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Mcqueen posted:Not going to be doing any track riding, and if I did, I'd prolly pick up a cheaper bike/different tire but I'd assume a 180/55 would be the best tire for taxi/SUV/bicycle dodging? Thanks for the tip. Try one this time and the other one the next time. Start with the 180 if you'd like more agility and switch to the 190 if you feel the 180 is too twitchy
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# ? Feb 27, 2012 22:14 |
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I've got Michelin 2CTs front and rear on my Bandit right now. I see a lot of love for Pilot Road 3s. Is there going to be much difference? I'm looking for long life, as the flat, hot, straight desert isn't kind to the middles of soft tires.
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# ? Mar 2, 2012 17:20 |
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So my 2003 monster's front tire is a Pirelli 120/60ZR17, made 0303. Going to need a replacement asap? If yes, should I stick with that same tire? Can you increase tire height in front the same as in the back tire going from 160/60 to 160/70? Also, the back tire was made 2405, but has great tread (2003 bike only has 7k on it), should I really be concerned with replacing yet? (I'm a new rider and am generally a slow poke... so far...)
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# ? Mar 2, 2012 21:36 |
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:So my 2003 monster's front tire is a Pirelli 120/60ZR17, made 0303. I would replace both now. Even the newer one is near 7 years old. The rubber has hardened now and you won't get the same level of grip out of them. In terms of the front tire size, you can likely run 120/70 without any issue. I did this on my SV650 and raised the forks about 7-8mm through the triples to compensate. New tires are pretty cheap especially when you consider the costs of a low speed lowside let alone a more serious crash.
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# ? Mar 2, 2012 21:52 |
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Yes, replace both immediately. Old tires harden really severely and there's a huge reduction in traction. Not a big deal on a car, but a huge deal on a bike where you only have 2 small traction patches, and the bike doesn't want to stand up on it's own. I recommend Michelin Pilot Road 2s or 3s, or Pirelli Angels, or any other sport touring tire for your first tire. They'll come up to temp faster and last longer than the more sport oriented stuff, and will be all around better for street use. Those tires on there are probably not made any more, although Pirelli has a tendency to name their tires very similarly...if you can get the names off of them I can tell you if they're still in production or not.
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# ? Mar 2, 2012 22:15 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:I've got Michelin 2CTs front and rear on my Bandit right now. I see a lot of love for Pilot Road 3s. Is there going to be much difference? I'm looking for long life, as the flat, hot, straight desert isn't kind to the middles of soft tires. Theoretically you can get around 9-10k out of PR3's but it all depends on how you ride. I haven't died yet running them and I ride like a dong in all sorts of weather
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# ? Mar 2, 2012 22:18 |
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Xovaan posted:Theoretically you can get around 9-10k out of PR3's but it all depends on how you ride. I haven't died yet running them and I ride like a dong in all sorts of weather Ok. I'm edging up on 9k on the rear 2ct, and it's starting to get a flat spot, because really, no twisties. Also, my new job has me going about 1.5 miles on a sandy dirt road, and the back end is all over the place with my tools back there. Will dirt/sand/rock roads eat up motorcycle road tires way way worse?
