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zyce posted:Holy balls, I just got me sum Topres!! Sharetime!
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Rexxed posted:It looks really nice, I really like the black on black legends! I'd love to try topres, but I doubt I'll buy one unless the price gets halved or I get a better job. The space bar looks to be a different shade of black, is that due to it being ABS plastic? The 103ub is $100 less than the 87ub at EliteKeyboards. Everywhere else in the world, they are the same price (that is, about $250) The space bar is ABS. All Topre spacebars are ABS, even from the different keysets you can buy.
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# ? Mar 18, 2012 07:31 |
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zyce posted:Holy balls, I just got me sum Topres!! Sharetime! What key weighting did you get?
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# ? Mar 18, 2012 10:01 |
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This thread needs more ALPS love. For typing it blows my cherry reds out of the loving water, I can't imagine anything better but am intrigued by this Topre talk. I have ALPS at work and am sad when I have to do extended typing on the reds at home. I mean, it's great for games which is more what I do at home now and obviously worlds better than a rubber dome, but still. Nothing beats a machine gun for typing. I wonder if I would like blues better.
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Dogen posted:This thread needs more ALPS love. For typing it blows my cherry reds out of the loving water, I can't imagine anything better but am intrigued by this Topre talk. I have ALPS at work and am sad when I have to do extended typing on the reds at home. I mean, it's great for games which is more what I do at home now and obviously worlds better than a rubber dome, but still. Nothing beats a machine gun for typing. I wonder if I would like blues better. For typing, I'm actually a little disenchanted by Cherry Blues. The key feel is very nice, for sure. It's satisfying in the same way that popping packing bubbles are. The keys are just too heavy for my likes, though. 45g is the perfect key weight for stress-free, marathon typing - at least for me.
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Kegwen posted:The Logitech Illuminated is the closest thing they have and it should be under $100. As a former UltraX owner, I'm pretty happy with mine. I do wish they'd just kept making the UltraX, though. EDIT: The illuminated has a "tongue" at the bottom. Big no-no.
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Perhaps it's best that I now keep my personal and professional lives completely separate.
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canada jezus posted:My wasdkeyboard arrived! Nice design! One question for a fellow WASD keyboard owner: Is the right side of your space bar noisier than the left? My WASD is pretty new and I noticed the noise on day one. I found the prongs by the actual metal bar to be loose and support told me it's normal . zyce posted:Holy balls, I just got me sum Topres!! Sharetime! That is one sexy keyboard, but the price.. Hate to do this but you don't have PMs. You didn't happen to play Everquest on Luclin ages ago, did you?
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CaptainPoopsock posted:Nice design! One question for a fellow WASD keyboard owner: Is the right side of your space bar noisier than the left? My WASD is pretty new and I noticed the noise on day one. I found the prongs by the actual metal bar to be loose and support told me it's normal . Well i didn't notice anything like that, i just checked and if i had to guess i'd have to say the left side is a tad noisier, or maybe just a slightly different sound, not even sure if its louder.
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glompix posted:For typing, I'm actually a little disenchanted by Cherry Blues. The key feel is very nice, for sure. It's satisfying in the same way that popping packing bubbles are. The keys are just too heavy for my likes, though. 45g is the perfect key weight for stress-free, marathon typing - at least for me. That was a step in the transition of key switches I made. Buckling Spring : To heavy, but nice Cherry Blues : A bit too heavy, but getting closer Tactile Clicky ALPS clones from Ducky : Current Work Cherry Reds : Current Home I may have skipped some steps in there like trying Black ALPS and what not, but coming to accept my wimpy hands was worth the buying and selling. I find I can appreciate most mechanical switches in one way or another, but when a long session of typing comes up I know what feels good.
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Gotta admit, that new corsair keyboards are pretty neat looking. Plus that wristpad and the rubber top wasd keys are a very nice touch. Only if they offered it in blue or brown... Thinking about getting zowie celeritas. Any thoughts? A friend recently got that new CM cherry blue keyboard for 65 and I was tempted but I need my tenkey for some reason...
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Well, my black widow has apparently bit the dust. I spilled a couple drops of beer on it (literally just on 2 keys that i could see, nothing underneath the caps ). Worked fine for another hour after drying off the tops. Enter and backspace keys then suddenly stopped working (they weren't even the keys liquid fell on, it was home/scr lk).
