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uh zip zoom posted:so, is now a good time to start asking about Winds of Winter? (no, seriously) I say we give him until 2013 and asses how updated he's keeping us before we start attacking him again.
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mind the walrus posted:I say we give him until 2013 and asses how updated he's keeping us before we start attacking him again.
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Mar 4, 2012 23:27
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Factor_VIII posted:With such a cease-fire in place he'll be able to devote himself to writing the book, right? Good one.
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Mar 4, 2012 23:29
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Either way it's a cushion of reasonable leave while he adjusts to being even more famous and having a hit TV show. He got out the big "gently caress MY LIFE" book after six years of apparent creative hell, regardless of whether or not we think that's ok in the first place he's going to need time to unwind before getting back to it. Even though his age and health are major factors in being able to write more and we want him done ASAP, pushing him harder than a human being should be pushed is equally destructive. Then in 2013 when he says he's going to need more time off because the Jets didn't make it to the playoffs again and his busy schedule of conventions and dealing with TV-related merchandise is such a drain on his creative energy, we get to remind him that he's a loving writer who chained himself to at least two more books and needs to do his loving job, and that maybe his organization is loving faulty. Bad Thread-style.
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Mar 4, 2012 23:40
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Urdnot Fire posted:I'd be fine with a series consisting solely of Barristan, Bronn, and Davos. They could be roommates, it could be a wacky sitcom, or else they could be wandering the earth fighting baddies. Elindale posted:They could be constantly having to rescue their semi-handicapped friend Quentyn as he cooks up half-brained schemes to tame the dragon. Ten years ago, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the King's Landing underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.
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Mar 5, 2012 00:22
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The bad thread always waits, just lurking beneath the surface for the right opportunity to make a move. Much like a Bolton (not Ramsay).
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Mar 5, 2012 00:24
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Ten years ago, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the King's Landing underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team. I'd watch this. And remember, Stargate SG-1 started out as a premium cable* big money production before getting shipped off to Sci-Fi after five episodes. *boobs
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Mar 5, 2012 00:29
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Ten years ago, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the King's Landing underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team. This would be awesome. Throw Tyrion's scheming in there somewhere and we've got a winner here.
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Mar 5, 2012 00:37
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Ten years ago, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the King's Landing underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team. You're missing Syrio Forel in that. You need Syrio Forel for that scenario.
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Mar 5, 2012 05:44
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whowhatwhere posted:You're missing Syrio Forel in that. You need Syrio Forel for that scenario. Just so. That might have been the best combat scene in the serie, Syrio Forel vs. half the city guards, using a couple of sticks. Of course, he's like the one good character GRRM kills for real.
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Mar 5, 2012 05:48
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Don't let TVIV hear that or they'll cry you a river. THERE WAS NO BODY SYRIO LIVES
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Mar 5, 2012 05:50
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mind the walrus posted:Don't let TVIV hear that or they'll cry you a river. THERE WAS NO BODY SYRIO LIVES Hasn't been heard of in four books. He dead. Not to say that someone shouldn't write a serie of sequels detailing the adventure of Syrio. Let us have a moment for the most bad-rear end motherfucker this serie has given birth to.
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Mar 5, 2012 05:54
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FrozenVent posted:Hasn't been heard of in four books. He dead. Not to say that someone shouldn't write a serie of sequels detailing the adventure of Syrio. Last time I checked, Bronn's doing just fine 
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Mar 5, 2012 06:28
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FrozenVent posted:Hasn't been heard of in four books. He dead. Not to say that someone shouldn't write a serie of sequels detailing the adventure of Syrio. I forget who but after GoT season one there was a huge resurgence of people who read all (then-Five) books who swore up and down that Syrio could be around. There is an argument for why they'd reach that conclusion, but I honestly don't think it holds up under close scrutiny.
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Mar 5, 2012 06:39
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The best argument for Syrio being alive: 1) GRRM's brought back all sorts of characters via many different bullshit ways 2) Wishful thinking. Syrio Lives, QED 
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Mar 5, 2012 06:43
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I stopped reading halfway through book 5 and forgot where I was at or whats going on. Does the second half of ADWD trump the first?
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Mar 5, 2012 07:33
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Does the High Septon poo poo in the Kingswood?
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Mar 5, 2012 07:58
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Does the Dragon have three heads?
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Mar 5, 2012 08:03
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Those questions pale in importance to the classic "Where do whores go?"
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Mar 5, 2012 08:07
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Rurik posted:Does the High Septon poo poo in the Kingswood? ...does he?
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Mar 5, 2012 08:59
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bigmcgaffney posted:...does he? If he does, you can bet there'll be a chapter about it in WoW(hahaha)
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Mar 5, 2012 09:14
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whowhatwhere posted:The best argument for Syrio being alive: Syrio confirmed for half of Frankenmountain, you heard it here first.
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Mar 5, 2012 11:07
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bigmcgaffney posted:...does he? As much as Dany does in the Dothraki Sea.
