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zeroprime posted:For one, they're making a false equivalency http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence. The most offensive aspect of what Limbaugh said didn't even include any profanity or misogynistic slur words. Right, so far, the only person I've seen point out the hours Rush spent talking about what he imagines her vagina must look like after he issued what many falsely report as an apology was Stephen Colbert.
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She testified about her friend who needed progesterone pills to keep her ovarian cysts under control, had them denied under her plan, couldn't afford them out of pocket, and now suffers early menopause as a result. Never let anyone forget this.
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Arglebargle III posted:She testified about her friend who needed progesterone pills to keep her ovarian cysts under control, had them denied under her plan, couldn't afford them out of pocket, and now suffers early menopause as a result. Never let anyone forget this. I wish that friend would post to The Plural of Anecdote.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 07:33 |
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Arglebargle III posted:She testified about her friend who needed progesterone pills to keep her ovarian cysts under control, had them denied under her plan, couldn't afford them out of pocket, and now suffers early menopause as a result. Never let anyone forget this. The reason why Sandra Fluke was called a slut was because the Republicans are sexually aroused by inflicting suffering and death. A person dying of an treatable illness is like the cumshot in a porno to them, and they interpreted Sandra Fluke's description of her friend's troubles as dirty pillow talk.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 10:58 |
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My mom and I have both had our share of Facebook run-ins with conspiracy theorists, and the newest conspiracy seems to be the "inevitable" impeachment of "traitor Obama". My mom very quickly debunked the video she was linked. It was a bunch of smaller videos edited together, and she noticed one of the videos they used was Joe Biden speaking about Iraq 5 years ago, but they edited it to make him say "Syria" instead, implying he was going to impeach Obama. The video I was linked to is a bit less...subtle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkRcfy4t6CM&feature=g-u-u&context=G28b1048FUAAAAHgAJAA It's basically a shaky-cam video of someone discussing the articles on their website, located here: http://www.infowars.com/ I make it a habit not to trust YouTube videos for...well...anything political, so I checked out the site myself. It's your typical, run of the mill conspiracy website. An entire section devoted to 9/11 Trutherism, headlines like "The UN: A Eugenics Murdering Cult That's Killed More People Than Hitler" and a pretty mean streak in regards to Obama (The Traitor).
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 15:12 |
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Yeah, infowars is pretty (in)famous on the internet for being full of absolutely batshit insane conspiracy theories.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 15:21 |
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Why do they hate the UN so much? That's like an overarching theme that runs through all of their conspiracy theories. I remember reading in TFR's "overheard at the range" thread (or whatever it's called) that crazy people (overheard) there kept talking about the "blue helmets" who were coming to take your guns away. The UN is so...ineffective. What are they afraid of?
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 17:36 |
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To me it seems like there is a thread of rabid nationalism running through most of the anti-UN poo poo since its a supranational organization. They're afraid of someone else telling America, the greatest nation on Earth, what to do.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 17:45 |
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myron cope posted:Why do they hate the UN so much? That's like an overarching theme that runs through all of their conspiracy theories. I remember reading in TFR's "overheard at the range" thread (or whatever it's called) that crazy people (overheard) there kept talking about the "blue helmets" who were coming to take your guns away. There are some theories on why you would pick an enemy that can be portrayed as both large and threatening while simultaneously weak and ineffective.
