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Gnaghi posted:Would a few upgrades fix it you think? I'm asking cause this popped up and maybe I could get him down a bit on the price. I've been looking for a good deal on a WR250x for awhile and nothing is around under 5k. The problem is there aren't a lot of upgrades for them out there. Dunno if someone makes a BB kit for them or anything but by the time you get that installed you may as well have bought a DRZ.
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As it comes up every few pages in this thread, here is a really good explanation of what it is and why you back it in, by racer Christian Iddon Article Christian Iddon posted:"One of the key supermoto skills is backing it in, and it's not just about showing off," explains Iddon. "Backing it in does three things for you. It helps you make the corner because, with the back end out of line, the bike's already pointing in the right direction. Second, it evens out the load between the tyres – when you're braking hard all of the bike's weight is on the front tyre. By backing it in you reduce to that to perhaps 70:30 front/rear, giving the front tyre an easier time. And thirdly, you can still brake hard because although the bike's sideways, the front wheel's still pointing forwards and is still kind of upright.
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Z3n posted:The problem is there aren't a lot of upgrades for them out there. Dunno if someone makes a BB kit for them or anything but by the time you get that installed you may as well have bought a DRZ. There's a 290 bb kit and also mpfab makes a Turbo kit. The after market has grown a lot since the popularity started booming.
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Wasnt the D-tracker popular in other parts of the world? I would have to think the aftermarket is out there.
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Mar 18, 2012 01:57
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Can i bump a DRZ with a battery so dead not even the speedo lights up?
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henne posted:Can i bump a DRZ with a battery so dead not even the speedo lights up? Probably not, as it probably wont power the cdi. If you could get the motor spinning really fast, you might be able to do it.
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Mar 18, 2012 03:26
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henne posted:Can i bump a DRZ with a battery so dead not even the speedo lights up? If you've got a hill big enough to get moving pretty good before busting the clutch loose you could probably do it in 3rd. Be careful you don't endo yourself on accident, don't cover the front brake when you drop the clutch.
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henne posted:Can i bump a DRZ with a battery so dead not even the speedo lights up? Yes you can but you'll need some serious speed. Usual bumpstart speed is around 8 or so mph, I think it took 13-15 to get the DRZ started when my battery failed. Also you'll need to keep RPMs high for a bit to keep it running, or it might stall when charging voltage drops off as it gets closer to idle. If you can, disconnect the headlight too. Edit: oh this is starting in second too. Higher RPMs to get it generating voltage, the better.
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Mar 18, 2012 05:05
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So what you are saying is I should bump start it on my treadmill?
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henne posted:So what you are saying is I should bump start it on my treadmill? Just be careful, too much speed and it might wheelie 
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Gnaghi posted:Would a few upgrades fix it you think? I'm asking cause this popped up and maybe I could get him down a bit on the price. I've been looking for a good deal on a WR250x for awhile and nothing is around under 5k. A KLX250S is a fat, underpowered copy of the KLX300R. The latter pops up in plated form now and again, and they're the intermediate stage between 80s air-cooled dirt bikes and modern USD dirt bikes. I owned one and it was super-light and fun, but pretty brutish in nature and worse than the WR on the highway. You can get a 351cc kit and pumper carb for the KLX, but you may as well get a DRZ at that point unless you really really need a 6 speed transmission. Z3n posted:The problem is there aren't a lot of upgrades for them out there. Dunno if someone makes a BB kit for them or anything but by the time you get that installed you may as well have bought a DRZ. It doesn't need engine mods. If you need more power and you can't get there by gearing down and rowing the 6-speed transmission, you got the wrong bike. The suspension is modern and quite serviceable out of the box, though the rear shock is non-rebuildable. The other farkles are out there. MotoMind fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Mar 18, 2012 |
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henne posted:So what you are saying is I should bump start it on my treadmill? We will need pics please. It could be epic...
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Full disclosure: I will not be putting the drz on the treadmill, my roommates would not appreciate it and I like the house smelling the way it does. I'll probably just get a jump from someone.
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henne posted:Full disclosure: I will not be putting the drz on the treadmill, my roommates would not appreciate it and I like the house smelling the way it does. I'll probably just get a jump from someone. Pull the battery and have autozone charge it if you got time.
