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JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

piss boner posted:

What brand bumper is that? Rough country?

Pro comp bumper. The hitch is not rated for towing but that's ok in my book

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Professor Awesome posted:

beep beep I'm a replacement Jeep



Found this today, we showed up with cash in hand and got it for less than the initial insurance payout offer. It's still not final but we have a Jeep in hand so I'm not gonna press too hard for more I guess? It's a pretty clean '99 with Selec-Trac and 130,000 miles. The only thing it doesn't have is cruise control, which I had a question about.

We've still got the totaled 2001 at my parents and figured I could steal most of the needed components from it. The guide we found, however, says you need a clockspring from a vehicle that hasn't had the airbags deploy. Out of curiosity why is this? I don't doubt the guy knows what he's talking about but what's different on the clockspring post-deployment?

the current surge to fire the squib in the airbag has been known to burn the wires out (or weaken them) on the ribbon cable inside the clockspring - if you reuse one, you risk not having a functional airbag.

'99 is a better year all around than '01 anyways, you lucked out. You can swap everything for cruise control except the clockspring from your '01 into the '99, if you had a '98 you'd need to find a different set of cruise buttons (cruise buttons are different 95-96, 97-98, and 99-01) but you lucked out with the '99.

Clockspring is around 140 from the dealer, or 10 bucks at most you-pull-it junkyards. They're not too difficult to pull, just bring a steering wheel puller, regular old socket wrench set, and iirc a torx set. You might have to recenter the clockspring before installation (if you don't, it can get torn the first time you turn the wheel to one of the stops) and you might have bad luck and get a dead one at the yard, but at that price, you have 14 tries before you have spent as much as you would at the dealer for the same part... that's the kind of odds I'll bet on. You're looking for part number 5600 9071, 5600 9070 is the non-cruise clockspring.

I eats my spinach
Jan 16, 2005

'sup gordon

kastein posted:

the current surge to fire the squib in the airbag has been known to burn the wires out (or weaken them) on the ribbon cable inside the clockspring - if you reuse one, you risk not having a functional airbag.

You can swap everything for cruise control except the clockspring from your '01 into the '99, if you had a '98 you'd need to find a different set of cruise buttons (cruise buttons are different 95-96, 97-98, and 99-01) but you lucked out with the '99.

Clockspring is around 140 from the dealer, or 10 bucks at most you-pull-it junkyards. They're not too difficult to pull, just bring a steering wheel puller, regular old socket wrench set, and iirc a torx set. You might have to recenter the clockspring before installation (if you don't, it can get torn the first time you turn the wheel to one of the stops) and you might have bad luck and get a dead one at the yard, but at that price, you have 14 tries before you have spent as much as you would at the dealer for the same part... that's the kind of odds I'll bet on. You're looking for part number 5600 9071, 5600 9070 is the non-cruise clockspring.

Thanks for all the advice and that makes sense about the clockspring, better safe than sorry. How do you tell if it's bad, can you test it with a multimeter or something or do you just get an airbag fault light when everything is back together?

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'99 is a better year all around than '01 anyways, you lucked out.

Out of curiosity what makes the '99 better than an 00/01 aside from the engine, I thought they were pretty much the same otherwise? I know 0630 heads aren't prone to crack like the 0331 heads they preceeded but our 01 had already had that happen to the first owner, and they installed a 2004 replacement engine with the redesigned TUPY head. That's the only reason we bought it in the first place and why I'm also still pretty bitter about its loss :emo:

I eats my spinach fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Mar 25, 2012

piss boner
May 17, 2003




JEEVES420 posted:

Pro comp bumper. The hitch is not rated for towing but that's ok in my book

Yeah, who cares. Looks good, man, thanks.

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast

Professor Awesome posted:

Out of curiosity what makes the '99 better than an 00/01 aside from the engine, I thought they were pretty much the same otherwise? I know 0630 heads aren't prone to crack like the 0331 heads they preceeded but our 01 had already had that happen to the first owner, and they installed a 2004 replacement engine with the redesigned TUPY head. That's the only reason we bought it in the first place and why I'm also still pretty bitter about its loss :emo:

High pinion front axle with reverse-cut gears. Not a huge deal if you don't put big tires on it and take it off-road, but the design makes it 30% stronger. The gears mesh on the drive side as opposed to the coast side, and the higher pinion keeps itself and the drive shaft up out of the rocks a little better.

Aside from that, the only real difference is distributor vs. coil-on-plug ignition.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Professor Awesome posted:

Thanks for all the advice and that makes sense about the clockspring, better safe than sorry. How do you tell if it's bad, can you test it with a multimeter or something or do you just get an airbag fault light when everything is back together?


Out of curiosity what makes the '99 better than an 00/01 aside from the engine, I thought they were pretty much the same otherwise? I know 0630 heads aren't prone to crack like the 0331 heads they preceeded but our 01 had already had that happen to the first owner, and they installed a 2004 replacement engine with the redesigned TUPY head. That's the only reason we bought it in the first place and why I'm also still pretty bitter about its loss :emo:
You could test it, but I'm not entirely sure it's a conclusive test - the wire could be weakened but not melted, and will thus pass the test but fail when it is needed.

