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Mr Gentleman posted:A first year in my class billed 320+ hours _before_ the end of _February_, but he by far exceeded the norm. I really just wanted to post that number because it's astonishing to me. But I have extremely good hours due to the nature of the cases I'm on and the partners running those cases. At my firm, at least, the % of total worked time that's actually billed time is thankfully pretty high. Are you saying someone billed 14 hours a day every day?
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320 in two months *6 = 1920 If that's an outrageous number, how would anyone ever meet the 2400 hour/yr requirements that some firms have?
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Mar 11, 2012 00:58
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That's 40 billed hours per week. Even assuming a nice non-billable cushion, you're only hitting, what, 60 worked hours per week? Was this just the amount he billed, or the amount actually charged to clients?
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Mar 11, 2012 03:42
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Mr Gentleman posted:A first year in my class billed 320+ hours _before_ the end of _February_, but he by far exceeded the norm. I really just wanted to post that number because it's astonishing to me. But I have extremely good hours due to the nature of the cases I'm on and the partners running those cases. At my firm, at least, the % of total worked time that's actually billed time is thankfully pretty high.
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Mar 11, 2012 07:23
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Ani posted:Do you mean that he billed more than 320 hours in just Feb, because if so, that's crazy. If you mean that he billed more than 320 hours in January and some of Feb, that's not crazy at all - I hit 320 somewhere in early Feb this year. Nope, 320 just in February alone (a few days before the end of February, too) HiddenReplaced posted:Are you saying someone billed 14 hours a day every day? He got totally crushed by two different teams he was on getting hot on work at the same time (and some other unfortunate coincidences) Mr Gentleman fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 11, 2012 |
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Mar 11, 2012 18:20
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Not sure if this was posted, and I hesitate to share this because don't go die alone etc., but here's a report saying last summer was up 25% - http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/summer-hiring-year
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Mar 11, 2012 21:55
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sigmachiev posted:Not sure if this was posted, and I hesitate to share this because don't go die alone etc., but here's a report saying last summer was up 25% - http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/summer-hiring-year 125% of 33% (what I believe class of 2011 summer rates were compared to the "normal" amount a few years earlier) is still not great. edit: Wasn't saying you didn't get that, I just wanted to make sure prospectives don't think we're back to normal or anywhere close. Kalman fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 11, 2012 |
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Mar 11, 2012 21:58
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Kalman posted:125% of 33% (what I believe class of 2011 summer rates were compared to the "normal" amount a few years earlier) is still not great. Ya agreed, for a long time I was assuming it was a little bit better based on anecdotal evidence and now there's at least a stat we can nitpick.
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Mar 11, 2012 22:07
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There has been a little bit of movement in government jobs too. Not much, but certainly more than there was a year ago.
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Mar 11, 2012 22:11
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I think legal field will lag behind the economic recovery. It will take time for the corporate litigation to pick back up that runs the engine of a lot of big firms. The market will improve from the deadzone its been in, but I think we've got another couple years until it's business as usual. The glut of unemployed lawyers will take a few years to work its way out for new graduates to have a shot.
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Mar 12, 2012 01:46
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Are there any LSAT prep program you guys would recommend in particular? I've heard enough to stay away from Kaplan/Princeton Review, and I was looking at PowerScore/Testmasters. Is there any real difference between the two? (Besides the fact that Powerscore has all the books anyway)
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Mar 12, 2012 01:56
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Where are you located?
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Mar 12, 2012 02:03
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entris posted:Where are you located? Manhattan.
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Mar 12, 2012 02:05
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Paramour posted:Are there any LSAT prep program you guys would recommend in particular? I've heard enough to stay away from Kaplan/Princeton Review, and I was looking at PowerScore/Testmasters. Is there any real difference between the two? (Besides the fact that Powerscore has all the books anyway) Powerscore is the gold standard for LR. In my opinion the reason it's the most effective is because it teaches you very clearly how assumptions work on the LSAT, and once I had my head wrapped around that every LR question opened up. I think it's less necessary for Games and I actually prefer Princeton Review for that, but definitely check out both and see what you're more comfortable with.
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Mar 12, 2012 02:21
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prussian advisor posted:Does jury sentencing seem to result in lower sentences than judicial sentencing, or are the sentences just wildly different from one another (I'm tentatively assuming the latter?) Is it jury sentencing in all cases, or do the defendants opt for it like in Texas? I'm not sure, I don't have any experience in a judge/guidelines sentencing jurisdiction. In judge sentencing, a judge is going to have more information, which more often is worse for defendants. Jury trial and jury sentencing are mandatory unless the prosecutor, defendant and judge all agree to waive. Juries can be fearful, but judges fear for their next election and also get jaded. For most cases except maybe drug cases, I wouldn't want judge sentencing unless we had sentencing guidelines, and I wouldn't want guidelines from our current legislature.
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Mar 12, 2012 08:04
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PowerScore did wonders for my LG.
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Mar 12, 2012 15:08
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Mr Gentleman posted:Nope, 320 just in February alone (a few days before the end of February, too) quote:He got totally crushed by two different teams he was on getting hot on work at the same time (and some other unfortunate coincidences)
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Mar 12, 2012 15:41
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Ani posted:drat. I'm pretty sure I could hit 320 too if I got to bill time spent in the office twiddling my thumbs.
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Mar 12, 2012 15:55
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Ani posted:drat. I am always a bit more appreciative of my firm when I read crap like this.
