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Abalieno posted:The interview is very interesting, especially the part where he explain names and some of the tropes. That loving laugh of his, goddamnit.
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mind the walrus posted:Well they did insert a brand new Lannister "Alton" who might be involved with this plot. Got to love the rules of TV where tangents just aren't allowed to exist, even if they dovetail with the narrative later on. I choose to picture this new Lannister as Alton Brown, to fit Gurm's love of food.
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Abalieno posted:The interview is very interesting, especially the part where he explain names and some of the tropes. I think Martin lets slip about the Aegon / Dany issue in Part 2 of the interview (when discussing what has happened to the Starks, Lannisters and Baratheons).
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GordonTheDeadFish posted:That loving laugh of his, goddamnit.
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empty sea posted:There is nothing Robb can do to seem anything but ridiculously idiotic. Even the actor has that perfect Determined But Stupid face. Oh, you Starks. Too honorable to take the Iron Throne while you had the chance, too stupid to live. Yeah, but if it's a Lannister there's the potential hostage situation, the potential for backdoor communications, etc. etc. If it's some nobody he has literally no strategic reason, even idiotic ones, that really drives home his honor bullshit.
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Ashrik posted:Oh my god, I can't believe that that is his voice. Now I'm going to read everything he writes in his voice and I'm going to hate myself. 3.45 mark is gold. Octy fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Mar 19, 2012 |
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Mar 19, 2012 07:18
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George RR. Martin rules!
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whowhatwhere posted:Yeah, but if it's a Lannister there's the potential hostage situation, the potential for backdoor communications, etc. etc. If it's some nobody he has literally no strategic reason, even idiotic ones, that really drives home his honor bullshit. lol backdoor
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Rape Jake. posted:George RR. Martin rules! He's an absolute fucker.
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Rape Jake. posted:George RR. Martin rules! Rape Jake. It's like Roland Deschanel grew up in Westeros before the world moved on; finally finds a companion and his first thought is to penetrate him. And it turns out Jake grew up in 2000s New York and ASOIAF came out on time.
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So does SER GREGOR.
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Maytag posted:He talks exactly like he looks. True story, the whole reason I read these books is that I saw that picture of him with his cat and said,"yep, there is no way that dude doesn't have this fantasy thing down pat"
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GordonTheDeadFish posted:That loving laugh of his, goddamnit. "Maybe Dany, because she's really hawt, EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH"  Really getting sick of the "journey" bullshit. "Let's say I was driving from Boston to LA..." GURM, the issue is you do not have a clue where you are driving to, you absolute fucker. edit: "low magic fantasy" 
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How the gently caress can you be so fat and so squeaky at the same damned time
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How can his beard look that terrible at his age? It's like a 20 year old who has never shaved in his life instead of the mountain man beard a man his age should be able to raise.
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I honestly don't like to listen to GRRM interviews because that guy makes me uncomfortable. He looks like someone who sweats cheese and barely hidden shame.whowhatwhere posted:Yeah, but if it's a Lannister there's the potential hostage situation, the potential for backdoor communications, etc. etc. If it's some nobody he has literally no strategic reason, even idiotic ones, that really drives home his honor bullshit. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the whole "Lannister mole" rumor is an outgrowth of the absolutely retarded Lannister worship some fans have. Y'know the type, the type who just loves thinly veiled cipher characters like Batman, The Joker, Deadpool, House, and Dexter but isn't developed enough to see that any such character's genius prowess is entirely fictional and unachievable. If the rumors are true it's also most likely part of some misshapen idea that the Lannisters (especially Tywin) need to be seen as absolute master manipulators and the Starks as foolish cliches. That "the Game of Thrones" needs to be something shown at all times, and that when one fails to think about the game for even a moment another will "outplay" him, taking the whole theme far too literally--even for a series that is literally a game about who sits on a throne. I'm being hyperbolic there, but the point remains. Maybe I'm just being a retarded fan, but I really did like that Jeyne Westerline showed up out of nowhere with absolutely no value to Robb beyond satisfying his teenage hormones and subtle Sansa-like sense of romance, essentially throwing his and everyone else's lives away for nothing. Not only that, but she shows up so far into the story that all but the thickest of morons have picked up on the theme that in the books's "reality" you can't indulge your desires and play with your responsibilities without consequence. Having her be a deliberate Lannister attempt to get the Freys angry enough to murder Robb seems ok when you first mull it over, but by the time you get to AffC and ADwD stuff where all the minor houses of Frey, Stark, Lannister, and Stannis start to rub up against each other it's just going to be another complicating wrinkle that's more trouble than it was originally worth, unless the showrunners want it to be another thing the Lannisters get away with, which seems fairly excessive considering how much they already get away with.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Rumor going around that Jeyne Westerling is going to be turned into a Lannister to create a Romeo & Juliet-type circumstance for Robb's arc, which seems supremely heavy-handed to me. That is the most stupendously loving retarded thing. I love it.
