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ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE
You get print consistancy with a PDF. You don't get that with HTML.

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spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

ease posted:

You get print consistancy with a PDF. You don't get that with HTML.

It's really nice to be able to send a document such as a brochure or a resume to someone and not get the formatting all screwed up because their default printer is set to Letter and your document was created to A4.

bellows lugosi
Aug 9, 2003

PDF is actually a great document format. It's a shame people always equate it with slow/clunky software.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

guys start a PDF thread. it's getting out of control here.

Mightaswell
Dec 4, 2003

Not now chief, I'm in the fuckin' zone.
Did you know that hello.PDF is actually a TIFF?

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


I'm starting to read reviews of the Lytro. Surprise, they're poo poo.

For example: http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/lytro-camera-review/

ease
Jul 19, 2004

HUGE
It's neat to adjust your focal point or whatever. Image quality wise, they look about as good, or maybe even less than an iphone.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

I'm starting to read reviews of the Lytro. Surprise, they're poo poo.

For example: http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/lytro-camera-review/

That doesn't look like poo poo, just like a very special-purpose sort of device.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007

JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:

I'm starting to read reviews of the Lytro. Surprise, they're poo poo.

For example: http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/08/lytro-camera-review/

Not poo poo at all, just the first generation of a future technology. I'm honestly surprised its not vaporware.

Trambopaline
Jul 25, 2010
This should be great technology for macro, because I can imagine you could get great fun with in camera focus stacking. Beyond that maybe the technology can be conceivably used to make more realistic artificial bokehs for the bokeh junkies rather than just a low effort gradiated gaussian blur.

I'm probably a bad person for thinking "MOAR BOKEHS" but surely there would be a market for people who want that kind of gimmick from their camera without forking over infinity dollars for a nokton lens?

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

Shmoogy posted:

Not poo poo at all, just the first generation of a future technology. I'm honestly surprised its not vaporware.

Yah, it's probably better to think of this camera as a proof of concept. The technology is awesome, and if that 41 MP Nokia sensor, or something similar, makes its way into one, you could get modern resolutions and good image quality along with the ability to change the focus point later.

One thing you might not think about is that the camera doesn't have to focus at all, which should make it extremely responsive for a non-DSLR camera (or even a consumer DSLR for that matter). No waiting for the AF to take a shot that goes by really quickly.

ass is my canvas
Jun 7, 2003

comin' down the street
CAN WE STILL CALL IT A PICTURE!? gently caress YO MAMA

http://www.annenbergspaceforphotography.org/video-gallery/digital-darkroom

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Photograph as reality is an absurd notion that should have died a long time ago.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
That's a really awesome video :)

Gibertjim
Mar 25, 2005
One morning a few weeks ago, I randomly checked a photog Facebook group I'm in, saw that a photographer in my area was looking for someone to help with post processing. Thinking it'd be nice to pick up some freelancing work, I sent him a message. 1 interview and 2 happy hours later, and I've got a full time job as an editor and photographer for a pretty cool studio. :banjo:

Prathm
Nov 24, 2005

Oh, goddammit.

I've been working in a sort of informal commitee/photo-group for the last 3 months.

We've been trying to convince the people in charge of this place:

https://www.godsbanen.dk/english

..that they need to give us room for a darkroom and a studio.

We were pretty much all set to formalise our club and begin applying for grants, recruit more members and so on. And then the lady who has been a big driving force behind our group pulls out. Because it didn't turn out exactly like she wanted.
It's this place or at home, over the kitchen sink, lady.

Any of you know any creative photographers/volunteer-work-types in Aarhus, Denmark, now is the time to give them a call. :(

Mathturbator
Oct 12, 2004
Funny original quote

Prathm posted:

Oh, goddammit.

I've been working in a sort of informal commitee/photo-group for the last 3 months.

We've been trying to convince the people in charge of this place:

https://www.godsbanen.dk/english

..that they need to give us room for a darkroom and a studio.

We were pretty much all set to formalise our club and begin applying for grants, recruit more members and so on. And then the lady who has been a big driving force behind our group pulls out. Because it didn't turn out exactly like she wanted.
It's this place or at home, over the kitchen sink, lady.

Any of you know any creative photographers/volunteer-work-types in Aarhus, Denmark, now is the time to give them a call. :(
You don't have PM enabled, but are you in touch with Gorm?

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006

Lmao Terry Richardson banged Lindsey Lohan, and now apparently she has creeped him out. That's pretty amazing since he's a right creepy oval office himself.

Prathm
Nov 24, 2005

Mathturbator posted:

You don't have PM enabled, but are you in touch with Gorm?

Can't say I am. Do you know him?

e: just bought pm's

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Reichstag posted:

Photograph as reality is an absurd notion that should have died a long time ago.

Yes, in general. But, I understand why in photojournalism they have a strict set of rules. Otherwise, we'd have the Foxification of photojournalism.

ass is my canvas
Jun 7, 2003

comin' down the street

A5H posted:

Lmao Terry Richardson banged Lindsey Lohan, and now apparently she has creeped him out. That's pretty amazing since he's a right creepy oval office himself.

She's into the daddy thing- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2111547/Lindsay-Lohan-wants-relationship-Terry-Richardson-following-steamy-night-passion.html

And daddy is into- http://snarkerati.com/celebrity-gossip/michael-lohan-accused-of-seeking-out-lindsay-lookalike-strippers/

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

torgeaux posted:

Yes, in general. But, I understand why in photojournalism they have a strict set of rules. Otherwise, we'd have the Foxification of photojournalism.

Sorry, but the idea of objectivity in photojournalism is just as laughable and it already exists as a farce.

