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Hey, Commission Joel came to another comic jam! Today he got the piece that he requested a few weeks ago. The girl who drew it had it out on the table and all I saw were some pretty colours, so I walked up to it saying "Ooohh! Pretty!" No it's not. Don't even joke about that.Turns out it was the cast of sailor moon all chained up and donning slave Leia costumes. They were being tortured and sexually pleasuring one of the Sailor Moon villianesses. She had covered a small portion with a postcard because it was very "NSFW". Sailor Moon had her back to the camera and it was covered in bloody whip marks. They were all being tortured, but they looked like they were enjoying it. When Joel finally came around to pick up his art pieces, he asked what my name was several times, told me to keep up the good work and suggested that I draw an Easter picture next time (I did a Valentine shark for him). "How about drawing the Easter Bunny as Rambo? And he could be killing a bunch of hens for their eggs! Haha! What was your name again? Keep up the good work!" One guy in our group had made the mistake of meeting up with this guy on his own to give him his commission. He ended up stuck at a Denny's with him for a whole hour. There really needs to be a tumbler called "I Drew This... Regrettably."
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Nessa posted:There really needs to be a tumbler called "I Drew This... Regrettably." I'd read this in a hot minute. One of my furry friends is an artist who makes her living on commissions, and she does some total weird poo poo she hates because the dudes in question will pay her. Fortunately for her (unfortunately for me as a storyteller), she doesn't do porn, so the worst offenders stay away, but she still gets poo poo like the guy who bought art of his anthropomorphic-Pokemon fursona who can detach all his body parts at will. How do people even come up with this poo poo?
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Antivehicular posted:I'd read this in a hot minute. One of my furry friends is an artist who makes her living on commissions, and she does some total weird poo poo she hates because the dudes in question will pay her. Fortunately for her (unfortunately for me as a storyteller), she doesn't do porn, so the worst offenders stay away, but she still gets poo poo like the guy who bought art of his anthropomorphic-Pokemon fursona who can detach all his body parts at will. How do people even come up with this poo poo?  http://sociallyunacceptableart.tumblr.com/ allows self-submission. I've been tempted so many times to submit old commissions to it, but I'm always afraid that people will find them and get mad and stop giving me money.
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the kawaiiest posted:I have a friend who is not a terribly good artist and every time someone says anything about her art at all she's like "I appreciate it but I'm going to SCAD so I know what I'm doing". I always wondered how she got in with her art which is basically just photos traced on Photoshop (I'm not kidding, it's really, really terrible, as in shaded with pure black and blended with the smudge tool terrible). Anyway she's going to SCAD for an illustration degree and everything that I've seen her and her classmates produce is meh at most. I was wondering what the gently caress -- now I know. No portfolio required? What a joke. Woahhhh ein minuten, bitte. Despite it's lack of portfolio required, SCAD has pretty amazing programs and a lot of people improve incredibly dramatically and get the weaboo stomped out in foundations courses (especially in the ILLU department), but I will say that 50% of the students that graduate from any of the school's programs will never get anywhere because of lack of passion/lack of willingness to improve/lack of ability. I was probably in the top 5% of my graduating class in Illustration as far as ability to tell a story with an image/level of draftsmanship ability goes (which I guess doesn't say a lot for them) and I learned a ton from them and I know it takes a lot to become a SCAD instructor (a masters in ILLU or 10 years of work experience). I can tell you right now that when that girl gets into one particular prof's class I'm thinking of and tries to pull the photoshop smudge tool poo poo, she will be totally and completely torn a new one. The higher you get in SCAD, the willingness to handle bullshit is highly reduced. But I guess the problem is even after she's torn a new one again and again, she STILL won't think she needs improvment and will still say she knows what she's doing because she goes to SCAD. I know all that was a de-rail, I'm sorry! I just felt the need to protect my alma mater :C (But really, you should probably go to MICA and just to let you know, Janice got into RISD on a portfolio of fairies and animes and they DO require a portfolio) stablercake fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Mar 23, 2012 |
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stablercake posted:(But really, you should probably go to MICA and just to let you know, Janice got into RISD on a portfolio of fairies and animes and they DO require a portfolio) They're pretty awesome; only downside is that if you walk more than 2 blocks in the wrong direction, you will get stabbed. (Warning: Chance of weeaboo goes up if they're taking side classes at JHU. Chance of pretentious rear end in a top hat goes up if they're taking side classes at Peabody*. Artsy + Geeky can be a bad combination, but Artsy + Musician means that you can never ever criticize them EVER.) *Likelihood of fedoras: 100% hyperhazard fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Mar 23, 2012 |
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I just can't take an art school that seriously if they have no portfolio requirements. I guess I'm just old or something. Oh well.
