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thesteelhellion posted:True. I guess maybe I thought they'd have been willing to take a chance on him as a legitimate threat to ANYONE if that had happened, but that's just dumb wishful thinking on my part. Maybe that would have worked in a shoot-style puro fed. I think he'd have done great in BATTLARTS or some other shooty fed. RJPW is still stomping. I'd pay to see him and Tiger Mask slap and kick each other around.
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thesteelhellion posted:True. I guess maybe I thought they'd have been willing to take a chance on him as a legitimate threat to ANYONE if that had happened, but that's just dumb wishful thinking on my part. You gotta remember that Tough Enough Smackdown wasn't about finding the next star. It was really a vehicle for the Miz and a first look at some muscleheads they planned to train in DSW. They just wanted to haze/"make these boys pay their dues" so a guy like Puder fighting back was exactly the opposite of what they wanted and in probably the entire locker rooms eyes was akin to someone challenging a wrestler in a bar to a fight. Even though there is this silly reality show wrapped around it and these guys were legit supposed to be getting embarrassed by Angle, this was like a jobber stiffing a top star on WWF Action Zone to try to get himself over. It may not have felt like that, but you can sure as hell bet that's how the WWE viewed it. That's the problem with most wrestling companies trying to do anything for real. They want it to be real with pre-determined results because that's all they know.
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Lone Rogue posted:That's the problem with most wrestling companies trying to do anything for real. They want it to be real with pre-determined results because that's all they know. Case in point, Brawl For All.
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Perry Normal posted:Case in point, Brawl For All. Jim Cornette had a great rant about how the WWE most likely pissed away the millions of dollars they could have gotten out of a potential SCSA/Dr. Death feud in favor of a stupid legit boxing tourney that did absolutely nothing for anyone involved in it (well, except maybe Butterbean), and that completely ruined Dr. Death's "legit bad rear end" aura (which they had been hyping when he initially debuted). I'm not sure if it could have done business on the level of, say, Austin/Rock, but Williams could still go at that point, and there were still plenty of people at the time who remembered him as the "Sew me up doc, I got a match tonight" guy. Instead he got KO'ed by Bart Gunn.
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Zack's Dad is now on twitter.MisterRyder posted:My first tweet is dedicated to @TheRealMorrison. #RIPJoMo https://twitter.com/MisterRyder
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Grandpa Pap posted:Jim Cornette had a great rant about how the WWE most likely pissed away the millions of dollars they could have gotten out of a potential SCSA/Dr. Death feud in favor of a stupid legit boxing tourney that did absolutely nothing for anyone involved in it (well, except maybe Butterbean), and that completely ruined Dr. Death's "legit bad rear end" aura (which they had been hyping when he initially debuted). I'd argue that it did something for Bradshaw, as he got to show some legit toughness by making it to the finals, but by coming second he was able to avoid having his career destroyed by Butterbean. Other than that, agreed. I was pretty excited when Dr. Death started that run, it was a real shame he got derailed by such a moronic idea.
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# ? Mar 23, 2012 02:23 |
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Perry Normal posted:I'd argue that it did something for Bradshaw, as he got to show some legit toughness by making it to the finals, but by coming second he was able to avoid having his career destroyed by Butterbean. The biggest problem to me was Severn dropped out after week 1 and Shamrock wanted nothing to do with it because you think there could have been an angle there.
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Perry Normal posted:I'd argue that it did something for Bradshaw, as he got to show some legit toughness by making it to the finals, but by coming second he was able to avoid having his career destroyed by Butterbean. Like Cornette, I was amazed that the BFA was actually a legit boxing tourney and not a fixed event to set up Dr. Death's push.
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# ? Mar 23, 2012 02:38 |
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I have serious doubts that Dr. Death would have been a main event draw in the Attitude Era. That said, it doesn't change the fact Brawl 4 All was loving stupid and Bradshaw's original idea for it being just an ECW style hardcore division would have been much better. The only fun matches to watch from that are Steve Blackman ones because he was so incredibly better than everyone else.
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David Otunga posted:If imitation is the highest form of flattery, I'm flatter than Impact's ratings right now. #OtungaLaw edit: also, Dean Ambrose is now on twitter, so expect some fun between him and Regal twitter.com/TheDeanAmbrose posted:Get 2 FAN AXXESS. I'll be Wrestling, touching exhibits you're not supposed to touch and autographing female fan's buttcheeks all week.
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# ? Mar 23, 2012 14:58 |
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Hammond Edgar posted:Zack's Dad is now on twitter. Ziggler made a funny tweet about this saying that "the Broski Headband will get its own twitter next".
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Evan Bourne posted:I hate throw out bad news but I must. I was in an accident Monday and mangled my foot. Sorry to delay the comeback, I'm down but not out!
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Evan was the one who hit Cena in Philly obviously.
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smashpro1 posted:Bourne is injured. He's posted pictures, too. It ain't pretty - broken in 4-5 places apparently.
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Moose Bigelow posted:The biggest problem to me was Severn dropped out after week 1 and Shamrock wanted nothing to do with it because you think there could have been an angle there. Lol did they really think that Dr. Death had a shot in hell of winning the tournament legit? With a guy like Dan Severn entered in it? Like, if Severn had have not dropped out he would have just mopped the floor with everybody anyway. What a loving stupid idea lol.