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MotoMind posted:A KLX250S is a fat, underpowered copy of the KLX300R. The latter pops up in plated form now and again, and they're the intermediate stage between 80s air-cooled dirt bikes and modern USD dirt bikes. I owned one and it was super-light and fun, but pretty brutish in nature and worse than the WR on the highway. You can get a 351cc kit and pumper carb for the KLX, but you may as well get a DRZ at that point unless you really really need a 6 speed transmission. Alright well I guess I really shouldn't settle since I'll end up being pissed about it later. WR all the way (or KTM 690 if a random bag of money falls into my lap). I could've sworn there was a video of some guy wheelieing a sumo on a treadmill, but apparently not. Which means someone has to make it.
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A couple of quick questions for all the supermotard owners here since I've been considering nabbing one in the last few weeks: 1) I live in Pittsburgh and as it appears right now the city seems to be "meh, gently caress it" on the idea of repairing the streets (case in point: we had a landslide on a major roadway that helped traffic flow out of the city back in January and there's still no word on if they've even started repairing it). When I'm riding the current bike, a 2000 Honda VFR, I find myself bouncing along the roads due to nothing being smooth and whipping side to side to avoid large cracks/potholes/etc. To be blunt, I hate riding a sportbike here. Would a supermotard make sense for lovely quality roads and make riding enjoyable again? Or is it just as stressful in your opinion? 2) Because I'm in the city I tend to get a lot of no-neck mouth breathers that take honestly 30 seconds to respond to traffic lights turning green. This means I spend a lot of time sitting in traffic in the city before I can get out of the area, as well as going about 10-15 mph max through the tunnels on my commute to work. The VFR tends to overheat a ton in this traffic, and I'd imagine a Supermotard would do the same. Are there supermotards with electric fans or other ways of dissipating heat, or do you have to keep it moving constantly? Thanks for answering my stupid questions. Every day I ride out I get a little bit closer to selling the VFR and quitting altogether, so I'm wondering if I'm using the wrong tool for the job.
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Yes, Wont be an issue, DRZ400SM
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Ripoff posted:A couple of quick questions for all the supermotard owners here since I've been considering nabbing one in the last few weeks: I take my DRZ on bad roads regularly. I usually am able to ride around 40-50 mph on roads that sport bikes crawl through at 10-15 mph. You're basically taking a bike built to go offroad, jump stumps and logs, traverse hill climbs and rutted roads on a street that at it's worse will be 1/10th as bad as some of the offroad trails you could take it on. Add in the ability to hop curbs, pop wheelies and do stoppies on demand all day long and you will be a changed rider. I drooled over the DRZ for almost 3 1/2 years. After getting one I am more happy than I thought I would be with it. The SM model in a city environment is stupid amounts of fun and it honestly encourages you to ride like a dong. Come to the Dong side....
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Ripoff posted:A couple of quick questions for all the supermotard owners here since I've been considering nabbing one in the last few weeks: Yup supermotard will do just fine. Another option is dual sport if you ever see yourself getting into mild trail riding. Their large wheels/tires and knobby tires make riding on crappy roads fun. DRZ is the answer.
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Sigtrap, can we change the thread title to The Supermotard Thread: Welcome To The Dong Side
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Olde Weird Tip posted:Sigtrap, can we change the thread title to The Supermotard Thread: Welcome To The Dong Side
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Ripoff posted:
Buy yourself a DRZ, they have fans that kick in. If you're really worried about it then buy one of these for it: http://epicmotosports.com/sisnerosspeedworksmanualfanoverrideswitchdr-z400ssm.aspx
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Ripoff posted:A couple of quick questions for all the supermotard owners here since I've been considering nabbing one in the last few weeks: What everyone else said. I can take my drz down lovely undulating gravelly potholed backroads flat out (at a whopping 97mph) and its the same as taking my SV at 30mph. I had a BMW F650 aswell and the DRZ is far more coomposed in rough conditions than it was, although not as comfortable to sit on for extended periods. The DRZ has an electric fan on the rad, but overheating is a rare problem in Irish weather. You may be able to beef it up, personally I wouldn't sit in traffic anyway (filtering is legal here)
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echomadman posted:What everyone else said. Man alive I wish filtering wasn't frowned upon in the US. I bet I could filter quickly and easily, but to be honest I'm terrified of a street justice vigilante cutting me off in their car. California riders have no idea how good they got it. Anyways, thank you all for the advice! I'm going to start scouring Craigslist and the local Suzuki dealers and see how much the DRZ goes for. To be honest, I was actually thinking of building one myself using a 400+ CC CRF or WR, but with everyone spreading the love for the DRZ I think it might be better off to start there. As for long distance riding on the DRZ I'd probably end up doing a few commutes on it to work every now and then, which includes some superslab time, but it seems that everyone agrees that the DRZ can do that easily.
