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Tanon posted:True. Hmm, I guess I need to put a list together then... Drop Aiyana & Holt and the Black 13th. You've already got covering fire templates and you have no anti-stealth. That gives you the dude. You might also consider Rhupert instead of Gorman. e: Also, Wishnailer for 15" slams bro
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Fast_Food_Knight posted:WarWitch Deneghra (*5pts) Its probably one too many arc nodes, but if thats what you have play it! Seether and warwitch siren help denegra as far as focus efficiency, which is handy.
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crime fighting hog posted:Crosspostin yellow Cygnar That is awesome. I like how you did the purple lance handle too.
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Verdugo posted:That is awesome. I like how you did the purple lance handle too. Yellow and purple compliment eachother pretty well, I almost considered doing purple Cygnar but decided I'd save that scheme for my Khador someday.
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crime fighting hog posted:Yellow and purple compliment eachother pretty well, I almost considered doing purple Cygnar but decided I'd save that scheme for my Khador someday. My Gorman is gold/yellow and purple and I love that color combination. I saw purple/yellow Khador and they look amazing.
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Well my good camera was stolen last month, just testing out a cheap point and shoot. I painted some more trolls for a tournament this weekend, my first Warmachine tournament. Should be fun.     
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Mar 14, 2012 09:42
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Hey Big Willy Style I'm pretty interested in those Skorne, and I own a full Space Marines army I am uninterested in. The catch - I'm pretty sure they are all painted. They've been painted two or three times so I can't remember if they are Salamanders or Black Templar off the top of my head. I can take pictures if you'd like.
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UnkleBoB posted:Hey Big Willy Style I'm pretty interested in those Skorne, and I own a full Space Marines army I am uninterested in. The catch - I'm pretty sure they are all painted. They've been painted two or three times so I can't remember if they are Salamanders or Black Templar off the top of my head. I can take pictures if you'd like. Hey man. Send me a picture anyway to wgirdler87 (at) gmail (dot) com . Close ups to see what their condition is like would be appreciated.
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LintMan posted:Well my good camera was stolen last month, just testing out a cheap point and shoot. I painted some more trolls for a tournament this weekend, my first Warmachine tournament. Should be fun. Although the paint job is nice, the flesh tone on those trolls makes their peanut heads that much more disturbing to me!
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Fast_Food_Knight posted:WarWitch Deneghra (*5pts) Thats a lot of jacks for Denny... I do 25 points and I have 2 deathrippers and a slayer. The deathrippers are basically walking arcnodes and usually die quickly. How do you play this list? Im interested as I haven't played epic Denny, nor do I go jack heavy.
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Played 2 games last night, both 35's. First one I was going to run scaverous, but realized I forgot my cephalyx overlords. So I grabbed a Skarre1 list I had handy and ran that. My buddy Dan brought circle all beast, with no stones. He basically took a 50pt list and cut it down to 35, and I felt immediately terrible because it was a horrible matchup for him. He had almost no infantry removal tools. His list had Kaya2, stalker, ghetorix, gnarlhorn, gorax, wilder. Maybe something else, cant remember. I had pskarre, reaper, ripjaw, helldiver, full banes+UA, full blood witches+UA, full mechtralls, warwitch siren. We roll scenario and its incursion, and of course the middle flag disapeared. He had no pureblood to deal with incorporeal blood witches in his face. I tabled him, I could have won on scenario but I asked him if it was cool if we played one more turn so I could feat and dark guidance (it was my first time running Skarre1 and I wanted to see what it looked like) So I lined up my second game against my Skorne padawan, who is a newish player. Instead of dropping Skarre1 on him, I said gently caress it and ran the scavvy list, proxying the cephalyx. I stopped for 5 minutes to eat, promptly had folding chair slide out of my hand, hit my army tray that was hanging a few inches off the table edge, and flip my entire 35 pt list onto the floor. It exploded into a giant mushroom cloud of bane thrall and converted scaverous parts. So I guess there is karma 
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PaintVagrant posted:It exploded into a giant mushroom cloud of bane thrall and converted scaverous parts. Serves you right for playing Cryx.
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Im so terrible with Scaverous, it really should have been the Skarre army that exploded. Scavvy was an innocent victim!