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the kawaiiest posted:I just can't take an art school that seriously if they have no portfolio requirements. I guess I'm just old or something. Oh well. I can see where you're coming from, but when the school has majors like performing arts, fibers, film, and sound design, it's probably a little harder to require a portfolio...
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stablercake posted:I can see where you're coming from, but when the school has majors like performing arts, fibers, film, and sound design, it's probably a little harder to require a portfolio... Nah. In this case "portfolio" becomes a blanket term for demo reels, videos, and anything that shows off your work. I'm with the kawaiiest - portfolios should be mandatory for top tier art schools. Then again, for them to get enough students to fill their roles and make money they might as well waive the portfolio requirement and just weed out the hopefuls after a couple years. That way they get 2 - 3 years of tuition before they send you up against Introduction to Concepts of Art 301 - aka the Terminator. "Oh, I guess we forgot to mention that you will build and be judged on the quality of your portfolio for the first time ever at this school and will be taken out back and shot if you fail to excel." Then it's time to slink back to community college or a state school and gripe to your friends about how things were *so hard* at the Academy of Fancy Arts and they just didn't get your vision and oh well you didn't care about all that elitist crap anyway. You can milk this kind of sour grapes for twenty or thirty years after the fact, easily. Edit: Heh, in retrospect I'm being kind of mean about art students. Several of my friends are Artists (though they all have day jobs). I've met plenty of nice artsy folks and some dingy ones too. Good times. CuddleChunks fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 24, 2012 |
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stablercake posted:I can see where you're coming from, but when the school has majors like performing arts, fibers, film, and sound design, it's probably a little harder to require a portfolio... Surely the fact that you are applying for a school specifically catering to art-type majors implies that you have a strong interest and/or talent in that particular field and if that is the case then you would have done -something- to do with it before applying, either through high school or independently? As I typed that I realised it wasn't true so I'm going to contradict myself. My girlfriend has a friend that left off applying for university quite late. She suddenly decided she wanted to be an artist. But she needed a portfolio and fast. Photography seemed the fastest option so she borrowed a DSLR and did a horrifically lame shoot where she covered my girlfriend in bacon and it was intended to be symbolic of women as meat objects. For a start, the idea was terrible, cliche as hell and uninspired. Beyond that, she had zero idea about shot composition, light or anything of the sort. She did not know how to use the tools she had (a canon 7D if I recall which is one of their professional range I think?), as she was just shooting on full auto. I doubt she knew about aperture or shutter speed etc let alone how to set them (I'm not a photographer either but I read the dorkroom occasionally). The shots were awful, even she could see that, so they were scrapped and I figured that was the end of that brief adventure. It turns out that she got into a bottom-of-the-barrel university without a portfolio because they want the money. I wonder if she has dropped out yet. Edit: CuddleChunks posted:Then it's time to slink back to community college or a state school and gripe to your friends about how things were *so hard* at the Academy of Fancy Arts and they just didn't get your vision and oh well you didn't care about all that elitist crap anyway. You can milk this kind of sour grapes for twenty or thirty years after the fact, easily. I know a guy who did exactly this except it was a drama school (actually one of the best in the country) but he claims he dropped out because of the other students being egotistical elitists. He is an elitist rear end in a top hat himself unsurprisingly, probably not used to being shown up by more talented students I think. Edit2: CuddleChunks posted:Edit: Heh, in retrospect I'm being kind of mean about art students. Several of my friends are Artists (though they all have day jobs). I've met plenty of nice artsy folks and some dingy ones too. Good times. In another life I would love to pursue an artistic career as I always enjoyed numerous aspects of it but was encouraged to stick to math and sciences instead. I paint from time to time but I'm aware how awful they are, likely due to a lack of fundamental principles that most art students learn in their first year. In short: nothing against art students either! Farbauti fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 24, 2012 |