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rscott posted:To me it seems like there is a thread of rabid nationalism running through most of the anti-UN poo poo since its a supranational organization. They're afraid of someone else telling America, the greatest nation on Earth, what to do. A lot of it is wrapped up in literal (read: frought with mental gymnastics and figurative equivalencies to support an a priori conclusion) readings of Revelations. The idea is that since there's ideas of the Antichrist becoming a powerful ruler of the world and giving everyone a mark, that's got to be tied in to literal ideas of a one world government (but of course the specifics of how the Antichrist's regime will come to power and what it'll do aren't literal, we can tie anything we want to those). Accordingly, you've got the UN which shows up and- oh poo poo! Supernational organization! Do you think maybe they're gonna elect the Antichrist (re: whatever politician we're most afraid of this year) as their leader and take our guns away and put chips in our brains? Why yes, yes we do think that. Because see if you take this one verse and squint at it the right way then [long, sustained farting noise]
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 17:55 |
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I had to stop that argument before it went anywhere. This morning I responded with the following:me posted:Infowars? Isn't Infowars a notorious conspiracy website? Looking at the page, it has entire sections devoted to New World Order and 9/11 Trutherism. which he responded with: him posted:Lol because the news you get is filtered FYI the UN was found sterilizing women in Africa google it as for the video he said google the bill. No joke if you do your research you'll find about 80+% of it is true I know exactly where these kinds of posts lead. Heck, just to reaffirm my understanding of these arguments, I already googled what he's talking about. Sure enough, literally every hit on the first page is a conspiracy website or blog. It would break down as follows: Me: [post about the credibility of his sources, mixed feelings towards conspiracy websites, perhaps a funny anecdote about The DaVinci Code] Him: [response of how the MAINSTREAM MEDIA goes out of its way to halt access to the real news stories because, I dunno, the Illuminati or some poo poo told them to] Me: [post about how he's conflating "posting conspiracy theories no honest media source would touch" with "these dishonest media sources are the only ones brave enough to post the truth!"] Him: [unironic application of the word "sheep", then a demand to prove his points wrong] Me: [several links to credible news sources proving his points wrong] Him: [response about how my sources are actually controlled by {boogeyman} and that my credibility has been lost by posting them] **Return to square 1 There. I just saved myself six frustrating hours of my life and two and a half hours of awkwardness tomorrow in class. edit: Though I did find it funny that even he admits that only 80% of what the guy's saying in the video he posted was true. That's 20% more understanding than most people I know who are into conspiracies.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 20:15 |
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A guy I went to college with years ago posts his tweets to facebook, constantly. I've been ignoring it as white noise until recently:quote:RT @Ty_You_Up Kennedy tried to sustain our currency with silver and they killed him for it. quote:Don't talk to me about your "right" to contraceptives when our government pays to keep women subjugated in foreign countries quote:People should never forget that the income tax and the IRS was created specifically to fight a war quote:“Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal.” - Martin Luther King, Jr. quote:RT @NDAA2012 10 Indications The United States Is A Dictatorship I feel like he's slowly going off the rails.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 20:17 |
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Some of the things that he is posting are technically true, it's just the conclusion that he's reaching from those things that is batshit insane. I'm going to take a wild guess though and say that he's a Paulbot?
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 20:26 |
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rscott posted:Some of the things that he is posting are technically true, it's just the conclusion that he's reaching from those things that is batshit insane. I'm going to take a wild guess though and say that he's a Paulbot? This tends to be how conspiracy theories work in general. They take factual information and derive absolutely ridiculous conclusions.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 21:32 |
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Dirty Job posted:I had to stop that argument before it went anywhere. This morning I responded with the following:
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 21:59 |
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red19fire posted:A guy I went to college with years ago posts his tweets to facebook, constantly. I've been ignoring it as white noise until recently: Did MLK really say that? Because its not true at all.
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# ? Mar 14, 2012 23:09 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Did MLK really say that? Because its not true at all. Mhmm. From Letter from a Birmingham Jail: quote:We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Even so, I am sure that, had I lived in Germany at the time, I would have aided and comforted my Jewish brothers. If today I lived in a Communist country where certain principles dear to the Christian faith are suppressed, I would openly advocate disobeying that country's antireligious laws.
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# ? Mar 15, 2012 01:41 |
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From Facebook, latest GOP outrage at something totally reasonable, and my response: http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/pool-closed-until-further-notice/ http://thehill.com/images/stories/blogs/flooraction/jan2012/hotelletter.pdf Took me about 20 minutes to find the letter and look into the whole thing, which is ultimately a non-issue as I explained. May be of help to anyone who hears similar poo poo.
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# ? Mar 15, 2012 02:14 |
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I work in hotels, and god knows my ownership companies biiiiiiitched and moaned and wah wah for weeks about the ADA compliance updates. The changes we ended up making made were: 1. Put a visual doorbell on maybe 5 rooms 2. Put a handrail in a new place 3. Push buttons on a computer for a bit And that was loving it. These assholes complained SO MUCH over what came down to 30 minutes worth of labor and some time spent in a system you hang out with all day every day anyway.