Philip already covered the rest and is 100% correct. There are some O2 sensor / exhaust system changes but that all goes in the same bucket with the 0331 head and coil pack redesign.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

JEEVES420 posted:

Pro comp bumper. The hitch is not rated for towing but that's ok in my book

That's usually for legal purposes. You don't have a very high tow rating with a Wrangler anyway, so I wouldn't consider it a downgrade in towing.

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
Yeah, most aftermarket stuff is more than capable for suited towing duties but the mfg's are just covering their rear end from anything resembling liability. Most places that rent trailers like U-Haul won't even let you tow anything if you have a Wrangler.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.
I fixed my wiper transmission bushing with a washer and some electrical tape.

:sweatdrop:

Do I win a prize?

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Dorman doesn't have a bushing kit for that? I know they have an XJ/MJ bushing kit, took me about an hour to install... getting the drat mechanism in and out is the worst part.

Do aftermarket bumpers with receivers have loops for safety chains? I would suspect that is another reason they aren't rated for towing - aside from liability.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

FreelanceSocialist posted:

You might want to reconsider getting a Raptor if it's going to be your daily driver. The thing is huge. Like HMMVW-huge. And having actually driven one both on- and off-road, I would say that unless you live in an area with baja-type terrain, it's not as much fun as a Jeep. You can't take it on most trails, because of the width. The suspension, while nice for a production vehicle and for high-speed relatively flat courses, isn't all that great for low-speed crawling. Holy god does it suck in traffic. Did I mention it's loving huge?

For the price of a Raptor, I would recommend getting yourself an SRT-8 Grand Cherokee (like an '08 WK), which has plenty of go-fast on the road and then picking up an older Jeep for offroading. If you just want to offroad a pickup, get a used Toyota Tacoma and lift it a bit. And then you'll still have cash left over for when you want to push that SRT-8 north of 700whp or fix your Tacoma after you knock it around a bit on some rocks.

Looking back on my experiences with the WK SRT-8, I'll just say that it is scary when you really get on it. You'll be glad you have headrests.

Thanks a bunch for the review. My daily driver is a 84foot 144,000lb tanker so I'm fine with a larger commuter. I currently have an 08 Rubicon but my career has me up in Grande Prairie, Alberta which doesn't have rocks, but 1000s of miles of groomed dirt farm road. Also having just towed 5,000lb or so with the rubi through the mountains, a more capable light duty tow vehicle might be preferred.

If I do get a raptor, I will be leaving it factory stock except for a Whipple or pro charger blower.

If I keep the rubi I might consider Modding it to be a more capable pre-runner setup. Just a thought.

SinJin
Aug 2, 2008
For those of you that didn't know:

Jeep and Mopar will be at the annual Easter Jeep Safari in Moab and they'll be showing off at least two concepts. It's next week.

Boomerjinks
Jan 31, 2007

DINO DAMAGE

SinJin posted:

For those of you that didn't know:

Jeep and Mopar will be at the annual Easter Jeep Safari in Moab and they'll be showing off at least two concepts. It's next week.

Of course it's next week. Every 4x4 shop in Colorado has been booked solid for the past month.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
people take their jeeps to shops? :confused::aaaaa:

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


SinJin posted:

For those of you that didn't know:

Jeep and Mopar will be at the annual Easter Jeep Safari in Moab and they'll be showing off at least two concepts. It's next week.

Oh God, please force them to make both the FC and new Gladiator.

I will buy one of them. Either/or, I don't care. Please make the flooring washable to get the semen stains out from the test drive.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.

kastein posted:

people take their jeeps to shops? :confused::aaaaa:

People with money.

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

commissargribb posted:

People with money.

Jeep owners that have money actually break their jeeps?!

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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I didn't see this posted. Jeep copy of a unimog.



http://www.expeditionportal.com/vehicules/4x4/jeep/932-youve-seen-jeeps-new-concept-now-see-the-original-forward-control.html

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Are you kidding?

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


I would have said the same thing if it didn't have portal axles. I hadn't noticed that before.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Advent Horizon posted:

I would have said the same thing if it didn't have portal axles. I hadn't noticed that before.

Yeah. I like the old trucks this was inspired by and I like the portal axles on this one. I think it is cool that they did it instead of another wrangler with poo poo bolted on and an awful paintjob. Also, that blue color is the best color.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Holy poo poo, I have a huge boner.

Sponge!
Dec 22, 2004

SPORK!
Hmm, hopefully you guys can help me out here.

Firstly, let me state I have ZERO financial gain/loss to be had on this, so AFAIK asking isn't against the normal AI rules.

Long story short, my Uncle passed away last year, and my Mother is the executrix of the estate.

One of the items is a 1955 Kaiser-Willy's Jeep Pickup truck, plus spare engine/transmission/transfer-case.


The Jeep itself runs, with the usual prayer+starting-fluid.


The frame is rock-solid, the bed was rebuilt from scratch by said uncle recently, and the cab is more or less rust-free and was primered sometime in the fall.


