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Arnold of Soissons posted:You could explain around that, too, but even thinking about it puts you on the wrong side of Occam's Razor. Which is really my point. It's not that I don't see how you could easily retcon Syrio into being Jaquen, or at least a Faceless Man, but the explanations pile on top of one another and start eating into the other plot lines to the point where you're honestly better off leaving the entire plotline untouched.
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Scuzzywuffit posted:I guess the main reason that the theory never seemed that plausible to me was because the Faceless Men are all about being, well, faceless. Assuming that Ned stark vetted Syrio's credentials and he wasn't just boasting (which his fighting skills seem to indicate), being the First Sword of Braavos seems like a somewhat conspicuous position for a group of assassins renowned for their anonymity. Yeah, but all their identities are real people. Jaqen also killed someone and then assumed his identity, so it wouldn't necessarily be a huge stretch for an FM to kill Forel (or for Forel to otherwise die somewhere unnoticed) and then steal his face. As mind the walrus has been saying, though, it's not going to add enough to the story to be worth it.
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Mar 5, 2012 22:55
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Is retconning the new way Gurm is going to gently caress up the series? Does Literature Protection Services exist? There has to be someone we can call who will take ASoIF away from him until he's a fit
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Mar 5, 2012 22:56
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Joramun posted:Maybe he meant actual milk toast, as if to say Davos is a soggy mess but still quite savory? Yes, milquetoast is itself a play on words, referencing a bland and uninteresting meal. Therefore what lookd like ignorance on my part is actually a play on a play on words, referencing Davos' palatability to cannabis. Layers upon layers, my friends. Layers upon layers, like suet on a fat man.
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Mar 5, 2012 23:01
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whowhatwhere posted:As mind the walrus has been saying, though, it's not going to add enough to the story to be worth it. Well we had two whole books of not adding anything to the story so...
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Mar 5, 2012 23:03
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80 page speech (broken up in 3 POV chapters with 2-6 chapters in-between, of course) in which Syrio lays out the entire plan of the Iron Bank and the Faceless Men, who turn out to be the true antagonists of the entire story?
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Mar 5, 2012 23:04
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Mediant posted:Is retconning the new way Gurm is going to gently caress up the series?
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mind the walrus posted:Which is really my point. It's not that I don't see how you could easily retcon Syrio into being Jaquen, or at least a Faceless Man, but the explanations pile on top of one another and start eating into the other plot lines to the point where you're honestly better off leaving the entire plotline untouched. I know, I was agreeing with you. 
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mind the walrus posted:80 page speech (broken up in 3 POV chapters with 2-6 chapters in-between, of course) in which Syrio lays out the entire plan of the Iron Bank and the Faceless Men, who turn out to be the true antagonists of the entire story?
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Mar 5, 2012 23:22
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Except Brienne, Sansa, Davos, and Tree-Bran. Arnold of Soissons posted:I know, I was agreeing with you. I was just clarifying my own point in a different way. Let's not fight. Let us celebrate with a round of lemoncakes and rape. Pick a newbie, any newbie.
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Mar 5, 2012 23:22
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Why yes, Roose, Dr. Tachyon is quite familiar with the procedure to change your body to that of a teenage woman so you can get raped by your psychotic son. What? Is it reversible? Of course, there are very powerful necrotic sex majjyks we can call upon...
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Do you guys know if they have an increased budget this season? I was sad last season when they just knocked out Tyrion and we missed the stark/lanistar battle, where we get to see Gregor in action for the first time in the books. Without giving much away, book two features a giant gently caress off battle and I hope they can show it.... but if they didn't have the money to show the one last season, I worry how they could show the DONT READ THIS battle of Kings Landing with hundreds of Ships and tens of thousands of men fighting on them e; Oh yeah this isn't the non spoiler thread. Umph fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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Factor_VIII posted:GRRM decides that he has enough money to live in luxury for the rest of his life and doesn't want to spend any more time writing. WoW thus will consist of just one chapter that reveals that the entire plot has actually been a fantasy that existed solely in Hodor's head and that all the Starks and King Robert are alive and well. The End. Factor_VIII posted:It turns out that the higher echelons of the faceless men are actually alien reptilian shape-shifting humanoids. Having finished studying humanity, their mothership arrives and launches a full-scale alien invasion. Thankfully, all the characters from Wild Cards accidentally travel to the dimension of ASOIAF and become the new protagonists of the series after all the characters introduced so far are exterminated by the reptilians. 
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But, but where do the Second-rate Looters play into this? The Others are clearly a metaphor for the fans who claim the right to take without contributing to society, right?
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bigmcgaffney posted:Why yes, Roose, Dr. Tachyon is quite familiar with the procedure to change your body to that of a teenage woman so you can get raped by your psychotic son. What? Is it reversible? Of course, there are very powerful necrotic sex majjyks we can call upon...
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my cat is norris posted:If he can make Jaime sympathetic, We like to do a lot of "haha GRRM is fat rape your nuncle urf urf" here but this is a pretty impressive turn of writing I think. Jaime went from being someone I hated and wanted to see die to maybe the character whose chapters I look forward to the most.
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I just like it when Jaime slaps people with his gold hand. poo poo's hilarious. I could do with less of nipples on a breastplate and more of Jaime backhanding idiots with his gold hand.