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This isn't about anime,but I didn't have anywhere else to post. Goons told me to come here. Please excuse my bad English, and the text wall. Night of the Crazy Goths Let’s go back to around 2007. I was younger, naive and just moved out of my mother’s home (keep the woman-child comments to yourself, I’m aware of how pathetic my situation sounds). During my first semester in my new University I remember clearly a small group of Goths (Later I would find out that it was a strange mix of Goths, metal heads, emos and wanna be philosophers). They would always hide on a corner, all gloomy, never engaging in chats with anyone else outside their small group. It actually took one of my best friends dating one for these guys for the rest of them to start socializing with the world. I’m going to talk to you about…let’s call him Jose. Jose looks very Mexican, in the dark hair and dark skin way, not to tall, not to skinny and not to fat. And average person, isn’t it? Well…Jose is crazy. Like dangerous CRAZY. So much that I won’t be surprised if one of these days he ends in jail for murder. When I first met Jose, he was a total goth; dark eye liner, dark lipstick, black nails, long sleeves, lace and velvet, even if we were over 90°F. He would be always serious, not even a little smile. If you tried to be nice and polite, he would reply to you in a very rude way. Oh, Jose also had a girlfriend. Let’s name her Melinda. Melinda was also a goth, she would also wear black…from head to toe, and her hair looked like it had never met a brush. She is crazy too. Those were my first impressions of Jose and Melinda. And that’s how I knew them at first. Then let’s forward a year. One of them met one of my best friends. He fell deeply in love with her; I won’t talk about him because he is a nice dude, and has shown that has his feet on the ground. Because of him is that my friends and I started to hang out with the Goth Group. Let’s forward a bit more, it’s Halloween, and we invite the whole Goth Group. A few metal heads sneak in there too, and Jose brings people I don’t even know. That’s also where I learned that Jose and Melinda weren’t Goths anymore, they were Rockabillys. I don’t know a lot about the Rockabilly culture, but I’m very sure they were just trying to be “different”. The night is going okay, lots of booze, having fun, just having a blast. All the girls left their bags and purses in my friend’s room; just for safety…soon we learned it wasn’t so safe. Melinda decided it was time to look for her camera and take photos of all us being drunk fools. Hell unleashed. Melinda’s camera was gone. Someone stole it. Everyone looked around, we closed the doors and no one was allowed to leave the house. All the metal heads dudes started to search everyone. That’s when we found out that Jose’s friends had just vanished. I remember being outside, trying to sober myself and see what the gently caress was going on. Then suddenly I hear a shriek, a scream, quickly coming closer. Melinda bursts from the door, her hair a mess, her tights all scratched, covered in tears and stomping the floor. She screams and screams, to everyone. She claims she will murder whoever took her camera. Everyone tells her to calm down, that it’s going to be okay, etc. Then she vanishes back inside the house. I follow her inside, and go to a small unoccupied room I had. Jose is already there and so a couple of friends. Melinda was in the floor, she was nearly convulsing, crying, screaming. She was throwing a huge tantrum. Then she started to faint and say she couldn’t breathe. That’s when we all freaked out, and that’s when we called an ambulance. Once the paramedics came, and took her away with Jose, the party went bitter. Everyone simply stood there in silence, looking at each other…shocked about what just happened. Halloween was officially over. Aaah, you might think, Desperado, what the gently caress? That’s not interesting. Well, you see...here comes the good stuff. After this incident Melinda broke up with Jose. I don’t know well why, but she did, and she started to tell everyone every single private detail of their sexual life. How he should be with a shrink, how once he didn’t bath for a whole month and they would still have sex, how much she hated him and so on. Jose couldn’t take it. He went downhill; he became depressed and would start crying out of the blue. He even said he would kill himself because she was everything for him. But…it seems that didn’t last long. Another year passes and another big party takes places in my house. Think of a frat party, but without bros, and just a lot of people drinking until passing out. I had some romantic problems during that time, so I did what any sane person would do; drink and drink. I got so drunk that I couldn’t even walk straight. At some moment I left my home, and went to the store next door to get a coffee…I needed to sober up before I ended puking my guts out. I seriously lost the sense of time, because when I finished my coffee and went back home, the mood had changed. Some people had left. Others were just standing around chatting very seriously. Then my roommate and best friend came to find me, “Desperado! Where the gently caress where you?!! What the gently caress is wrong with you?! Someone nearly gets killed!!”  