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I'm getting a Mega Man Battle Network vibe from Bowman's song, and a Skyrim vibe from Beatfox's. I really like them.
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I'm confused about how the timing of Dirk's run-in with HB lines up with the new revelations about the timeline, because it looked like it happened right after Jane's assassination attempt, and his conversation with uu didn't seem ro happen long after. UU and uu being new trolls living on the. UU was shown at a terminal loke one of the Veil labs might imply that the Condesce used the ones in the B2 Incipisphere to resurrect her species. It also keeps uu from being an anomoly in the peaceful A1 Alternia. However, it raises the question of why UU would have Sufferer cufflinks.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:07
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The incipisphere has its own timeline, separate from the parent universe. Not much use was made of this in previous sessions - except by the meteor portals - but it's very important here. The four players are all synced up to their dreamselves' lives in the incipisphere, which are happening simultaneously as presented, even though on Earth they're pretty far apart temporally.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:09
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Probably the biggest surprise (and I was a future nay sayer too!) was hearing a small sample of acid house in the flash's song. What track was used in the flash, was it new or pre-existing from an album?
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Mar 8, 2012 18:17
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It's two new songs, by Bowman and Beatfox.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:24
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Also I just realized: we've gone from The Postman to Waterworld. Kevin Costner: the most subtle of Homestuck's Terrible Movie Influences. Why must my taste in films keep turning out to be awful. 
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Mar 8, 2012 18:28
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Every time I see that "Homestuck" is still floating next to the sun. I smile a little.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:30
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^ I was just going to post about the floating "homestuck" text  I was hoping for poppopsprite too, but I guess I should have seen the gcat shenanigans coming. The callback is too great to ignore. There's another sort of interesting parallel here -- Jake and Jane's "birthdays" (as far as being paradox clones go) are earlier than Roxy and Dirk's, just like in B1.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:34
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i was skeptical about Dirk and Roxy being from different times as Jane and Jake until now, but one thing that really ought to have tipped us off earlier is the simple fact that they had a generational gap in B1, so why wouldn't they have one in B2? I don't think that Roxy and Dirk are only 3 years in the future, but they are probably however many years in the future that seperated the ages of the guardians in B1. Probably around half a century.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:43
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So did that meteor actually strike Earth, or did Battleship Condescension blast it apart? Kind of interesting, the differing dynamics. Pre-scratch Earth was absolutely riddled with meteors due to the massive number of people playing the open SBurb beta (even if only the four kids won), leaving Earth pretty much a scorched husk. Alternia only had the twelve trolls playing, and seemed to have enough infrastructure left around for the Midnight Crew to rebuild something (since the actual apocalypse condition there was the Vast Glub). If Jane's the only one in the current time frame playing SBurb, the amount of might be low enough for the Condescension's forces to just deal with them and leave her a nice, complacent (CEASE REPRODUCTION) planet to conquer.
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Mar 8, 2012 18:55
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Prison Warden posted:I think all the entry items have to do with the player's aspect in some way. Dave had to wait on his egg, Rose had to trust to luck and jump off a waterfall, Jade had to hit exactly where the pinata was, Jane's is a tree, a living thing. The only thing is John doesn't really fit with this theory and some of these, like Rose, are kind of a stretch. Didn't Hussie say all the entry items had some tie-in with creation myths, just like Homestuck is one huge series of paradoxical creations? Of course, I think he said that before Jade entered the Medium, and a pinata isn't very creation mythy. Prison Warden posted:The object on Jane's entry card was a Tree, rather than an apple in John's case where the tee grew the apple, so I think Jane's entry item is like Dave's where you just have to wait and it activates itself. I need to go rewatch the flash. My first thought is that you have to do something to it that would affect a tree. It would be funny if the trick to activating it was putting it in shade, and the TrollQueen's ship arriving was what did it, when she was probably headed there expressly to prevent Jane from entering.
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Mar 8, 2012 19:00
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Constable Lemon posted:i was skeptical about Dirk and Roxy being from different times as Jane and Jake until now, but one thing that really ought to have tipped us off earlier is the simple fact that they had a generational gap in B1, so why wouldn't they have one in B2? This is what I am thinking. I mean, it doesn't really work for the Troll session though, as given the various lifespans of the different blood castes and when the Ancestors arrived in A2 universe, there is no way they could have all been players in an A1 session if the meteor timing is the same, since all the lower caste Trolls (maybe even all of them except the Empress) would be dead before the Handmaiden is born. And the Summoner wasn't born until a century or two after the Suffer's whole thing. And Dave and Rose in this universe dont appear to be as old as Jade and John, since SBaHJ the movie and Rose's books are a thing that Jane knows about. The new Waterworld being created by the Empress makes sense though. After all, she is a sea-dweller. Isn't her ship full of water or something too? Or did I imagine that?
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Mar 8, 2012 19:05
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Bobulus posted:Didn't Hussie say all the entry items had some tie-in with creation myths, just like Homestuck is one huge series of paradoxical creations? Of course, I think he said that before Jade entered the Medium, and a pinata isn't very creation mythy. This is a bit of a stretch, but the Pinata could be a metaphor for the Big Bang. Starting from a Bec's head singularity. Yes.