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Mar 12, 2012 16:18
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commish posted:I am always a bit more appreciative of my firm when I read crap like this. gret posted:I'm pretty sure I could hit 320 too if I got to bill time spent in the office twiddling my thumbs.
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Mar 12, 2012 16:38
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Ani posted:It's not a firm thing, it's an individual thing. I work at the same firm, and I've never had anything like that - I don't spend time in the office when I'm not working, except during normal business hours. I also just don't work that much. I think having that happen to you is a combination of bad luck / working with the wrong people, and not having enough of a spine to push back. What about pressure to do more hours for partnership?
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Mar 12, 2012 18:16
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Zarkov Cortez posted:What about pressure to do more hours for partnership? Query: Is this a goal of a lot of people here?
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Mar 12, 2012 18:20
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sigmachiev posted:Powerscore is the gold standard for LR. In my opinion the reason it's the most effective is because it teaches you very clearly how assumptions work on the LSAT, and once I had my head wrapped around that every LR question opened up. I think it's less necessary for Games and I actually prefer Princeton Review for that, but definitely check out both and see what you're more comfortable with. Mmk, my LG are pretty good - my LR needs work. I'll look into PS. Thanks!
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Mar 12, 2012 18:32
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Paramour posted:Mmk, my LG are pretty good - my LR needs work. I'll look into PS. Thanks! If pretty good constitutes anything worse than missing 1 keep practicing because that's one section I think anyone can really dominate with enough work.
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Mar 12, 2012 18:54
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Zarkov Cortez posted:What about pressure to do more hours for partnership? I don't think making partner at my firm or peer firms in New York is realistically possible, so that's not something I (or other first years) seem to worry about, but it's still bad to be perceived as sucky because people won't want to work with you on good deals, and you'll end up doing lots of diligence or something equivalently lovely.
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Mar 12, 2012 19:14
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sigmachiev posted:Query: Is this a goal of a lot of people here? I don't think so, but I think firms and partners take notice of associates early and tend to focus on the development of those who may be partner material. Even if you don't want to become partner, you shouldn't act like you don't want to.
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Mar 12, 2012 20:03
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I just received an e-mail from one of the more senior alums in the city I work in asking if my firm was looking for first years. Apparently there's an unemployed 3L at Duke looking for a job in the region. So this is what it's like on the other side of the looking glass...
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Mar 13, 2012 00:06
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I have 15 days of classes left and 1 month and 8 days until my last exam. Giggity.
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Mar 13, 2012 00:51
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It's been a while since I've asked here: Any UCLA Law goons here? I need to check your online exam archive for a professor we're borrowing this semester.
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Mar 13, 2012 06:36
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http://abovethelaw.com/2012/03/the-u-s-news-law-school-rankings-are-out-2/US News Top 14 posted:1. Yale: no change. Other things of note: ASU had the biggest increase, up 14 spots to #26. UW moved up 10 spots to #20. UC Davis was down 6. I didn't see UC Irvine anywhere and thought this was supposed to be the year they debut. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Mar 13, 2012 |
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Mar 13, 2012 07:51
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Noooo, the school I transferred from moved up like 10 ranks so now it's no longer literally true that I transferred up over 100 ranks (only 99).
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Mar 13, 2012 13:20
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sigmachiev posted:http://abovethelaw.com/2012/03/the-u-s-news-law-school-rankings-are-out-2/ They're unranked, but UCI only opened in what, 2009? I don't think it's possible to even have the employment data necessary to rank them until their class has had enough time to fail to land jobs and/or secure work at Arby's to fudge the numbers.
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Mar 13, 2012 16:24
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19, woo. Higher than GW, which rejected me. Suck it GW.
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Mar 13, 2012 16:29
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yeahhhhhh Georgetown, Hoya Saxa Hoya Saxa! what a loving joke, all we did was cut down our night program.
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Mar 13, 2012 16:31
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prussian advisor posted:Does jury sentencing seem to result in lower sentences than judicial sentencing, or are the sentences just wildly different from one another (I'm tentatively assuming the latter?) Guy went to trial for possession of meth and possession of paraphernalia. (The meth was residue found in the syringe) Sentence? Life.
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Mar 13, 2012 16:51
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joat mon posted:From this morning's batch of unpublished opinions, Oh come on that's just as bad as a news reporter. Did the guy have priors? What other factors played a role in him getting a life sentence?
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Mar 13, 2012 16:52
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Paramour posted:Are there any LSAT prep program you guys would recommend in particular? I've heard enough to stay away from Kaplan/Princeton Review, and I was looking at PowerScore/Testmasters. Is there any real difference between the two? (Besides the fact that Powerscore has all the books anyway)
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Mar 13, 2012 16:56
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entris posted:Oh come on that's just as bad as a news reporter. Did the guy have priors? What other factors played a role in him getting a life sentence? I understand the Supreme Court doesn't care either (see the CA shoplifting/petty theft cases) but life for meth residue just isn't right. The reporter would probably add that he was a large, scarred, scary black man being tried in a rural county whose african-american population is less than 3% of the total. Although there was a Batson issue, the court deferred without analysis to the conclusion of the trial judge that the strike was without discriminatory intent.
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Mar 13, 2012 17:32
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entris posted:Oh come on that's just as bad as a news reporter. Did the guy have priors? What other factors played a role in him getting a life sentence?
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Ohhhh I see. The charge for meth possession itself carried a life sentence? How the gently caress?  Sorry, I figured there must be other charges involved or something. (Not a crimlaw guy.)
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