I blinked. I did my best to process the information. Someone what? WHAT? Then she started to tell me. During the moment that I was drinking lots of booze and getting my coffee, some girl no one had seen before was hitting on ever male and female in the house. She was really drunk, and probably had some sad serious problems to be looking so desperately for a laid. Jose was still sad, and feeling like poo poo because Melinda was dating someone else and she wasn’t there. This girl, let’s call her Rosa, comes and starts to flirt with Jose. In less than two minutes both of them are heavily making out already. The time passes and Jose needs to use the bathroom, so he leaves Rosa alone for a moment while he does his business. There was already a big line of people waiting to use the room, so it took him more than a couple of minute…let’s say like 20 minutes. When Jose returns he sees something that really makes him snap. His new conquer, that sweet Rosa is already making out with another guy. Perhaps some people would have felt like fools, or simply shrug it, or shake their heads in disappointment. That was not the case with Jose. For him Rosa was the new Melinda, her eternal love, the new owner of his goth heart and that man was trying to steal her from him. Hell unleashed…again. Jose found a kitchen knife, and pushed them apart. With one arm around the guy’s body and the other holding the blade close to his throat, Jose started to scream like a maniac. “I will loving kill you! She is mine!!” People panicked, my best friend was loving scared and kept telling Jose to put the knife down. But he didn’t. He started to move the blade closer. And closer. And closer. The guy was seriously starting to poo poo his pants by now because Jose was starting to cut. That’s the moment everyone reacted as fast as possible, a couple of guys pulled Jose away and others pulled the other guy to safety. Dude was bleeding. He was bleeding from the neck and crying, his friends took him away to look for a doctor. For your relief the wound was superficial and nothing serious, nowadays this dude sports a little scar on his throat. And Jose? It took around 10 minutes to make him put the knife down. He kept muttering how he was going to kill this person, how unfair life was and so on. When he was done with this weird psychotic moment, he left, leaving a very drunk Rosa that later was hitting on me. And once again, the party was over. The mood had been killed and everyone left home. All worried and whispering about one of the most scary moments of their lives. Jose was banned from entering my house since that day.
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CuddleChunks posted:Nah. In this case "portfolio" becomes a blanket term for demo reels, videos, and anything that shows off your work. I'm with the kawaiiest - portfolios should be mandatory for top tier art schools.
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I'm iffy on the portfolio thing. I mean, if someone wants to go to art school because they want to learn to become an artist, they have to already be a good artist to even be accepted. How would one with no prior art knowledge become a good enough artist to get into an art school without first going to an art school? I almost applied to an art course, and now I know that I wouldn't have been accepted anyway because of the portfolio requirements. At the time, I was in highschool and just drawing comics and bad art in my sketchbooks.
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Desperado Bones posted:This isn't about anime,but I didn't have anywhere else to post. Goons told me to come here. No one thought "hey, maybe we should call the cops on this dude who tried to murder someone?"
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Nessa posted:I'm iffy on the portfolio thing. I mean, if someone wants to go to art school because they want to learn to become an artist, they have to already be a good artist to even be accepted. How would one with no prior art knowledge become a good enough artist to get into an art school without first going to an art school? Any sufficiently motivated student should be able to learn the basics, either on their own or taking courses at a community college. You shouldn't be admitted to an engineering program if you don't know high school algebra, art programs should be the same way.