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Mar 8, 2012 19:26
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So Dirk brought in Jane, who poofed into mystery, yet it seems they all have a session to get to... Therefore, Roxy will bring in Jake, starting a second chain, then the two chain links will match up. Jane/Jake will bring in Roxy/Dirk. Like the Troll session writ small, rather than once-around-the-loop of the B1 kids' session.
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Mar 8, 2012 19:28
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 I suddenly understand jack poo poo. Again.Add me to the list of people who thought the whole "living in the future" theory was silly. I was expecting a big twist or something but.... 
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Mar 8, 2012 19:33
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Bobulus posted:and a pinata isn't very creation mythy. I don't think you are reaching for a tenuous enough connection! Wikipedia posted:The European piñata tradition was brought to Mexico in the 16th century; however, there was a similar tradition in Mesoamerica already. The Mayan tradition was similar to the modern piñata tradition, including blindfolding the participant hitting the piñata. The Aztec tradition commemorated the birthday of Huitzilopochtli. There. 
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Mar 8, 2012 19:33
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Cabbit posted:So did that meteor actually strike Earth, or did Battleship Condescension blast it apart? I think it may not have been a meteor at all that was seen, both in the flash and when Lil' Seb was looking through the telescope, as mentioned earlier it may have just been Crocker's ship shining from atmospheric re-entry. With that, I almost would have guessed that perhaps there never even was a Reckoning, given that this version of post-entry Earth looks to be in better shape(minus all the water), as well as the fact that the kid's meteors already came from the pre-scratch session. Except.. That doesn't explain where GCAT and the Frog temple came from, so they must be from the post-scratch game session, so there probably was a Reckoning of some kind at least. (It's probably a different Frog temple than the one from the pre-scratch session, otherwise it'd also have a pod that has the White King and Jack Noir in it!)
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Mar 8, 2012 19:37
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Tell me if this is insane or not: A1 and A2, and B1 and B2, are closed, endless loops. It's all an elaborate prison for Lord English that has been cycling endlessly forever, which is why there are so many visual, metaphorical, and literally-temporal callbacks-- the universes are echoing over and over, creating a small bits of drift and deja-vu. Lord English 'already here' because he's always been here, because he was imprisoned there. Something is going to happen, or has already happened, that is going to gently caress the cycle up. I have absolutely nothing to back any of this up.
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Mar 8, 2012 19:50
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Color Printer posted:Add me to the list of people who thought the whole "living in the future" theory was silly. I was expecting a big twist or something but.... A lot of us didn't expect him to just throw out the whole "meteor destroys your planet after starting the game" thing, considering it drove the whole first loving act, but whatever.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:11
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There is no meteor. There is no reckoning. The reckoning requires a game creature. Presumably, there is no Black Queen or King. Only Crocker. She has no means with which to start the reckoning, which is probably a massive problem with the nature of the game. Also Feferi shows up for a split second at the end of that flash. Wonder why.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:30
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Bobulus posted:My first thought is that you have to do something to it that would affect a tree. It would be funny if the trick to activating it was putting it in shade, and the TrollQueen's ship arriving was what did it, when she was probably headed there expressly to prevent Jane from entering. I would love it if we find out Lil Seb chopped it down with a lovely katana at that exact moment.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:33
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Maybe I missed it, but Dirk didn't bring cal with him to the roof. This poo poo just got hella paradoxy.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:33
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He definitely has Cal with him at the beginning of the flash. Guess he just put him down off-screen to make his dramatic "Bring it" pose.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:40
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Saradiart posted:There is no meteor. There is no reckoning. I thought of this as well, but presumably if she really needed to activate the Reckoning, she could use one of the other Dersites under her command to do it. Jack already used the scepter in the pre-Scratch game, so it's probably like the rings in being any-Carapace-usable. Also, I don't recall seeing Feferi, but kid Condesce is definitely there.
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Cabbit posted:Tell me if this is insane or not: A1 and A2, and B1 and B2, are closed, endless loops. It's all an elaborate prison for Lord English that has been cycling endlessly forever, which is why there are so many visual, metaphorical, and literally-temporal callbacks-- the universes are echoing over and over, creating a small bits of drift and deja-vu. Lord English 'already here' because he's always been here, because he was imprisoned there. A1 scratched for A2 A2 begot B1 B1 scratched for B2 B2 begot A1 Then I agree with you. I also believe that the universes are in this kind of loop.
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Mar 8, 2012 20:55
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Jesus christ has anyone seen this ad on the side of MSPA   It goes to some creepy videogame dating site http://www.gamerdater.com/
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Mar 8, 2012 21:14
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Norton Ghostride posted:Jesus christ has anyone seen this ad on the side of MSPA They didn't even get her color and typing quirk right. >:?
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Mar 8, 2012 21:18
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Also I just realized: we've gone from The Postman to Waterworld. Kevin Costner: the most subtle of Homestuck's Terrible Movie Influences. Battlefield Earth I know Costner isn't in it, but I refuse to believe Hussie didn't have that movie's name in mind when making the new chessboard place.