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Mar 5, 2012 11:57
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Syrio confirmed for half of Frankenmountain, you heard it here first. It cuts off around the navel.
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Mar 5, 2012 12:12
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Why did that guy write "serie" in two different posts?
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Mar 5, 2012 13:28
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Rurik posted:As much as Dany does in the Dothraki Sea. Much and more!
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Mar 5, 2012 14:11
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Maytag posted:Why did that guy write "serie" in two different posts?
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whowhatwhere posted:The best argument for Syrio being alive:
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Factor_VIII posted:Yeah. After not hearing anything about him for 4 books one can hope he's dead. The fewer characters GRRM brings back after their apparent death the better. Which of course means Gurm brings him back as Azhor Ahai/third head of the dragon.
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Mar 5, 2012 16:30
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I recall getting into a retard-fight with someone who was drat insistent that Jaquen was Syrio in disguise, which I maintain causes more problems than it solves.
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Mar 5, 2012 16:59
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bigmcgaffney posted:Skipped Danychat '12 to say that Davos is motherfucking milk toast. "Milquetoast," it's the last name of a comics character from the teens/twenties with the characteristics you would expect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Milquetoast
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Mar 5, 2012 17:37
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mind the walrus posted:I recall getting into a retard-fight with someone who was drat insistent that Jaquen was Syrio in disguise, which I maintain causes more problems than it solves.
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Mar 5, 2012 17:42
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Factor_VIII posted:I suppose it could work in theory, but it would be pretty pointless. Besides, having "Syrio" be Aria's guardian angel throughout the story would reduce its verisimilitude (if one supposes it has some). It also raises the obvious question of what a Faceless Man was doing scouting out a small child as a swordplay instructor in the first place. What mission could he have been on that would: A: Have allowed him to have the spare time to act as a swordplay instructor B: Allowed him to get his "cover" killed in the name of a small child with the long-term plan of testing and recruiting her? And those are just at absolute face value, not to mention all the questions that stem from assuming things like "If teaching Arya was part of his cover who was his target? Someone in the Stark camp? Are the Faceless Men watching over the Stark Politics? If so why didn't they do anything to intervene with Robb, or why do they give a poo poo in the first place?" and so on in an endless torrent of "why?" Like I said it's not impossible to construct the narrative around it, but it raises far more questions than it answers and not in a good way.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:"Milquetoast," it's the last name of a comics character from the teens/twenties with the characteristics you would expect. Maybe he meant actual milk toast, as if to say Davos is a soggy mess but still quite savory? The cannibals on Skagos may soon find out for themselves.
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mind the walrus posted:It also raises the obvious question of what a Faceless Man was doing scouting out a small child as a swordplay instructor in the first place. What mission could he have been on that would: A retcon could conceivably be: the goal was to infiltrate the King's Court - since we know the Crown is in debt to the Iron Bank. It could be little more than the Iron Bank hiring them for a reconnaissance / spy mission to see if the King is dicking around with their money or actually making attempts to play back its debts. Or the Faceless Men just want to have a spy there in general to keep tabs - similar to the Citadel with Jaqen.
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mind the walrus posted:Like I said it's not impossible to construct the narrative around it, but it raises far more questions than it answers and not in a good way. It's not like we're ever going to find out anyway. It's not hard to play the theory out all, which makes me not entirely sure that wasn't what Gurm was going for, but like I said, we'll never know.
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Kneel Before Zog posted:I stopped reading halfway through book 5 and forgot where I was at or whats going on. Does the second half of ADWD trump the first? Yes, but not by much.
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geeves posted:A retcon could conceivably be: the goal was to infiltrate the King's Court - since we know the Crown is in debt to the Iron Bank. It could be little more than the Iron Bank hiring them for a reconnaissance / spy mission to see if the King is dicking around with their money or actually making attempts to play back its debts. I guess the main reason that the theory never seemed that plausible to me was because the Faceless Men are all about being, well, faceless. Assuming that Ned stark vetted Syrio's credentials and he wasn't just boasting (which his fighting skills seem to indicate), being the First Sword of Braavos seems like a somewhat conspicuous position for a group of assassins renowned for their anonymity.
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Scuzzywuffit posted:I guess the main reason that the theory never seemed that plausible to me was because the Faceless Men are all about being, well, faceless. Assuming that Ned stark vetted Syrio's credentials and he wasn't just boasting (which his fighting skills seem to indicate), being the First Sword of Braavos seems like a somewhat conspicuous position for a group of assassins renowned for their anonymity. You could explain around that, too, but even thinking about it puts you on the wrong side of Occam's Razor.
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Scuzzywuffit posted:I guess the main reason that the theory never seemed that plausible to me was because the Faceless Men are all about being, well, faceless. Assuming that Ned stark vetted Syrio's credentials and he wasn't just boasting (which his fighting skills seem to indicate), being the First Sword of Braavos seems like a somewhat conspicuous position for a group of assassins renowned for their anonymity.
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