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Desperado - Hahah dang, those two sound like a perfect dysfunctional pair. Nessa posted:I almost applied to an art course, and now I know that I wouldn't have been accepted anyway because of the portfolio requirements. At the time, I was in highschool and just drawing comics and bad art in my sketchbooks. This is not to say that you have to be a good artist at the start, but you need to learn how to arrange your work in a manner that looks professional, allows clear insight into your technique at this stage of development, and shows off the very best of your work. For a competitive art school, yes, you already have to have basic skills down pat before they will bother with you. It's like a music conservatory - I am not going to get in based on my charming good looks, I actually have to be able to sing or play an instrument at an above average proficiency. Why? Because there are thousands of other schools out there that can train you in the basics before you come to them. If you don't make the cut, go to one of these other places, get your basic skills down pat and then come back. A state school or community college isn't going to care if you have a portfolio, we're talking about select private schools. The better high schools out there will help you assemble your first portfolio as part of going through their class. At the end you'll have a nice clean assortment of your very best work that shows off your skills as an artist. When I was in college I dabbled in photography and started assembling a portfolio. In the end, I realized my talents laid elsewhere but if I were to go on with formal training it would be expected that I had a book of 8x10's I could show to an instructor and they would be able to flip through and see my very best photos. What do I consider my best? What technique do I demonstrate? Am I a hopeless doofus who hasn't learned the rule of thirds yet or am I so far up my own rear end with macro shots and amateurish depth-of-field tricks that I'd be a real hassle to work with? Do any of my photos show a consistent theme, do they show any spark? Were the ladies *fully* undressed or was I stuck relying on blood relatives? That right there is a serious problem - if you can't arrange for proper artistic nude models then you might as well get your lame rear end the hell out of the art world. No one wants to waste their time on another boring rear end Ansel Adams wannabee when they could be training the next Mapplethorpe. Who cares about some dumb out-of-focus flower in a field of green when you could be stroking your beard and interpreting "My Nakedness and I - a triptych of nudes in bright sunlight". Because art school is about creating new artists and you must drop your bourgeois sensibilities and learn to embrace a more enlightened view of form and shadow and line. You know... ladyparts.
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Okay, I can see that. I went to highschool in the boonies and we didn't even have an art class past 6th grade. It would have been too expensive for me to take art class by correspondence, so I just tried teaching myself to draw and didn't learn a single thing.
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fork bomb posted:No one thought "hey, maybe we should call the cops on this dude who tried to murder someone?"
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Nessa posted:Okay, I can see that. I went to highschool in the boonies and we didn't even have an art class past 6th grade. It would have been too expensive for me to take art class by correspondence, so I just tried teaching myself to draw and didn't learn a single thing.
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the kawaiiest posted:You were probably trying to learn to draw by copying cartoons, right? That's not a good way to learn. Have a look at these if you're still interested in learning how to draw. They're a bit old but still pretty good, especially for beginners. Cool, thanks! I've learned a lot more in the least year or so since I've gone to a few life drawing sessions and know some people who will really bust my rear end about art, but I still have a looong ways to go and will check out those books. I wanted to draw comics, so I got How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way and a bunch of other "How To Draw Comics and Cartoons" books. Mostly though, I just copied what I saw in the comics I had. My old sketchbooks were at least 60% copied drawings. It's pretty shameful to look back on. Even my avatar is shameful and that was just 4 years ago. 
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Nessa posted:Cool, thanks! I've learned a lot more in the least year or so since I've gone to a few life drawing sessions and know some people who will really bust my rear end about art, but I still have a looong ways to go and will check out those books.  e: this book is also fantastic, by the way.
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Nessa posted:Even my avatar is shameful and that was just 4 years ago. Without wanting to be a creep or anything, I really like your avatar.  This thread has made me remember something that happened about a year ago. I was in Birmingham city centre, buying some clothes. Now, for those of you unfamilar with Englandish cities, Birmingham is a big city, the second largest in the country after London, and it was a Saturday, so there were lots of people about. So, I'm walking down the street, when I come face to face with a group of people...in fursuits. Not mascot costumes, but the full cartoony face type wold suits. Just walking around in fursuits. It was the most  and  thing I think I've ever seen.