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Mar 8, 2012 21:32
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The leaderboard ad for Europe is often plain black-on-white text exhorting the viewer to read a story titled something like "Pride's Prison" - I've never clicked the link because the description made it sound like some bizarre mixture of neonazi poo poo and those depressingly batty comics about the perils of gang stalking. Then a few months ago they started making a big to-do about how there is an illustration!! at the end of it now. I wonder how some of these recurring advertisers make their own money to spend on ads; obviously the porn ones sell porn, the ongoing webcomics have their own audiences they'd want to grow, but I can't really imagine who'd be pulled in by some of the others, especially the Pride's Prison people. (If it is more than one person.) Not that the ads for European viewers usually cost that much, but still. MrBims posted:Battlefield Earth Well, John did have at least one poster for a movie involving John Travolta... that should count as precedent. Sort of.
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Mar 8, 2012 21:42
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So yeah I pretty much went straight from watching [S] Jane: Enter to getting to work on this song and pretty much worked on it nonstop. Imperial Forces
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Mar 8, 2012 22:00
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Huh, reading UU's first pesterchum again, I find this:quote:GG: I didn't see you there [on Prospit]. At least, I don't think I did! Thinking about how the Mobiiu2 Double Reacharound happened, this refutes my theory that the UU/uu session and the B2 kids' sessions are going to end up being the same. B2 Prospit has only two dream towers, meaning it will only ever have two dreamers. If the UU/uu's were a part of their session then the moons would have three towers each. Great, now I'm back to square one on these two guys. The two just confound me.
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Mar 8, 2012 22:21
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Just checking in to say... 3/3/2011. 1 year, and 1000 comics to go.
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Well Manicured Man posted:So yeah I pretty much went straight from watching [S] Jane: Enter to getting to work on this song and pretty much worked on it nonstop. On a related note, back when you used to host all your music on Tindeck, I was used to hitting "Open in background tab" on your links and listening while reading the rest of the thread. Now that you've moved to tumblr I keep forgetting that I need to go back and actually hit the play button.  Not that it's a problem, really.Anyway, I really like this. That's pretty good instrumentation as well.
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Mar 8, 2012 22:32
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So it turns out Bowman's Sburban Jungle remix was originally made for a fanventure back in 2010.
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Lady of the Beech posted:If you mean that you think: Yeah, this is what I was getting at. Which mainly leaves UU and uu as the odd ducks out, though if this is the point in the chain where things go off the rails then who knows who they might be.
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Mar 8, 2012 23:56
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Do parts of the second song in the flash "Taste for Adventure" remind anyone else of Final Fantasy 7's music? Also cannot wait for the full version of both of the songs.
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Mar 9, 2012 00:10
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Though there's always the possibility that B2 goes off the rails every time round creating A1 and a second universe free of Lord English, leaving an infinite number of regular Sburb universe chains
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No Reckoning. We had evidence that there would be no pre-entry prototyping in the form of the lack of prototyping towers, which means the white and black armies never take on the aspects of anything, and the Kings are locked in an eternal stalemate. Since the black king can't defeat the white king and claim his scepter, the meteors will never fall to the battlefield and therefore Skaia will never need to redirect them to Earth. Apparently the lack of a threat of imminent destruction is insufficient to prevent Sburb from transporting its destined players to the Medium; after all, considering how many people were playing Sburb in B1, how likely is it that none of them would have figured out how to play? The Condesce replaced the black queen at some point, and at another point led an army of drones to take over Earth, flood it, etc. The chronology of these events from her perspective is not currently known, but it seems likely that she moved from the session to the universe; she'd have gone through the Skaia portals, most likely. Perhaps the Battlefield correctly identified her as a threat. This also explain how the roving bands of Dersites got there. There was evidence to suggest that she was involved in time bullshit in B1, as well, but how Lord English managed to pull any of this off is still a mystery. We also don't know exactly what Jake's going to find at the bottom of the Frog Temple elevator, do we? Jade never made it down there, and we didn't the trolls exploring theirs very much, apart from Aradia desecrating one of them. Of course, we know he's been there several times before to use a Transportalizer that's locked to B1, and in B1 the place was home to the ectobiology lab where Bec was created and a lotus time capsule. This feels like the early acts again, what with the not having enough information to understand the state of the universe. I like it. Even so, about ready for the next intermission.
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Lady of the Beech posted:If you mean that you think: 1- The Troll session created the Human session 2- The sessions create Lord English despite him already being here Hussie will end on the "you have a feeling what you're about to do is going to be a waste of time" page and fake out the community by making it sorta look like the end of the story without explicitly stating it's the end. Cue the prologue where the kids/trolls try to break out of the endless loop ala TNG/Haruhi/Run Lola Run and we get the real end of the story.
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Well Manicured Man posted:So yeah I pretty much went straight from watching [S] Jane: Enter to getting to work on this song and pretty much worked on it nonstop. Good lord I like this. It's got just the right amount of dread to it.
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