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empty sea posted:I just like it when Jaime slaps people with his gold hand. poo poo's hilarious. I could do with less of nipples on a breastplate and more of Jaime backhanding idiots with his gold hand. Or walking in on people and making smartass quips about it.
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Ross posted:We like to do a lot of "haha GRRM is fat rape your nuncle urf urf" here but this is a pretty impressive turn of writing I think. Jaime went from being someone I hated and wanted to see die to maybe the character whose chapters I look forward to the most. I remember what he did with The Wise And Powerful Turtle, which is on par with what he did with Jaime. Maybe better, since he did that poo poo first.
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bigmcgaffney posted:I remember what he did with The Wise And Powerful Turtle, which is on par with what he did with Jaime. Maybe better, since he did that poo poo first. Wait, are we talking about Stephen King here?
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Octy posted:Wait, are we talking about Stephen King here? Ah, gently caress it.
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Don't back out. Finish the loving poem. On his belly he holds horse roasted with honey and peppers, peacocks served in their plumage, roasted whole and stuffed with dates, roast swan stuffed with mushrooms and oysters, roast herons, a great wedding pie with a hundred live doves baked within to fly out when the crust is broken, unborn puppies and honeyed dormice, dog sausage, olives stuffed with maggots, jellied eels, stuffed larks, camel, spiny grubs, dog in honey, stuffed with prunes and peppers, heron stuffed with figs, black swan in her plumage, honeyed chicken, beef-and-bacon pie, fresh-baked bread, pork pie, hot spiced wine, cream of wheat with butter and honey, black pudding, sausage, bacon, duck eggs, and dark beer, baked venison, oatcakes, roasted haunch of goat, acorn paste, mutton in onion-ale broth, buns with raisins, dried apples, and pine nuts, pease pudding, rack of lamb in garlic-herb crust, aurochs with roasted leeks, cold fruit soup...
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Did you... have a list of most egregious food descriptions found in the books hidden somewhere? You did, didn't you? I guess now that that's done the poem may be continued. On his backs all rapes are made He knows story's end but mayn't aid His writing's slow but never kind He holds us all within his mind He loves the cake, and loves the tea And even loves a child, like Arry I feel dirty.
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mind the walrus posted:It also raises the obvious question of what a Faceless Man was doing scouting out a small child as a swordplay instructor in the first place. What mission could he have been on that would: Syrio = Howland Reed = Jaquen  He was doing his brah Neddard a favor. Rurik posted:See the GURM! of enormous girth, on his belly he holds-- GURM, the great A'Tuin carrying four elephants on its edit: In retrospect, I feel bad for bringing Pratchet in to a GURM thread. Terry deserves better. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Mar 6, 2012 |
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empty sea posted:I just like it when Jaime slaps people with his gold hand. poo poo's hilarious. I could do with less of nipples on a breastplate and more of Jaime backhanding idiots with his gold hand. Who was it that made that avatar a while back of the golden hand knocking over the wine goblet? That made me laugh out loud the first time I saw it.
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Rurik posted:...I guess now that that's done the poem may be continued.  Aye, so you are. Say thank ya.
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el_brio posted:Who was it that made that avatar a while back of the golden hand knocking over the wine goblet? That made me laugh out loud the first time I saw it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz3lAd2nGQ I've watched this at least two dozen times.
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SammyWhereAreYou posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz3lAd2nGQ Pure awesome. I read back a few pages but it looks like no one commented on the AGOT opening to the Simpsons last Sunday. It was the first time the Simpsons haven't sucked in several years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=367Nd07eF9E
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Octy posted:Wait, are we talking about Stephen King here? I was wrong, its the Great and Powerful Turtle, GRRM's aspie Wildcards OC. dad-a-chum did-a-chick tick tock CHOO CHOO
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SammyWhereAreYou posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lz3lAd2nGQ It was elf pron who made it an avatar, for whoever asked. And yes that is the best youtube.
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bigmcgaffney posted:dad-a-chum did-a-chick Lobstrosities are probably the most horrifying thing in that entire series. There's just something about them, it's unsettling in ways nothing else is.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Lobstrosities are probably the most horrifying thing in that entire series. There's just something about them, it's unsettling in ways nothing else is. That, and the Blaine picture book.
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The animated features on the GoT blurays are amazing. It's a history book of, well, everything. Pretty rad. (gently caress GRRM)
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whowhatwhere posted:What, seriously? Is there anything new? Not really. It's just the tiny snippets of Westeros history you read over 4 books all summarized in one big animated piece. It's really cool. And the commentary is nifty too. HBO owns.
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I haven't seen anything "new" but if you haven't read the books this would be a pretty awesome way to get the important history. The ones about the history of the Wall are my favorite so far.
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Bran the Builder, can he build it? Bran the Builder, YES HE CAN!!!
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From the TV IV hiatus thread:FateoMcSkippy posted:Lysa sucks so much. Her and her stupid kid. Man, this person is going to have the best time watching the Sansa snow castle scene. There's a part of me that wishes I could erase my memory before watching the adaptation of Storm of Swords. That entire 2 (?) seasons will be incredible. I also wish I could erase my memory of DwD, but for completely different reasons 
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Trico posted:Man, this person is going to have the best time watching the Sansa snow castle scene. Don't we all? Imagine the uproar after the Red Wedding.
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