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Tedronai66 posted:Well, my black widow has apparently bit the dust. I spilled a couple drops of beer on it (literally just on 2 keys that i could see, nothing underneath the caps ). Worked fine for another hour after drying off the tops. Enter and backspace keys then suddenly stopped working (they weren't even the keys liquid fell on, it was home/scr lk). It sounds like maybe more liquid got into the keyboard than you thought. Check out: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?ti...rd+and+its+DEAD
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Tedronai66 posted:Well, my black widow has apparently bit the dust. I spilled a couple drops of beer on it (literally just on 2 keys that i could see, nothing underneath the caps ). Worked fine for another hour after drying off the tops. Enter and backspace keys then suddenly stopped working (they weren't even the keys liquid fell on, it was home/scr lk). Well if you feel up to a bit of soldering to check if the switches themselves are the problem you could swap the non-working switches with working ones from the keyboard. If that solves the problem WASDkeyboards.com sells individual switches that could be used as replacements, which would be cheaper than getting a new board.
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Grimey posted:Well if you feel up to a bit of soldering to check if the switches themselves are the problem you could swap the non-working switches with working ones from the keyboard. If that solves the problem WASDkeyboards.com sells individual switches that could be used as replacements, which would be cheaper than getting a new board. that's what im hoping. Looks easy enough to replace /shrug.
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I decided on the 45g weight, uniform distribution keys. I like them a lot, but heavy fingers don't rest on them as easily as 55g. The space bar does seem different than the other keys, and some people have some explanations above. The keyboard is obviously priced too highly, and you should get the 103-key if possible because it actually costs less. It's better than a Cherry MX/ALPS/etc, but not by $100. CaptainPoopsock posted:Hate to do this but you don't have PMs. You didn't happen to play Everquest on Luclin ages ago, did you? Dude, yes. That's 100% me Wonder who this is - I like to believe I remember every single name I ever came across in EQ. Man, I loved that game. (Edit: Added my AIM to profile temporarily, get in touch!) zyce fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Mar 21, 2012 |
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Ordered a pair of switches from wasd. Hopefully they're easier to remove than I'm thinking. I need to find my solder wick/sucker though.
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I am stuck between the G110, G510, K60, and K90. I really like mechanical keys but I think having a backlight is more important. I also dont like the idea of spending $150 on a keyboard but I also dont want to buy a POS. Go with the g110 and put the extra cash towards a second SSD?? Buy the k90 that has both mech keys and a backlight?? So, what to do...I am getting tired of tabbing between keyboards on newegg without making any progress.
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My Apple Wired Keyboard stopped fully working recently, and I'm considering replacing it. I like it because it's fairly minimalistic and lightweight, but it's still standard and doesn't pull weird punches like media center keys or that weird ergonomic design some keyboards have. Are there any keyboards that are similar to it out there worth considering? Or should I simply go with this one again?
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brewmeister posted:I am stuck between the G110, G510, K60, and K90. I really like mechanical keys but I think having a backlight is more important. I also dont like the idea of spending $150 on a keyboard but I also dont want to buy a POS. Go with the g110 and put the extra cash towards a second SSD?? Buy the k90 that has both mech keys and a backlight?? There are mechanical keyboards with LEDs that aren't those brands, but most are imported from Asian countries, so you end up paying a little extra for shipping fees, and if something breaks you're probably going to have to fix it yourself. That said, if you want a backlit mechanical for less than $150, going that route may be your best choice. This site is run by a vendor who posts on geekhack and distributes from China (the link is a cherry mx red board with led lighting, there are others on the site with different layouts/switches/led colors): http://www.vendio.com/stores/E-sports-Gaming-equipments/item/mechanical-keyboard-noppoo/new-noppoo-pro-mechanical-keyb/lid=23343570 PCHome from Taiwan also has $20 worldwide shipping and a fair selection of Ducky products including some backlit boards (usually the ducky shining): http://global.pchome.com.tw/?mod=item&func=exhibit&IT_NO=DCAH0X-A59860312&SR_NO=DCAH0X&ROWNO=49&tm=u Here's a thread on ordering from PCHome: http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?12854-PChome-%28Taiwan%29-20-Worldwide-Shipping-Promo. If you can't see the attachments which show what on the PCHome site does what, you may need to make a GH account. e: looks like PCHome might be down to $10 shipping to the US
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Pollyanna posted:My Apple Wired Keyboard stopped fully working recently, and I'm considering replacing it. I like it because it's fairly minimalistic and lightweight, but it's still standard and doesn't pull weird punches like media center keys or that weird ergonomic design some keyboards have. Are there any keyboards that are similar to it out there worth considering? Or should I simply go with this one again? It depends. How minimalistic do you want? Unless there's some specific reason you need an ultrathin keyboard, most people seem to think that a proper sized keyboard is superior for typing. For the $50 or so you'd spend on an Apple keyboard, you could buy a pretty good scissor-switch laptop-style keyboard (if you absolutely must have a flat form factor) with significantly better action than those flat apple keys, or else you're over halfway there to a cheap mechanical keyboard. I think the Razer blackwidow mac edition is like $62 right now on amazon, which uses Cherry MX blues. I don't know about the quality, but I've also seen Adesso Compact Mechanicals for $60, which also use Cherry blues and are 16" wide. Not exactly pretty, but they're not enormous or particularly ugly or anything. I guess if you really care about looks and don't really type enough to justify that over the Apple, you can shop around, but then it's completely down to your tastes. There's also ultracompact mechanical keyboards out there. I have a friend who swears by his Happy Hacking Keyboard, but it's a bit out of the price range. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 24, 2012 |
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Pollyanna posted:My Apple Wired Keyboard stopped fully working recently, and I'm considering replacing it. I like it because it's fairly minimalistic and lightweight, but it's still standard and doesn't pull weird punches like media center keys or that weird ergonomic design some keyboards have. Are there any keyboards that are similar to it out there worth considering? Or should I simply go with this one again? If it suddenly stopped working I'd be a little wary of purchasing another one. It looks like that's a scissor switch board, so here's a few popular models listed on the GH wiki (including the apple aluminum): http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All+About+Scissor+Switches&redirect=no#Some+Popular+Models I've only used scissor switches on laptops, so I can't make any personal recommendations.