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 00:12 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Ok. I'm edging up on 9k on the rear 2ct, and it's starting to get a flat spot, because really, no twisties. Also, my new job has me going about 1.5 miles on a sandy dirt road, and the back end is all over the place with my tools back there. Will dirt/sand/rock roads eat up motorcycle road tires way way worse? Nah you'll be fine. Dirt/offroad is pretty easy on tires.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 00:51 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Ok. I'm edging up on 9k on the rear 2ct, and it's starting to get a flat spot, because really, no twisties. Also, my new job has me going about 1.5 miles on a sandy dirt road, and the back end is all over the place with my tools back there. Will dirt/sand/rock roads eat up motorcycle road tires way way worse? My Battlax bt003's did just fine for a bit of light offroading. They seem way harder on dirt than knobbies and pretty much just bounced over stuff. DO NOT get twist happy on the throttle, it'll spin up on a moments notice. Other than that you're golden.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 00:56 |
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I hear the PR3s praised over other tires mostly for their wet performance. Unsure if that's a factor for you. Consider the Metzler Roadtec Z8s, people seem to be getting great life with good grip out of them.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 03:57 |
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Z3n posted:Yes, replace both immediately. Old tires harden really severely and there's a huge reduction in traction. Not a big deal on a car, but a huge deal on a bike where you only have 2 small traction patches, and the bike doesn't want to stand up on it's own. I recommend Michelin Pilot Road 2s or 3s, or Pirelli Angels, or any other sport touring tire for your first tire. They'll come up to temp faster and last longer than the more sport oriented stuff, and will be all around better for street use. Those tires on there are probably not made any more, although Pirelli has a tendency to name their tires very similarly...if you can get the names off of them I can tell you if they're still in production or not. How much better are the PR3's (that I see everybody raving about) than the Pirelli Angels? I think I'd definitely get more use out of sport touring tires like the angel compared to diablos or something.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 04:05 |
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And how much extra weight is enough to justify b-comp PR3s? 100lb? 200?
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 04:41 |
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:And how much extra weight is enough to justify b-comp PR3s? 100lb? 200? Personally, I wouldn't run them unless I was on a big sport touring bike. Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:How much better are the PR3's (that I see everybody raving about) than the Pirelli Angels? I think I'd definitely get more use out of sport touring tires like the angel compared to diablos or something. There isn't a bad tire in the bunch when it comes to modern tires from major tire makers. The difference is really in the construction of the tire and the feedback it gives as a result. So basically you buy them based on the feedback you like from your tires, and you only learn what you like from running a bunch of different tires.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 05:32 |
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My simple input about PR3s: my friend has them on his bike (TDM 850), and the wet grip on them seems amazing. Fake edit: Or to quote british magazine BIKE: quote:The best yet, by miles. More confidence and outright grip. I could confidently drag my knees through inch-deep puddles every lap...These are the best road tyres I've used in the wet. They tick every box.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 06:11 |
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Z3n posted:There isn't a bad tire in the bunch when it comes to modern tires from major tire makers. The difference is really in the construction of the tire and the feedback it gives as a result. So basically you buy them based on the feedback you like from your tires, and you only learn what you like from running a bunch of different tires. Sounds good I think I'll try out the Pirelli's first simply because and then see how it goes from there. Btw I've posted in CA for 2 days now and you've already given me lots of good advice. Thanks, you're the man.
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# ? Mar 3, 2012 06:52 |
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Baby got some new shoes We had a bunch of fog yesterday which held up all the post and freight so I totally wasn't expecting these this morning. Distanzia 160/60, Pro Extreme Rain 120/70 - Considered by many to be the quintessential supermoto combination for the British 'Summer'. ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Mar 3, 2012 |
# ? Mar 3, 2012 12:16 |
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Who usually has the best prices for a set of tires? I'm specifically looking for a set of Pilot Road 2s for a sportbike.
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# ? Mar 4, 2012 18:48 |
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Dennis Kirk is consistently cheaper, see below. Dagen H fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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Just a small update. I tried to go through Indysuperbike.com, because on google shopper they said no shipping so total would be $120 for a set of MT 75's. At checkout they added $40 for shipping. I checked around and they seem to do the bait and switch for free shipping often. I checked around and found the same tires for $114 + $8 shipping on Ron Ayers. TLDR: Indysuperbikes can suck it for lying about free shipping and Ronayers rocks for good prices.
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# ? Mar 5, 2012 01:14 |
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ReelBigLizard posted:
Am I smoking crack or did you put those tires in a boat to take that picture?
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# ? Mar 5, 2012 01:24 |
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That's before they were installed on the boat, silly.