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Konstantin posted:Any sufficiently motivated student should be able to learn the basics, either on their own or taking courses at a community college. You shouldn't be admitted to an engineering program if you don't know high school algebra, art programs should be the same way. The whole reason there's a portfolio requirement in the first place is so that admissions can figure out if you'll be able to handle the course load. If you can't draw from life and the program features a lot of life drawing, you'll drown in it. It's nothing personal. On a completely unrelated note: next story on the way. Comics in progress.
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fork bomb posted:No one thought "hey, maybe we should call the cops on this dude who tried to murder someone?" I'm really not sure why no one did. Perhaps because a few of my friends were smoking pot in the backyard and didn't want to get caught with possession. Also, just so you all know, Jose is going to be a paramedic. I'm kinda glad he is finally doing something with his life, as he dropped out of college, but...I don't know. He is still scary. Melinda blocked me and deleted me from her Facebook,along with the rest of my friends and avoids even looking at me in real life,I haven't seen her since she graduated from college. She might be currently unemployed.
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OldMemes posted:Without wanting to be a creep or anything, I really like your avatar. Maybe they are just going to reenact this trigger happy prank http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCrDgm_H678
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CuddleChunks posted:Your portfolio is your life is what I learned from friends in the art & architecture programs. They'd carry these huge cases around with them to keep all their drawings and sketches flat as they scurried from studio to the dorms for a quick bite to eat before heading back in to thrash away at their latest hell assignments. This is true. I did this all the time and banged into so many heads on busses. Portfolio required is definitely something that should happen in art schools, come to think of it you're (all) probably right, if you want to be in performing arts you should probably have a tape of the last time you were in a school play. I graduated and everything from a well-respected program without the requirement, but then I also was never really as overwhelmed as my classmates were because I already had the work ethic and determination that were related to my decent grades as well. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND if they required a portfolio, I would have never come across clown girl and her ilk and what a tragedy that would be. 
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stablercake posted:Portfolio required is definitely something that should happen in art schools, come to think of it you're (all) probably right, if you want to be in performing arts you should probably have a tape of the last time you were in a school play. I'd think an audition should be enough for that. I applied to the theatre arts program and absolutely bombed the audition due to nerves. Even though my school did have a drama class, we didn't have any productions that parents were allowed to attend and the school only had a camera because a student won it for them. We only got to use it once. :/ I was also in musical theatre classes, but our production was never filmed (I didn't know anyone with a camera) and the teacher took the lead role anyway.  Small towns. All my life, people have made the mistake of telling me I was very talented and that I could get into any course I wanted, no problem. It lead to a nasty let-down when I finally got into the big city and the real world. I'm only different from the people in this thread because I know how much better everyone else is and want to reach their level someday.