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# ? Mar 24, 2012 22:01 |
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Anyone here have the Noppoo Choc Mini and care to toss out their opinion of it? I use the CM Storm with MX Blue switches at work, and I'm considering another mechanical for home as well.
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Pollyanna posted:My Apple Wired Keyboard stopped fully working recently, and I'm considering replacing it. I like it because it's fairly minimalistic and lightweight, but it's still standard and doesn't pull weird punches like media center keys or that weird ergonomic design some keyboards have. Are there any keyboards that are similar to it out there worth considering? Or should I simply go with this one again? I used the wired apple aluminum at work and liked it before I replaced it with the Matias Tactilepro 3, which I would also highly recommend (although it is heavy).
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I spilled some water on my Das keyboard and the keys stopped working before I was able to shut down the computer. Does that mean it's already short circuited and I should just order another keyboard now? I'll try again tomorrow but based on that I'm thinking it's already dead. Smells a bit like when my PSU died, but not sure if it's always been like that. Wendow fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Mar 25, 2012 |
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Wendow posted:I spilled some water on my Das keyboard and the keys stopped working before I was able to shut down the computer. Does that mean it's already short circuited and I should just order another keyboard now? I'll try again tomorrow but based on that I'm thinking it's already dead. It might be dead, but I'd wait a bit to find out for sure. If keys just weren't working it could be that there were just temporary shorts that will no longer be shorted once it's dried out. It's best to try to let it dry for a couple of days, then try it again. One day may not be long enough to evaporate all of the water down by the switches and in between the plate and PCB. Seal it in a bag with dessicant or dry rice. This GH wiki about spills in keyboards may be worth a read as well: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?ti...rd+and+its+DEAD
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Rexxed posted:It might be dead, but I'd wait a bit to find out for sure. If keys just weren't working it could be that there were just temporary shorts that will no longer be shorted once it's dried out. It's best to try to let it dry for a couple of days, then try it again. One day may not be long enough to evaporate all of the water down by the switches and in between the plate and PCB. Seal it in a bag with dessicant or dry rice. I didn't know temporary shorts existed , what/how do they occur? I tried to google it but couldn't find anything. I realized it's also the weekend, so I'll wait until Monday night to decide. That link was really useful, a lot of stuff that's good to know for the future, thanks.
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Wendow posted:I didn't know temporary shorts existed , what/how do they occur? When you spill water on your keyboard. Then the water dries, making the short circuit temporary...
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Johnny 5 is alive! Sorry, I love Short Circuit :X
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krooj posted:Anyone here have the Noppoo Choc Mini and care to toss out their opinion of it? I use the CM Storm with MX Blue switches at work, and I'm considering another mechanical for home as well. I Like mine (MX Blues). They cheaped out on the controller but made up for it y building it like a tank and using a higher-quality plastic that feels a lot better than ABS. I'd buy another in Reds/browns if I ever need another mechanical
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text editor posted:I Like mine (MX Blues). They cheaped out on the controller but made up for it y building it like a tank and using a higher-quality plastic that feels a lot better than ABS. I'd buy another in Reds/browns if I ever need another mechanical Ditto, but mx brown. I don't know anything about cheap controllers, but I love mine. It's the perfect gaming board for me. Coding feels great on it, too. The POM keys make it a little heavier of a feel than a Filco or Leopold, but that's what I want in a gaming board. POM rules. Only quibble is pgdn/pgup should be home/end instead, but that's easily remappable with AHK. glompix fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Mar 25, 2012 |
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I'm trying the swap caps lock and left control thing. Since the right control key is the one that I actually have trouble with, I'm also swapping the right control key with the ' key. So, I have both control keys just outside each pinky. So far, I think this is going to work really well.