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# ? Mar 15, 2012 06:14 |
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Found on Facebook. Not racist.
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# ? Mar 15, 2012 23:44 |
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chesh posted:Found on Facebook. Not racist. This honestly just makes me want to vote for Obama more, just to spite this guy.
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# ? Mar 15, 2012 23:49 |
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Isn't Benelli a gun company?
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# ? Mar 16, 2012 00:14 |
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Pretentious Turtle posted:Isn't Benelli a gun company? Yes it is, and that's their logo. They are based in Italy and are known primarily for their line of shotguns, favored by law enforcement and military shooters.
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# ? Mar 16, 2012 00:34 |
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Stroh M.D. posted:Yes it is, and that's their logo. They are based in Italy and are known primarily for their line of shotguns, favored by law enforcement and military shooters.
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# ? Mar 17, 2012 19:46 |
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Helicon One posted:Why would any True American buy their shotguns from Librul Soshlist Urrrp? What better way to show them the error of their ways and encourage Capitalism?
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# ? Mar 17, 2012 20:10 |
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quote:Late Friday afternoon our President declared that he has the authority to take our property and our labor if he sees fit. More of the facebook lunatic. Dare I look up what innocuous piece of legislature is now the greatest threat of all time to whatever the Constitution represents this week?
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# ? Mar 18, 2012 22:07 |
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Just something I was idly wondering about: how many members of congress are in interracial relationships/marriages?
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 01:06 |
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Hey, when you guys get one of those emails/tweet/Facebook posts saying, "blah blah black people are racist because blah blah" how do you reply? I usually write about institutional racism but I'd like to find a one or two sentence response.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 04:28 |
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Oxford Comma posted:Hey, when you guys get one of those emails/tweet/Facebook posts saying, "blah blah black people are racist because blah blah" how do you reply? I usually write about institutional racism but I'd like to find a one or two sentence response.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 04:29 |
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jojoinnit posted:"Stop being a dick". "Why am I being a dick? Its racist to have a Black History Month. Can you imagine what would happen if there was a *WHITE* History Month? WAKE UP!" Edit: That sentence about should've been written with a lot more CAPS LOCK, spelling/grammar errors, and for reason I've yet to figure out, sprinkled with the mysterious three commas in a row.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 04:55 |
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Oxford Comma posted:Hey, when you guys get one of those emails/tweet/Facebook posts saying, "blah blah black people are racist because blah blah" how do you reply? I usually write about institutional racism but I'd like to find a one or two sentence response.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 05:02 |
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Oxford Comma posted:"Why am I being a dick? Its racist to have a Black History Month. Can you imagine what would happen if there was a *WHITE* History Month? WAKE UP!"
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 05:02 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Every month is White History Month. Non-Whites are deeply underrepresented in most public treatments of US history, and the plight of African-Americans is particularly glossed over." There. Two sentences. Okay, but can I add the dick line to that at least?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:"Every month is White History Month. Non-Whites are deeply underrepresented in most public treatments of US history, and the plight of African-Americans is particularly glossed over." There. Two sentences. March is Irish history month.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 05:07 |
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jojoinnit posted:Okay, but can I add the dick line to that at least? Armyman25 posted:March is Irish history month.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 05:25 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Yeah, but it also has St. Patrick's Day, so it balances out. What do you mean the Irish aren't all Catholic, like green, look like Leprechauns, have red hair, drink way too much and get into bar fights all the time? Next thing you'll tell me is the Musselmen aren't all terrorists!
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 05:46 |
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Oxford Comma posted:Hey, when you guys get one of those emails/tweet/Facebook posts saying, "blah blah black people are racist because blah blah" how do you reply? I usually write about institutional racism but I'd like to find a one or two sentence response. White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 11:14 |
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Here's the one I got today (from my laywer!)quote:I know you get a lot of garbage every day in your Inbox. This won’t take long to read. Take a moment!
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 13:36 |
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If anything those quotes would make me more likely to vote for him.
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# ? Mar 19, 2012 13:43 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 02:33 |
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp Not to mention snopes dealt with this. It's a mix of out of context quotes and outright lies.
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