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# ? Mar 24, 2012 13:46 |
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MacDougall posted:Lol did they really think that Dr. Death had a shot in hell of winning the tournament legit? With a guy like Dan Severn entered in it? Like, if Severn had have not dropped out he would have just mopped the floor with everybody anyway. The two best skilled guys dropped out early due to injury (Blackman and Severn) but that left it to the guys who had some boxing skill (Gunn and Bradshaw) to go long. Funny enough, the "Golden Gloves" guy in Marc Mero fought Blackman and got the floor wiped because Blackman kept getting takedown points on him. Williams was a tough guy but this wasn't bar fighting. It was stupid in so many ways.
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# ? Mar 24, 2012 14:24 |
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Just to play devil's advocate, Williams WAS a very good amateur wrestler in both high school and college. They might have thought what happened with Blackman against Mero could have happened with Williams against his opponents.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Just to play devil's advocate, Williams WAS a very good amateur wrestler in both high school and college. They might have thought what happened with Blackman against Mero could have happened with Williams against his opponents. Except Williams was a hell of a lot older carrying a lot more weight against much better strikers and even with all that said, I'd consider Blackman's martial arts experienced much more valuable than William's amateur ability. Jack Swagger is an ALL AMERICAN AMERICAN AMERICAN but would you put him up against a guy with Blackman's credentials?
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Moose Bigelow posted:Try this: http://boxrec.com/index.php Nope. To the best of my knowledge he was golden gloves in either Chicago or WV. And that's not a lot to go on. Edit: And not on the national list. He had more important things to do, like marry women in every state!
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Lone Rogue posted:Except Williams was a hell of a lot older carrying a lot more weight against much better strikers and even with all that said, I'd consider Blackman's martial arts experienced much more valuable than William's amateur ability. Jack Swagger is an ALL AMERICAN AMERICAN AMERICAN but would you put him up against a guy with Blackman's credentials? Absolutely, I'm just saying that treating Steve like he's legit is hardly a crazy idea. They did do it the wrong way though.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Absolutely, I'm just saying that treating Steve like he's legit is hardly a crazy idea. They did do it the wrong way though. Agreed. Make him legit with squashes, not by a goddamn shoot.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 01:05 |
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It sort of figures that Kana would follow my joke account and not my real Twitter. I still can't understand a thing she says.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 07:42 |
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TheHock posted:It sort of figures that Kana would follow my joke account and not my real Twitter. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Mar 25, 2012 |
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william regal goin ham on tyler reks right now
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 22:44 |
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The Shaman of Cum posted:william regal goin ham on tyler reks right now Worked shoots are confusing.
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Lone Rogue posted:Except Williams was a hell of a lot older carrying a lot more weight against much better strikers and even with all that said, I'd consider Blackman's martial arts experienced much more valuable than William's amateur ability. Jack Swagger is an ALL AMERICAN AMERICAN AMERICAN but would you put him up against a guy with Blackman's credentials? Steve Blackman's martial arts background was mostly in martial arts that are useless, or were useless in B4A. The only two useful skills in B4A were takedowns and boxing.
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MassRayPer posted:Steve Blackman's martial arts background was mostly in martial arts that are useless, or were useless in B4A. The only two useful skills in B4A were takedowns and boxing. Spin kicks are useless in no scenarios.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 23:28 |
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I will never get tired of MRP vs LR.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 23:35 |
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The Shaman of Cum posted:william regal goin ham on tyler reks right now Regal posted:Fact.I had more matches(lost them all) by the time I was 17 than Tyler Reks has had in his career.
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# ? Mar 25, 2012 23:49 |
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:Spin kicks are useless in no scenarios. But stick twirling is useless if you aren't near a forest.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 00:29 |
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In between burying Reks, Regal found time to say three words to me, which made the hell out of my day.
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oldpainless posted:I will never get tired of MRP vs LR. It's pretty one sided.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 00:59 |
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Perry Normal posted:In between burying Reks, Regal found time to say three words to me, which made the hell out of my day. Wait, I'm confused. Who's Stephen Fry in this situation, Brisco or Patterson?
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 01:17 |
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404GoonNotFound posted:Wait, I'm confused. Who's Stephen Fry in this situation, Brisco or Patterson? I was going to draw up a whole cast list, but I was just completely gobsmacked at how much Vince and the Queen are alike.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 01:31 |
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Vince is like Fry in Blackadder goes forth. Triple H is like Fry in Blackadder two since he is a giant suck up to the person in authority. Then Nursie would be Briscoe or Patterson bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Mar 26, 2012 |
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bobkatt013 posted:Vince is like Fry in Blackadder goes forth. I have to agree with all of this, particularly the stooges as Nursie, holy frigging lol.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 01:54 |
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Perry Normal posted:I have to agree with all of this, particularly the stooges as Nursie, holy frigging lol. But who's Flashheart?
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 02:00 |
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thesteelhellion posted:But who's Flashheart? Obviously HHH, yes he is playing two parts.
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# ? Mar 26, 2012 02:06 |
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thesteelhellion posted:But who's Flashheart? Edge. He will bang anything. Or Mark Henry since he is into transvestites.
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bobkatt013 posted:Or Mark Henry since he is into transvestites. Sorry, but he's BRIAN BLESSED. e: Or would that be Sheamus?
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