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I currently have a Filco with MX Blues; how do they compare to Topres? I'm happy with my keyboard but more keyboards can never hurt KaneTW fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 25, 2012 |
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Has anyone tried Cherry Clears? I've never seen one in person before, but I have used the Blue and Brown along with the old IBM buckling springs. Is the difference really noticeable?
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KaneTW posted:I currently have a Filco with MX Blues; how do they compare to Topres? They are very, very different, but I think the two of them are my favorites for serious typing. Topres are the most like MX red switches out of the Cherry ones, but their force curves are practically flipped. Reds give more resistance as they reach the bottom of the press, while Topres have most of their resistance at the top. They're really drat smooth though. Like typing on butter. Mmmm.... Cream_Filling posted:Has anyone tried Cherry Clears? I've never seen one in person before, but I have used the Blue and Brown along with the old IBM buckling springs. Is the difference really noticeable? I was a little underwhelmed when I first tried clears, since I was expecting them to feel more different from browns, but they're a pretty cool switch. While they're just a little more tactile than browns, the heavier spring makes a big difference when you're using them for a bit. They do a feel a little tiring after coming from lighter switches (or even buckling spring), but they're significantly easier to avoid bottoming out on. They feel more... bouncy and less clacky than browns. Edit: This post brought to you by MX blues, 45g Topres, and MX clears. Happened to have them all hooked up to the same computer at the moment. Autolyze fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 26, 2012 |
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KaneTW posted:I currently have a Filco with MX Blues; how do they compare to Topres? They do not. Topre is the best switch of all time. Cream_Filling posted:Has anyone tried Cherry Clears? I've never seen one in person before, but I have used the Blue and Brown along with the old IBM buckling springs. Is the difference really noticeable?
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 02:43 |
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Well, cleaning my blackwidow, letting it dry, and testing it had it working.... For a few hours, then the keys stopped working again. Replaced the two switches, still nothing. I can still use this board as my htpc keyboard or something. Now I'm pondering getting another bw (stealth this time) once they stop being razer exclusive. Unless there's some other cherry brown board out there for around as much.
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This may have already been discussed in here, but this is a very long thread. So if I'm rehashing past discussion, I apologize. Is there any truth to the rumors that Logitech is purposely designing their non-gaming keyboards so that w+shift+space don't work together? (The rumors say this is to get people to spend more and buy one of their gaming keyboards.) My old Logitech S520 died, so I'm in the market for a new keyboard. I bought a Logitech K800 wireless on Amazon, but quickly noticed it and my MX Revolution mouse fighting each other's signal. With both on the keyboard responded slowly, with the mouse off it worked fine. This is apparently a known problem with that keyboard, affecting even the new MX Performance mouse, with no fix. So back to Amazon it went. While on Amazon I looked at the Illuminated Ultrathin keyboard, which is the wired version of the K800, and it was there in the reviews I came across people saying that w+shift+space don't work together. Apparently it's not just that keyboard either, it's all of Logitech's mid-range keyboards. Now, I realize how sometimes rumors just start without any truth to them so I thought I'd ask here. But if it is true, I couldn't possibly justify spending money on any Logitech product ever again. Which would suck because most of the time they make great stuff. And if it does turn out to be true, could I get a recommendation for a good, non-Logitech, $50-$75 keyboard?
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It's not that they design them that way on purpose, it's that it's cheaper to build them that way really, as my understanding of key rollover goes. So it's not something that they're making it do on purpose to segment their gaming keyboards or whatever, but it does have that side effect, I suppose. That said I used a logitech illuminated for about a year and didn't have much problem with it overall. You get used to not jump running in BF3 after a while.
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That 70s Shirt posted:This may have already been discussed in here, but this is a very long thread. So if I'm rehashing past discussion, I apologize. A lot of the logitech gaming keyboards aren't even N-Key rollover, they just design the matrix to not block on keys that are frequently used. For example, from the Geekhack wiki n-key rollover database: quote:Logitech G11 : 2KRO. Fails QA -Downarrow. Logitech refuses to talk about failure modes. I'd buy one of the better gaming mechanicals that offer N-Key rollover like the CM Storm Quickfire: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=CA-40GKCL1&c=FR&pid=3fc85ce174f6c7c913b483e4b4fdbf3c35ba7a2d78687e9a4c39249d0470b83b. It's sold at newegg, the cm online store, amazon, etc, but I happened to have the superbiiz site open because they often have $5 off codes, and I'm looking to buy one the next time I see a good coupon code.
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