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# ? Mar 5, 2012 05:20 |
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Nitramster posted:Am I smoking crack or did you put those tires in a boat to take that picture? Some people live on boats, coming from someone who grew up on one.
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# ? Mar 5, 2012 06:17 |
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My question stands!
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 08:20 |
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The fact that we don't know you're not smoking crack makes it difficult to answer.
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 11:51 |
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Nitramster posted:Am I smoking crack or did you put those tires in a boat to take that picture? Those are indeed on my boat, which is also my house. Where I live it's about half the price of even the cheapest shitbox apartment. The real fun came when the weather closed in and I had to dis/mount the rear tyre in the main cabin; which on a 29ft yacht can not be in any way considered spacious. Mcqueen posted:Some people live on boats, coming from someone who grew up on one. Boat livin' buddies
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 15:20 |
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[quote="Bucephalus"] Motorcycle Superstore has good prices, as long as you exceed the $89 threshold and get free shipping. [/quot I just bought 2.5 sets of tires and Dennis kirk was $130 cheaper than mc superstore. $5 added per tire but free shipping otherwise. Swmototires.com can be cheap if they have what you need.
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 16:28 |
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Gullous posted:[quote="Bucephalus"] Dennis Kirk has bitchin prices, especially for older bikes. My CM200T needed about $300 in parts from other places, at DK it was only about $145.
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 17:35 |
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Sooooo, who in Seattle wants to help me put these on? haha
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 22:58 |
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Where are you at?
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 23:10 |
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Burien/Georgetown
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# ? Mar 6, 2012 23:18 |
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I'm up in Everett, kind of a drive...
GI Joe jobs fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Mar 7, 2012 |
# ? Mar 7, 2012 00:00 |
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Got my hands on some free track tires that should last for the rest of the year. Still has the knobbies in the middle, now that's what I like to see
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# ? Mar 7, 2012 08:51 |
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I figured I'd ask for a quote from a local bike shop for Pilot Road 3s, thinking that even if it was a few dollars more than the internet I might still by them to help local businesses, but they want $520 for a set, and that's not including installation. I don't understand how they can be $200 more than motorcycle superstore and have anyone buy their stuff.
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 03:55 |
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Weird, tires are the only thing that are fairly close in price around here, although they have a hard time believing you can put them on yourself.
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 04:57 |
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Road 3's or 2CT's for my SV?
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 05:05 |
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Either way, you win.
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 06:25 |
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Street riding, road 3s. Street/track, 2cts.
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 07:09 |
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Yeah, if you ride hard enough on the street that you typically blue your tires, you may as well go for the 2CT's. Otherwise, you shouldn't need any more grip than a PR2 or PR3 will offer (which is still a surprising amount, actually).
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 08:49 |
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Just to create confusion, my Pilot Road 2s say 2CT on them. I'm assuming you guys mean Pilot Powers when you are saying 2CT.
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# ? Mar 8, 2012 16:03 |
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NinjaCthulhu posted:I figured I'd ask for a quote from a local bike shop for Pilot Road 3s, thinking that even if it was a few dollars more than the internet I might still by them to help local businesses, but they want $520 for a set, and that's not including installation. I don't understand how they can be $200 more than motorcycle superstore and have anyone buy their stuff. Bixington posted:Weird, tires are the only thing that are fairly close in price around here, although they have a hard time believing you can put them on yourself. I think the UK has a bigger culture of bikes for transport, whereas in the states they tend to be seen more as a leisure pursuit. Here in Guernsey tyres are hugely expensive, way more than can be justified by shipping and handling. I really wanted to support my local shop but they quote £360 for a pair, with 7-10days to wait. Whereas FWR in London will do the same pair for £208 including RM Special Delivery, and get them in the post that afternoon. I'm pretty sure that even with the delivery that is less than what my local shop are paying trade, I can only assume that whoever is in charge of stock ordering is just massively incompetent.
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