oh, learn Recarm as soon as possible. It may not be obvious, but you can even revive dead party leaders next to the caster. DrManiac fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Mar 4, 2012 |
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Mar 4, 2012 20:28
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You know the biggest thing I'm noticing in DS2 is that the enemies seem buffed. I mean unless they changed something, everything seems to take a lot less damage, like enemies with a low ma stat taking little damage from magic even though in DS1 it could practically one shot them. In a similar manner, even with a high ma stat every spell seems weaker.
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Mar 4, 2012 20:33
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Axle_Stukov posted:
I love how broken the skills are in Devil Survivor. My Mc is pretty much immortal beacuse he is resistant to all damage and gets health from physical.
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Mar 4, 2012 20:36
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Axle_Stukov posted:Devil Survivor 2 Day 7 spoilers: Hahahaha gently caress You Atlus, Null Human, seriously? Followed by What, you thought that was his only gimmick? HAHAHAHAHA. Dogbutt posted:I just distributed the points into Vit and Mag. Did I do the right thing?? I wouldn't bother with Vit on a mage, outside what you need to equip the skills you want. You may want some speed, but generally, I recommend cramming the vast majority of your points into magic until you max it, because you can do hilarious amounts of damage that way. Really, if you've played the first game, you shouldn't have too much trouble with the sequel. vilkacis fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 4, 2012 |
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Mar 4, 2012 20:37
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Well, in my experience days 1-6 of DS2 were easy... but day 7 is just killing me. (Unlike that, DS1 had difficulty spikes all over for me..)
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Mar 4, 2012 20:42
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Ahh, the end of Day 3 in DS2 is just mean. I barely knocked out Ronaldo, had one character left and just had to go for him and leave his demons. Then another Starman smashes through the ceiling. I gave him a drat good thrashing though, as most of my teams ended up with at least a heavy hitter in Magic or Strength. He recombined a lot , I guess that was probably because every time he split I managed to whack one of them before they got any turns, when whichever one it was that was still alive would instantly recombine. Just going along with a Magic MC so far, got three Dance skills so far, then I can recharge with Blood Wine from an Angel and then recharge the Angel's Health with a Jack Frost. Works pretty well. And the Angel has Force Dance and the Frost has Ice and Elec Dance, with MC having Ice, Elec, and Fire, so I can pretty much hit any weakness apart from Physical, which I haven't seen much of yet. McDragon fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Mar 4, 2012 |
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Mar 4, 2012 23:43
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Alteisen posted:You know the biggest thing I'm noticing in DS2 is that the enemies seem buffed. I'm pretty sure that Vitality applies to both physical and magic defense rather than it being split between Vitality and Magic like the first game. Other than that I haven't really noticed a difference in damage.
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Mar 5, 2012 00:46
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Well just got to Merak on Day 2. Everyone Died and now I'm really scared. P.S. Please don't tell me I'm the only one who thinks Daichi is pretty terrible as a character and battler.
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Mar 5, 2012 02:28
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Dogbutt posted:P.S. Please don't tell me I'm the only one who thinks Daichi is pretty terrible as a character and battler. I thought this at first, but then he drove a loving truck into the exploding demon. After that, I can't hate him. Also, Joe seems much, much worse in a fight. His damage has always been the lowest of any of my characters.
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Mar 5, 2012 02:42
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Momomo posted:I thought this at first, but then he drove a loving truck into the exploding demon. After that, I can't hate him. Also, Joe seems much, much worse in a fight. His damage has always been the lowest of any of my characters. That's cause he's all magic and agility. So I'm at day 3, I have a battle but I'm all alone, I assume I should just leave this for a new game+?
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Mar 5, 2012 02:53
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Alteisen posted:That's cause he's all magic and agility. Regarding "that" battle, I was able to handily kill all of the supporting demons on my own. Though after that Ghost Q basically says "gently caress this" and runs away. I tried attacking Ghost Q while there was still one supporting demon team left, and he utterly demolished me before I could even get close enough to attack him, taking multiple turns until I was dead, with no chance for retaliation. So I imagine it's mostly New Game+ material?