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Since we're on DRZ talk, I found this interesting, I never realized that most dual sports were so saggy in the rear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_70YesH_87w aka, chrisyoursuchafatass.mp4
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Olde Weird Tip posted:Since we're on DRZ talk, I found this interesting, I never realized that most dual sports were so saggy in the rear I set my ride up according to that video and a write up on TT, but I misjudged and was just a wee bit light for the suspension when it was fully stock. The new tank filled with fuel puts me exactly where I should be and I can attest it feels much better.
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Ripoff posted:Anyways, thank you all for the advice! I'm going to start scouring Craigslist and the local Suzuki dealers and see how much the DRZ goes for. To be honest, I was actually thinking of building one myself using a 400+ CC CRF or WR, but with everyone spreading the love for the DRZ I think it might be better off to start there. CRF/WR based supermotos are a lot of fun but are more maintenance intensive (10hr oil change and valve checks)and really don't make that great of bikes for the street...especially for daily riding. I've got a CRF450R motard and while it is an absolute monster of a bike and I love it the thing has been to work twice in the year or so I've owned it and I reserve riding it for track days, mountain riding (trailer it there) or riding like a dong. The DRZ is bullet proof and you don't have to worry about it. Maintenance is cheap and easy. For a bike that you plan on riding more than once or twice a week get a DRZ.
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Repost from reddit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3w-iZAJBcA Police chase, or just another day on an Husky? You know its not in the states when the police don't beat his rear end.
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Gullous posted:Repost from reddit: There was no reason to take the inside lane on that left he crashed on, he knew incoming traffic was a possibility. His lane was clear and the 1/2 a second he shaved before wrecking wouldn't really have mattered.
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Gullous posted:Repost from reddit: Also, when he layer dan'd, he should have just picked it up and kept riding, right?
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SaNChEzZ posted:Also, when he layer dan'd, he should have just picked it up and kept riding, right? I don't see an issue with your logic. That was the first thing I thought. Followed by, you could have just ridden across the water...
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It got stuck under the guard rail, I think. Otherwise yeah, pick it up and keep runnin'.
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Check out all the cool poo poo I have waiting to go on my DRZ. Rim Tape, case protectors, manual CCT. cap on coil upgrade (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIFwXtiYbhc) FCR39 I need to get some bits for the FCR, throttle cables and poo poo. if anyone's done the swap already I'd appreciate any advice you care to give.
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Two things that'll help some: 1) Move the right engine mount to the left side (it makes sense when you look at it), but you'll probably need to get new nuts, since they're locking, I think? 2) Attach the intake boot to the carb and then to the airbox.
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Endless Mike posted:Two things that'll help some: 1) Move the right engine mount to the left side (it makes sense when you look at it), but you'll probably need to get new nuts, since they're locking, I think? You can reuse the engine mounts, no biggy. If your carb has the plastic throttle cable protector, remove that first and then reinstall it once the carb is in the bike. It's a tight fit. You can rotate the carb around to get things lined up.
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Selling my DRZ tomorrow morning  Picking up a 690 smc in the afternoon  So excited I dont think i'm going to be able to sleep tonight.
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"[working title posted:"] Fair warning: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Have you ridden one before? ReelBigLizard fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Mar 23, 2012 |
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I've ridden a friends for a short while on a rideout, that's why I'm selling the DRZ that I have just how I want it. Test riding this one with a view to buying tomorrow. The warnings are welcome 
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"[working title posted:"] I envy you. I've checked everyday on craigslist for like the past few months and I have NEVER seen a 690SMC come up anywhere in Florida.
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