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From the previews I've seen it looks like Robb meets her in a war camp (like not during fighting) and if that's true I find it hard to believe she'd be a Lannister unless they're either going with the prisoner / slave scenario or full-out spy. Especially since she has dark hair and they just made such a big-rear end deal about the blonde Lannisters.
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It also makes the Freys war strategists in league with the Lannisters, rather than petty dickheads. God drat it.
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I also like how it says that Robb can't be interesting on his own, struggling to reconcile his juvenile love with the lofty expectations everyone foists upon him; ultimately breaking in a fit of passion and arrogance that nicely highlights his lack of experience mashing up against the most naive aspects of his father's honor. And Goons-forgive that Jeyne just be a sweet, provincial girl swept up in a conflict far bigger than anything she's ever understood with a supportive family seizing an opportunity they never thought they'd have; no, she has to be either a Lannsiter or a Lannister spy to add dramatic depth to her character. I'm so loathe to even get into Goon/Reddit "sexism" territory, but if these rumors are true it could even be argued as an "appeasement measure" to all the complaints about the (very real) sexism present in ASoIaF last season. Nevermind Brienne, Asha, Melissandre, Sansa, Arya, Margary, Dany, Cersei, Catelyn, and even Shae providing a wide and reasonably varied net of women with various degrees of power, coping with the lovely lot they have in Westeros and finding strength and victories where they can with their own unique strengths and weaknesses; we need someone we can point to as a "strong, conflicted girl."
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Tony Danza Claus posted:It also makes the Freys war strategists in league with the Lannisters, rather than petty dickheads.
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http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0 Even mentioned the voice. This is a fake GURM right? Has to be, right?
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Even mentioned the voice. Perhaps GRRM has a well-developed sense of self-sarcasm.
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0 What, what this? I don't even...
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0 Twenty to one that this was written as a "way to exorcise the worst version of me I've always been afraid I'll become," in the way the writers sometimes do.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Even mentioned the voice. It's at the end of the Dreamsongs, Volume I collection. After 600 pages of mostly good stories, it ends with this.
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0 What. Seriously? No way. Just no way.
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Octy posted:It's at the end of the Dreamsongs, Volume I collection. After 600 pages of mostly good stories, it ends with this. You have to recap this for us.
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nuncle jimbo posted:http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0 Christ's nipples on a breastplate. quote:She spent the rest of the evening finishing off the background and doing some of the fine detail on the heroine's gown. The hero didn't look quite right to her when she was done, so she worked on him, too. He was the usual dark-haired, virile, strong-jawed type, but Jessie decided to individualize him a bit, an effort that kept her pleasantly occupied until she heard Angie's key in the lock. ~~My Daario~~~
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whowhatwhere posted:You have to recap this for us. I don't have the story on hand and it's been a while, but I think it ends with Jessie being 'absorbed' by the Pear-Shaped Man. I don't know, the whole story is full of general creepiness. I think it's meant to be autobiographical too.
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Just buy Dreamsongs. There's actually a lot of good sci-fi stuff in there.
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IRQ posted:Oh I have to find this.  The actual illustration, from the book.
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Pity the illustration's not in colour so you could see the Cheeto-stained fingertips.
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I have this masterwork of The Gurm.quote:“No,” Jessie whimpered, backing off. e: OH GOD quote:“Go into my bedroom, you jerk, go in there right now and look around and come back and tell me what you see.” I'm just loving skimming this poo poo too. e2: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY GOD quote:The room was L-shaped, low ceilinged, filthy. The sickly sweet smell was overwhelming. Four naked light bulbs burned in the fixture above, and along one wall was a row of old lamps without shades, bare bulbs blazing away. A three-legged card table stood against the opposite wall, its fourth corner propped up by a broken TV set with wires dangling through the shattered glass of its picture tube. On top of the card table was a big bowl of Cheez Doodles. Jessie looked away, feeling sick. She tried to step backward, and her foot hit an empty Coke bottle. She almost fell. But the Pear-shaped Man caught her in his soft, damp grip and held her upright. IRQ fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 20, 2012 |
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