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Mar 5, 2012 03:03
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Alteisen posted:So I'm at day 3, I have a battle but I'm all alone, I assume I should just leave this for a new game+? This is definitely doable your first time, because I did it. The leader ran away, but I was still able to kill everything else. Just go on the southeastern path and take each demon on one-by-one. Near the end you might be getting attacked by two, but it shouldn't be that bad.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:05
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Dogbutt posted:Well just got to Merak on Day 2. Everyone Died and now I'm really scared. I don't like Daichi. If you need help against that boss: Blind Sally posted:Playing Devil Survivor 2. The boss on Day 2, Merak , was really giving me trouble until I realized I should ignore his missiles and the other demons, and just rush him - killed him in one try after that. UselessLurker posted:Also, don't end turns in front of him unless you really feel like making the fight tougher than it needs to be. Animal Leg demons make the fight pretty trivial.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:09
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Momomo posted:This is definitely doable your first time, because I did it. The leader ran away, but I was still able to kill everything else. Just go on the southeastern path and take each demon on one-by-one. Near the end you might be getting attacked by two, but it shouldn't be that bad. Yeah I did that as well, but it doesn't "count" unless you actually beat Ghost Q. If you do that, you can fuse him afterwards; making him rout doesn't give you that possibility.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:16
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It's possible to do it the first time. There are a number of second-playthrough-only demons who show up who are very clearly NG+ stuff, but that boss just involves abusing your abilites. It's a huge pain in the rear end for relatively little reward tho'. I believe you can get Joe on your team by telling him to come with you after talking to him, making it a little easier.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:28
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Momomo posted:I thought this at first, but then he drove a loving truck into the exploding demon. After that, I can't hate him. Also, Joe seems much, much worse in a fight. His damage has always been the lowest of any of my characters. I do admit, that act of bravery was pretty rad. Also Joe is actually really good if you give him the right set up. Another thing I forgot. How many endings are in this game anyway?
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Mar 5, 2012 03:30
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Dogbutt posted:I do admit, that act of bravery was pretty rad. Also Joe is actually really good if you give him the right set up. 6, I believe. Ronaldo Yamato Daichi 1 Daichi 2 Daichi True Anguished One
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Mar 5, 2012 03:49
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Just got to Day 5 and... really? Seriously?  find someone sexy? are you kidding me. UselessLurker fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 5, 2012 |
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Mar 5, 2012 03:51
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Pureauthor posted:6, I believe. Are there seriously 3 Daichi ends? That's kind of odd.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:54
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Pureauthor posted:6, I believe. You've got this wrong. There are only two Daichi endings.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:56
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UselessLurker posted:Just got to Day 5 and... really? Seriously? It gets worse. Having my hopes that the writers had shame being gradually dashed as I tried the list of potential non-creepy candidates was a terrible experience.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:57
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Honestly I don't see a better ending than the Ronaldo ending, because since Polaris can make out humanity however he wants, and he makes it out so that everyone helps everyone else, that sounds like utopia to me after all... That may just be my personal opinion though.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:57
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ImpAtom posted:You've got this wrong. There are only two Daichi endings. Good to know, I guess. Less New Game+ing for me.
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Mar 5, 2012 03:59
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Cake Attack posted:It gets worse. I was hoping, at least, that one would be a serious business type where you could basically just go 'sheesh, we need a girl to act sexy because demons are loving weird or something, could you do me a solid here' but nooooooooooope. oh are you loving making GBS threads me the 'right' answer is that. 
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Mar 5, 2012 04:06
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UselessLurker posted:I was hoping, at least, that one would be a serious business type where you could basically just go 'sheesh, we need a girl to act sexy because demons are loving weird or something, could you do me a solid here' but nooooooooooope. the actual scene was a lot better than the lead up led me to believe but yeah... gross as hell. Why not just use Hinako for both? she's barely wearing anything!
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Mar 5, 2012 04:16
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Dogbutt posted:Well just got to Merak on Day 2. Everyone Died and now I'm really scared. He becomes extremely good with late-game physical skills (except against reflect physical enemies); of course I imagine other physical-build characters are comparable.