Bape Culture
Sep 13, 2006


:stare:

Do we have to post words itt or could I have just posted the face? TIA soundmonkey.

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.


oh my

squidflakes
Aug 27, 2009


SHORTBUS
Terry Richardson is a prime example of someone who can take a negative trait, mainly looking, acting, and being known for being a creepy sex obsessed photographer, and by taking it to extremes has somehow transformed it in to a positive.

Or, at least a way for him to have become rich and famous.

squidflakes fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 11, 2012

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Reichstag posted:

Sorry, but the idea of objectivity in photojournalism is just as laughable and it already exists as a farce.

Sure. Weegee, one of my favorite photographers, staged photos. How shots are taken, point of view, lighting, are just as deceptive as post-processing. It's not that I think PJ is objective, I just agree with the concept of limiting deliberate post photo efforts to manipulate the scene.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

torgeaux posted:

I just agree with the concept of limiting deliberate post photo efforts to manipulate the scene.

Why? Being manipulative in the field, as an editor choosing frames, or as a subject, being aware of how you present yourself, is no different than doing post-work.

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Reichstag posted:

Why? Being manipulative in the field, as an editor choosing frames, or as a subject, being aware of how you present yourself, is no different than doing post-work.

Sure they're different. Most importantly, you can control the post-processing. Secondly, no matter how manipulative you've been in composing, it was still physically there. Cloning/content aware fill let you completely change the event.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
"Physically there" is ridiculous. Some photons of light hit your sensor in a certain way, and the context of that is completely fictive, determined by the string of people assigning meaning to the image created. Photographs are nothing but illustrations, the idea that they represent any sort of reality is a shared delusion based on the fact that they are visually similar to things we see.

e: Consider that the New York Times originally had photographs as part of their art department, because they recognized that they serve the same purpose as any other visual ullustration.

365 Nog Hogger fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Mar 11, 2012

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

Reichstag posted:

"Physically there" is ridiculous. Some photons of light hit your sensor in a certain way, and the context of that is completely fictive, determined by the string of people assigning meaning to the image created. Photographs are nothing but illustrations, the idea that they represent any sort of reality is a shared delusion based on the fact that they are visually similar to things we see.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you. "Completely fictive?" I get, and agree with your point to a degree, but you've just reductio ad absurded it.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

This is THE best thing

ass is my canvas
Jun 7, 2003

comin' down the street

evil_bunnY posted:

This is THE best thing

Yeah there probably is some driving force behind how messed up she is. Dr. Drew would always point out that porn stars were usually molested or abused when they were younger.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Reichstag posted:

Why? Being manipulative in the field, as an editor choosing frames, or as a subject, being aware of how you present yourself, is no different than doing post-work.

I understand your point and to a certain degree, agree with you: it is certainly possible to manipulate the shot to create something artificial. We should certainly not say that because a shot has not been post processed, it is therefore honest and true.

However, the key difference is that the photographer is reporting a fact, no matter what the viewpoint is, that certain set of facts does exist within the confines of a view finder. Even if you have have to stand on your head or put the camera in a specific location. As soon as you dig out the clone tool, you are creating fake information.

Compare it with reporting on a statement made by someone. You can certainly pick and choose which sentences to include in your report, and by doing so, distort the situation. But as soon as you start making up sentences and words that were not used, you are creating fake information.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

spog posted:

I understand your point and to a certain degree, agree with you: it is certainly possible to manipulate the shot to create something artificial. We should certainly not say that because a shot has not been post processed, it is therefore honest and true.

However, the key difference is that the photographer is reporting a fact, no matter what the viewpoint is, that certain set of facts does exist within the confines of a view finder. Even if you have have to stand on your head or put the camera in a specific location. As soon as you dig out the clone tool, you are creating fake information.

Compare it with reporting on a statement made by someone. You can certainly pick and choose which sentences to include in your report, and by doing so, distort the situation. But as soon as you start making up sentences and words that were not used, you are creating fake information.


There was a brilliant video I saw of a photographer giving a lecture about the reality of photojournalism. He was a photojournalist in Israel/Palestine and sort of just ended up taking a lot of pictures of photographers as well as he had a background in anthropology. I really wish I could find the link but I'll do my best to sort of try and sum it up. I found part of his footage here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Dx9LjnQOY

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
There are very few things in this world as reliable as gaff tape. I was hired for a video gig and most of the time there are podium mics that I tie into. This time it was a small venue and no mics, so I grabbed my mini tripod and taped up the directional mic to the wireless transmitter. We used to have a gaff tape thread.


untitled-0015 by AIIAZNSK8ER, on Flickr


untitled-0019 by AIIAZNSK8ER, on Flickr

The Affair
Jun 26, 2005

I hate snakes, Jock. I hate 'em!

They make fun of me at work for how stingy I am with the gaff tape. I don't feel it's a commodity to be used lightly so I get annoyed with the intern or my boss when they drop too much on something simple. I don't even like using "courtesy tabs" cause I think it's a waste.

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
When I was in college and did some minor sound production I was beaten when I used too much. I don't think gaff tape even needs a tab, it's so easy to peel on its own. Are they thinking that it saves time?

HPL
Aug 28, 2002

Worst case scenario.
The only time a tab is really critical is with packaging tape because that poo poo is a bitch to start without one.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Right, gaffer's tape is designed to be easy to peel off, so tabs are pretty superfluous.

Same goes for duct tape.

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

The Affair posted:

I don't even like using "courtesy tabs" cause I think it's a waste.
You're going to burn in hell, FYI.

Also I'm trying to imagine an assistant trying to work for someone voicing these kinds of concerns and I suddenly want a beer.

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