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Exmond posted:Thats a lot of jacks for Denny... I do 25 points and I have 2 deathrippers and a slayer. The deathrippers are basically walking arcnodes and usually die quickly. Like you said, I use the lights as walking nodes. The seether gets a free focus and only gets denny's if he's going in on a hard target, which is all he is there for. The siren power boosts a chicken jack if I need to run into position. The nightwretch never fires it's gun really. Withershadow and skarlock are there to play around with more spells/dispel upkeeps/upkeep a spell for free, just plenty of utility. The raiders are the only full infantry unit I own, otherwise I'd probably use banes. They are pretty great though with the sea witch to make them blast immune and give power swell they are useful for a lot of things. It's not a great list but I quite like it.
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I have some warhammer friends who are all getting into small warmahordes forces. I've had my eye on those gator men minis for a while, are they a decent force, and where should I start if I want to build a small group of them?
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Manifest posted:I have some warhammer friends who are all getting into small warmahordes forces. Blackhide Wrassler, Bull Snapper (or one of the other heavies plus Boneswarm), full Gatorman Posse, and your warlock of choice come out to 15 points and will own hard. This is how my gf started and now she beats me all the time.
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Manifest posted:I have some warhammer friends who are all getting into small warmahordes forces. They're definitely decent but suffer from some hard matchups. You really need to learn all of their tricks and utilize every ability to be able to deal with the tougher stuff later. They're tough as nails though and can steamroll poo poo in turn. The starter force Sulecrist suggested is solid. I'd definitely take a Bull Snapper because of his animus and go with either Barnabas or Maelok as your first warlock. Calaban is really tricky to play and very unforgiving of mistakes.
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Sulecrist posted:Blackhide Wrassler, Bull Snapper (or one of the other heavies plus Boneswarm), full Gatorman Posse, and your warlock of choice come out to 15 points and will own hard. This is how my gf started and now she beats me all the time. Awesome, this is what I was looking for. Thanks! I'll report back for sure!
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So, thinking of this: Vindictus Reckoner x3 Hierophant KEE+UA KEE+UA Zealots+UA Min Choir KEE Seneschal. 50 points, T4, so all pathfinder, +1 on start die, and all jacks AD.
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Feeple posted:So, thinking of this: That list just made my brain explode. How do you deal with stealth? Also, this list might not do well in a timed event -- that's a lot of pieces to move around.
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Pfhreak posted:That list just made my brain explode. How do you deal with stealth? Also, this list might not do well in a timed event -- that's a lot of pieces to move around. I'm pretty sure you deal with stealth by having more guys than they can actually kill before they are choking on your 20+ spell-immune 12/16 weapon masters and their zealot buddies. Cast True Path, book it up the field, jam the poo poo out of some objectives, repeat as needed. As a Circle player (who hasn't put the faction on the table since Gallows Groves came out), that list makes me want to choke kittens.
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stabbington posted:As a Circle player, that list makes me want to choke kittens. You're not alone there.
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Feeple posted:So, thinking of this: Wanna play that list. Don't want to assemble more than one unit of Errants.
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I'm about 4 errants and a reckoner away from being able to field that list, but painting 1 unit of them was bad enough. It looks like an amazingly fun list, vindy can spam troops better than ekreoss.
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PaintVagrant posted:
Ugh, I feel you PV. I had just finished assembling my converted Terminus and his bros when I tripped just outside my door and sent them flying into a snowbank. Luckily I was able to recover it all, but having a ton of poo poo break like that sucks. Willeh posted:I'm about 4 errants and a reckoner away from being able to field that list, but painting 1 unit of them was bad enough. eKreoss has a feat that makes it worth doing though.
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The Aberrant posted:
That's true, I can't even remember off the top of my head what Vindy's feat does. 3 AD reckoners is also pretty sweet, shame about the lack of vassals.
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Willeh posted:That's true, I can't even remember off the top of my head what Vindy's feat does. That's what makes this a piece of poo poo.
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Willeh posted:That's true, I can't even remember off the top of my head what Vindy's feat does. I run two vassals in pretty much every list now, with that and a minimum choir I actually have 44 points to build a list.
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The Aberrant posted:I run two vassals in pretty much every list now, with that and a minimum choir I actually have 44 points to build a list. I do that too, enliven on 2 jacks at the same time is so drat good. Also, when one of that jacks is an avatar, enliven on him is more or less essential. If Vindictus' theme would allow vassals, they'd be a shoe-in. But the bonuses you get are pretty sweet.
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I was thinking about that KEE list a little more. With RAT 6, they will have trouble against higher def infantry -- especially ones that take away healing. Thyra with stealthed, Def 16 daughters dealing grievous wounds might present a problem. Or bile thralls with occultation. Although, if you feat at the right time.... And three AD Reckoners makes me giggle. I've never really looked at Vindictus seriously before, but that list actually makes him seem alright.