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So since the thread appears to have become "hosed Up People"-Central in general, not just for soulbonding weirdos, I shall tell the fanciful tale of Colin! Now it has been years since I last dealt with Colin, but those of us who encountered him still giggle at the memories, freakish as they were in the moment. Now, if you want to get a mental image of him, give him greasy, greasy black hair. A katana. And a trenchcoat. Plus a gold chain around his neck. But surprisingly enough no neckbeard or ponytail. (I actually have a picture of this lying around, but it'd probably be bad form to post it, right?) In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a nerd myself, and I encountered him through roleplaying, but at least I know how to not look embarrassing in public(or so I like to think). The first hints that something was off about Colin actually emerged through said roleplaying. He would latch on like a leech to any female characters, PC or NPC, like they were his mom and he was a confused child, letting them order him around and asking them what he should do in every situation. He also very rapidly got into some very weird erotic roleplaying that he hid very poorly, leading to such things as discovering his creepy online fetishes in the middle of other people's more or less wholesome roleplaying. The details of that don't need to be elaborated on except to say that he was very much into incest, brrrr. So, that's kind of weird, but what we're here for are his closer-to-real-life freakishness. He's no more succesful there than his characters are, fancying himself a GRAND AUTHOR and writing books about elves. Elven cousins. Most of his creepy erotic roleplaying was about cousins boning. WARNING BELLS. However, we can be assured that we will see his fiction on a shelf some day soon, with all sorts of five-star recommendations on the cover, because as he told us: He totally showed his mom the first chapters, and she thought it was awesome. Then Colin, at that point in his late teens or just into the 20's, decided that he should start dating. Specifically he thought he should start dating a girl who was 13 or 14 years old. Yes. Just like that. And he actually does it, and goes on dates with her, with her mom chaperoning, presumably to avoid her poor daughter getting felt up by this greasy creep. That ends up breaking off after Colin actually kisses her and declares that kissing is "creepy" and "weird." But he's a real go-getter our Colin, so he hasn't been away from her for more than a month before he decides he needs to hit on another young girl, at most a year older than the previous one. But there's a difference: This one already has a boyfriend, of her own age. But Colin knows he's BETTER than that guy, so he spends hours upon hours, for weeks, haranguing her in every way he can, trying to get her to drop the guy and date him. He even starts telling her and everyone in range about the creepy dreams he has where he talks to a mirror image of himself that tells him to keep at it because he can totally hook her if he just KEEPS TRYING. It ultimately culminates in him writing her erotic fanfiction. See, he knows what she looks like. And what her boyfriend looks like. So he writes a fanfic where a GIANT LIZARD meets TWO ELVES that just happen to look like carbon copies of the two kids. The lizard instantly kills the boyfriend-elf, then rapes the girl-elf, drinks her piss and eats her vagina. Not in any sort of euphemistic way, it literally takes a huge bite out of it and kills her. Around that point she realized there was no way to reason this creepy fucker into leaving her alone and basically just dodged him until he eventually found a hideously obese Canadian woman who wanted his attention. From that point on he basically faded out of everyone related's social circles, except when shared interests would reveal unto us more of his weird-rear end fetishes posted online. Either he now lives in his mom's basement or he's been arrested for crimes against nature. In retrospect it's really kind of odd that no one ever called any sort of authority on him for being a stalky fuckface, I guess the situation was just so bizarre that rational responses went out of the window and he so pathetic that no one expected we'd need anyone uniformed to intervene.
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Mar 24, 2012 22:35
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Konstantin posted:Any sufficiently motivated student should be able to learn the basics, either on their own or taking courses at a community college. You shouldn't be admitted to an engineering program if you don't know high school algebra, art programs should be the same way. No engineering program I've ever heard of requires students to have Differntial Equations under their belt before applying though. I attended one of the best Computer Science programs in the US, and maybe half of my classmates had never programmed before. We also obviously didn't have anything like a portfolio requirement. That said, the CS program certainly was a magnet for odd ducks... One guy bought a mall-katana and promptly named it and gave it an Important History. Yeah, a mall sword is historical, uh huh...
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eschaton posted:No engineering program I've ever heard of requires students to have Differntial Equations under their belt before applying though. Nessa posted:All my life, people have made the mistake of telling me I was very talented and that I could get into any course I wanted, no problem. It lead to a nasty let-down when I finally got into the big city and the real world. I'm only different from the people in this thread because I know how much better everyone else is and want to reach their level someday. The worst part of it is that I just never believe anyone who compliments my work at all -- my first reaction to a compliment is almost always annoyance because I'm so convinced that the person is lying to me the same way they would lie to a 3 year old. I tend to just say "thank you" and dismiss it completely. I'm working on a webcomic right now and it's a tremendous struggle not to scrap everything and pretend it never happened. All I see are my weaknesses and mistakes. Anyway what I'm saying here is "you're not alone".
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Mar 25, 2012 01:53
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A lot of bright kids have a tough time of it when they inevitably reach the stage where they're no longer the smartest person in the room. It's quite a normal thing.
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Mar 25, 2012 02:02
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Bongo Bill posted:A lot of bright kids have a tough time of it when they inevitably reach the stage where they're no longer the smartest person in the room. It's quite a normal thing. I seriously never showed any signs of being above average at anything, ever. I have no idea why they made that stuff up or why someone might have told them that. e: then again my mother was a crazy pagan who believed that homeopathy was real medicine and thought I was an indigo child so she's probably just nuts.