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Mar 5, 2012 04:21
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Cityinthesea posted:Honestly I don't see a better ending than the Ronaldo ending, because since Polaris can make out humanity however he wants, and he makes it out so that everyone helps everyone else, that sounds like utopia to me after all... That may just be my personal opinion though. It's a utopia as long as you're okay with the fact that nobody will ever be able to advance through their own merit, no matter how hard they try. Some may find that a utopia but to others it would be a hell. It's basically equivalent to a Law ending. Everything is better, as long as you don't mind being under total control and having no freedom.
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Mar 5, 2012 04:27
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What happens in the Daichi True ending anyways. I assume it's the token everything goes back to how it used to be one?
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Mar 5, 2012 04:30
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ImpAtom posted:It's a utopia as long as you're okay with the fact that nobody will ever be able to advance through their own merit, no matter how hard they try. Some may find that a utopia but to others it would be a hell. It's basically equivalent to a Law ending. Everything is better, as long as you don't mind being under total control and having no freedom. Well yeah if it was just them being able to create a complete egalitarian utopia in the real world, but they changed the dispositions of human nature itself with Polaris so everyone would be super happy whether they would actually dislike it or not; and yeah it's probably the law ending but it's probably the most positive spin on a law ending, especially following Strange Journey which was the worst (admittedly I never got the law ending [azume?] from DS1 so I dunno how well that one went) I suspect that Yamato's ending would make it so that everyone is super psyched to live in a meritocracy too I suppose but in that one you would have people who wouldn't be able to compete.
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Mar 5, 2012 04:36
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Ibram Gaunt posted:What happens in the Daichi True ending anyways. I assume it's the token everything goes back to how it used to be one? Everything goes back to how it used to but, but things are clearly changed and people retain some element of their memory of what happened before. Anyone you saved is therefore less of a dick, including Yamato and such. Also Ban's father is alive and part of the police force again. Cityinthesea posted:Well yeah if it was just them being able to create a complete egalitarian utopia in the real world, but they changed the dispositions of human nature itself with Polaris so everyone would be super happy whether they would actually dislike it or not; and yeah it's probably the law ending but it's probably the most positive spin on a law ending, especially following Strange Journey which was the worst (admittedly I never got the law ending [azume?] from DS1 so I dunno how well that one went) Well, like I said, it's positive as long as you're okay with humanity-wide brainwashing and control. Most of the endings have some form of downside, and in this case, it seriously is the fact that you've turned over all of humanity to be rewritten. Myself, if I had to pick a "best" ending, it would probably be The Anguished One, where humanity is freed from control entirely and allowed to choose to build their own society free of outside interference. But that's an ending which also sacrifices the comforts of control and so I can see people finding it unhappy since it's basically destroy the world to remake it. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 5, 2012 |
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Mar 5, 2012 04:38
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For some reason it's still more palatable than Strange Journey's interpretation of the law ending, dunno why... maybe it was because everyone in Strange Journey was an rear end in a top hat.
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Mar 5, 2012 04:42
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ImpAtom posted:Everything goes back to how it used to but, but things are clearly changed and people retain some element of their memory of what happened before. Anyone you saved is therefore less of a dick, including Yamato and such. Also Ban's father is alive and part of the police force again. Ah, thank you. Saves me the trouble of replaying it. I wonder if Atlus will churn out Devil Survivor 2: RELOADED or something for the 3ds in a year or two that adds some extra content and B grade voice acting. .....I'd probably still buy it actually 
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Mar 5, 2012 04:47
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Just starting playing Devil Survivor 2. Have one annoyance: Why are they using the "Evil Policeman" sprite for any and all policeman interactions? Come on, make at least one new sprite =(
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Mar 5, 2012 05:03
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Is there a Devil Survivor 2 thread yet? Lots of spoilers on this page.
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Dragongem posted:Just starting playing Devil Survivor 2. Have one annoyance: Why are they using the "Evil Policeman" sprite for any and all policeman interactions? Come on, make at least one new sprite =( I find it funnier to just think of the dude as a massive douchebag who's smirking at everyone's obvious misfortune.
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