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Pfhreak posted:I was thinking about that KEE list a little more. With RAT 6, they will have trouble against higher def infantry -- especially ones that take away healing. Thyra with stealthed, Def 16 daughters dealing grievous wounds might present a problem. Or bile thralls with occultation. Although, if you feat at the right time.... I'm thinking Zealots will bomb the poo poo out of frail high def infantry. Biles are a little more iffy but Zealots can pressure them too and I think KEE just slightly out-threats them as well even when they're stealthed. I think the list looks pretty solid on paper in the SR2012 format.
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I think the trick is making sure you keep the zealots from being jammed by the high defense infantry. Basically any theme list that allows 2 KEE unit attachments can go suck a gently caress, god drat those guys are obnoxious. "hey this UA and stupid solo gives us every rule in teh game, highfive"
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Arlaharen posted:I'm thinking Zealots will bomb the poo poo out of frail high def infantry. Biles are a little more iffy but Zealots can pressure them too and I think KEE just slightly out-threats them as well even when they're stealthed. I think the list looks pretty solid on paper in the SR2012 format. No disagreement there regarding the competitiveness. I wouldn't want to be on the other side of that list and I play Menoth. I'm just trying to think about what I would bring if I saw that list standing up against me. Maybe eFeora with a bonded redeemer + vanquisher and zealots? Without eKreoss, continuous effects present a not-insignificant threat to KEE. Dealing with those three AD reckoners is going to be a real fun time.  Maybe something like: Feora, Protector of the Flame (*6pts) * Dervish (4pts) * Redeemer (6pts) * Reckoner (8pts) * Vanquisher (8pts) Avatar of Menoth (11pts) Choir of Menoth (Leader and 5 Grunts) (3pts) Holy Zealots (Leader and 9 Grunts) (6pts) * Holy Zealot Monolith Bearer (2pts) The Covenant of Menoth (2pts) The Wrack (3 wracks) (1pts) Vassal Mechanik (1pts) Vassal of Menoth (2pts) Vassal of Menoth (2pts)
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Do errants have magic weapons, or are they just blessed? Inquiring minds want to know if I can jam them with incorporeal blood witches
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Pfhreak posted:No disagreement there regarding the competitiveness. I wouldn't want to be on the other side of that list and I play Menoth. I'm just trying to think about what I would bring if I saw that list standing up against me. Maybe eFeora with a bonded redeemer + vanquisher and zealots? Without eKreoss, continuous effects present a not-insignificant threat to KEE. Dealing with those three AD reckoners is going to be a real fun time. Without some lucky deviations on the bonded redeemer, you will have minifeated zealots (negating your shooting ability) in your face on turn 2 or 3, which means you can't touch them ever. Then, after you get rid of the zealots you still have 22 weapon master troops to deal with, one of which is guaranteed to have defender's ward on it, to the tune of 14/18. But yeah, AOE attacks like vanquishers & redeemers are the way to go. PaintVagrant posted:Do errants have magic weapons, or are they just blessed? Inquiring minds want to know if I can jam them with incorporeal blood witches Errants crossbows are blessed and magical but the swords are not, so if you could jam them with incorporeal stuff in melee, that could work. Willeh fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Mar 15, 2012 |
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Arlaharen posted:Wanna play that list. Don't want to assemble more than one unit of Errants. Goddamnit. This Feeple list, combined with the severe trouncing I received from a t4 eKreoss list I got at that Springfield SR2012 Tier tournament, make me want to play Protectorate sooooo bad. Menoth has amazing casters and infantry. I just listened to some podcast talking about how Vindictus is the worst caster Menoth has, but in the SR2012 meta, I would have to disagree. That feat combined with the Monolith Bearer minifeat is going to make it a real pain to get those guys off an objective. gently caress this game, and gently caress you goons! I need to stop reading this thread, so I stop getting inspired to buy little plastic mens. Edit: Come April 24th, I will probably be buying this type of Menoth army. (Plastic Errants!) Would it be worthwhile to work in a Sanctifier instead of tripling up on Reckoners? Sanctifiers could charge up on souls or something. Castigators look awesome, and have awesome fluff, but the lack of Charge+Combust makes me sad. dexefiend fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Mar 15, 2012 |
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PaintVagrant posted:I think vindictus' main advantage is that he has actual defensive stats and can play midline without dying like most menoth casters do. It's more or less sacrificial pawn that does that though, his stats aren't amazing or anything. eFeora plays the same game and does it just as well, if not better.
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