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Mar 25, 2012 02:16
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the kawaiiest posted:The problem wasn't that I wasn't the brightest, it's that I wasn't one of the bright ones to begin with. I don't know where my parents heard that I was gifted, I simply wasn't, at all. I was just a regular kid. My grades were always average or below average and I actually failed my art classes in primary school. The shift was weird for me as well, I owned the house in high school when it came to art and although I was still a bit above the average in the illustration department, I was nowhere near the best. It's bizarre to find that something you were told your whole young impressionable life by the people closest to you was totally and completely untrue. the kawaiiest posted:Life drawing is to an illustration student what addition is to an engineering student. It's not "advanced", it's literally the most basic thing you can do. 100% totally and completely accurate.
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stablercake posted:The shift was weird for me as well, I owned the house in high school when it came to art and although I was still a bit above the average in the illustration department, I was nowhere near the best. It's bizarre to find that something you were told your whole young impressionable life by the people closest to you was totally and completely untrue. I'm an average artist now, good enough that I can draw things that are cute and make some money on the side, but I really wish I'd been a little more self-aware back then and focused on something else instead. I'm sure my parents thought they were doing the right thing, though. e: just as I was typing this I got an email from my mom telling me about how amazingly talented I am and asking me why I don't apply for a job at the Disney studios or Pixar now that I live in America. 
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Mar 25, 2012 04:38
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the kawaiiest posted:The problem wasn't that I wasn't the brightest, it's that I wasn't one of the bright ones to begin with. I don't know where my parents heard that I was gifted, I simply wasn't, at all. I was just a regular kid. My grades were always average or below average and I actually failed my art classes in primary school. My parents got me before I knew I was supposedly the smartest in the room. Then I got sent to the school with other super geniuses and was overshadowed hardcore. I don't think I ever developed the "smart kid ego" because there was always someone better than me at stuff. Then I got to university/work and am now surprised how loving stupid some people are and can still get by. Maybe I am smart. Hell if I know.
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Mar 25, 2012 05:31
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the kawaiiest posted:Life drawing is to an illustration student what addition is to an engineering student. It's not "advanced", it's literally the most basic thing you can do. I think what people are saying is that art school is different from engineering because you can reliably pick up all the skills you need to be ready for an engineering program in high school. Art's being cut everywhere. Posters here have talked about not having art after grade 6. It's entirely possible to be denied the kind of instruction expected of "basic skills". It's also possible that top-tier schools are noticing it and rather than punishing kids for coming from art-starved schools, they take their tuition, offer to give them those basics and weed out the ones who don't belong in third year. As much as I won't defend the fact that higher education is a privilege and not a right (though that's changing quickly), and higher art education moreso, I don't think it's really that weird that a school has noticed and accommodated for a lack of education at the lower levels. Edit: I graduated high school and never once did life drawing of any sort. I did photography instead, so I at least got some concepts, but no idea. When I tried to put together a portfolio for art school I was totally confused (though ultimately successful, mostly I think because I took pictures of different things than other kids, and because the art school wasn't very good).
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Mar 25, 2012 06:01
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InEscape posted:I think what people are saying is that art school is different from engineering because you can reliably pick up all the skills you need to be ready for an engineering program in high school. Art's being cut everywhere. Posters here have talked about not having art after grade 6. It's entirely possible to be denied the kind of instruction expected of "basic skills". It's also possible that top-tier schools are noticing it and rather than punishing kids for coming from art-starved schools, they take their tuition, offer to give them those basics and weed out the ones who don't belong in third year. Not to mention: Top-tier engineering schools aren't going to admit you if you haven't taken any math past geometry. Your grades in your math and science courses, and the courses you chose to take, *are* your portfolio.
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the kawaiiest posted:e: just as I was typing this I got an email from my mom telling me about how amazingly talented I am and asking me why I don't apply for a job at the Disney studios or Pixar now that I live in America.
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