Basically it has to be sold, and we're looking for a rough price on it. Amazingly enough it has a goddamned boner-fide clear title to it. So its not a reconstruction/rebuilt, it would be a genuine Antique here in PA.

We have all the "bits" for it, glass, trim, emblems, etc. Well I won't lie, lets say we have at LEAST 87% of the bits for it...

I'm hoping whoever buys it also wants the spare straight-six, the BW T-90J, and Dana 18 twin-stick.


So, help me find my rear end in the dark here guys, roughly what's it worth? (Aside from 3.2 tons of steel?)

Any of you PA or NJ goons nutty enough to maybe want it for yourself?

I eats my spinach
Jan 16, 2005

'sup gordon
So the salvage fee on the totaled 01 has been quoted as $900. The engine has about 105,000 miles on it and is an '03 or '04 with the redesigned TUPY head. It, along with its accessories and control equipment, seems to be undamaged along with the transmission, transfer case, 8.25 rear axle, and the rest of the body from the quarter panels back. The front axle took a solid hit on the passenger side and that lower control arm mount is bent, not sure if there's any more damage there as I haven't taken a good look at it yet.

$900 seems a bit steep but would it be worth it to part out?

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Sponge! posted:

Willy's

Guys, the name is Willys, no apostrophe. Pronounce it like Willis. Thanks.

infrared35
Jan 13, 2005

Plaster Town Cop
Welp, long story short, my third Subaru (a '99 Impreza Outback with 170k miles) finally picked up a repair that would have cost more than the car is worth (rear wheel bearings and hubs). Needing a vehicle to make a 1300-mile cross-country trek, towing a U-Haul trailer (which the Subaru did admirably a year ago), I made a desperate search of area lots. Considering that this is the south and 4x4s are rare here (also rare are vehicles with trailer hitches, apparently), and considering I had exactly two days to find, finance, and purchase an appropriate vehicle, I wasn't holding out a lot of hope.

I wasn't having a lot of luck; I tried the two dealerships in town that had the largest selection of used vehicles, and I tried a few smaller lots, but the only vehicle with a trailer hitch was a VW Beetle convertible. :psyduck:

But then I stopped in at a Kia dealer that is well known locally for having good service, and started poking around their used vehicles. The salesman showed me a couple that had hitches ('06 Chevy Equinox, '06 Buick Rainier, '02 Isuzu Rodeo) and the Rainier looked the most promising, but the salesman could tell I wasn't really happy with the selection. He said, "You know what? We took something in two days ago that we've inspected but we haven't detailed it yet, so hasn't been put out for sale yet."

I was intrigued when I saw it - I was hoping for something a little more economical, but I couldn't argue with its theoretical capabilities. And it would definitely be at least as handy as a Subaru when I return to the northern winters.

After a test drive with the wife, haggling over the trade-in value of my busted Impreza, and negotiating finance terms, I find myself to be a Jeep owner. :toot:

I know it's not a "real" Jeep, but I have no regrets. I now have a 2008 Jeep Liberty Sport 4x4. It appears to have the heavy duty towing package (including the transmission cooler). It has the fold-down front seat, which is nifty. It has the A/C outlet for the back seats. And it's in Jeep Green.

So... I've skimmed this thread looking for Liberty chat, and there wasn't a lot, especially about the new style. Besides checking the fluids, and tire pressures (they're apparently nitrogen-filled - what do I do about that?), is there anything else I should check out or look for before I hook up the trailer and head for the hills?

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

infrared35 posted:

Welp, long story short, my third Subaru (a '99 Impreza Outback with 170k miles) finally picked up a repair that would have cost more than the car is worth (rear wheel bearings and hubs). Needing a vehicle to make a 1300-mile cross-country trek, towing a U-Haul trailer (which the Subaru did admirably a year ago), I made a desperate search of area lots. Considering that this is the south and 4x4s are rare here (also rare are vehicles with trailer hitches, apparently), and considering I had exactly two days to find, finance, and purchase an appropriate vehicle, I wasn't holding out a lot of hope.

I wasn't having a lot of luck; I tried the two dealerships in town that had the largest selection of used vehicles, and I tried a few smaller lots, but the only vehicle with a trailer hitch was a VW Beetle convertible. :psyduck:

But then I stopped in at a Kia dealer that is well known locally for having good service, and started poking around their used vehicles. The salesman showed me a couple that had hitches ('06 Chevy Equinox, '06 Buick Rainier, '02 Isuzu Rodeo) and the Rainier looked the most promising, but the salesman could tell I wasn't really happy with the selection. He said, "You know what? We took something in two days ago that we've inspected but we haven't detailed it yet, so hasn't been put out for sale yet."

I was intrigued when I saw it - I was hoping for something a little more economical, but I couldn't argue with its theoretical capabilities. And it would definitely be at least as handy as a Subaru when I return to the northern winters.

After a test drive with the wife, haggling over the trade-in value of my busted Impreza, and negotiating finance terms, I find myself to be a Jeep owner. :toot:

I know it's not a "real" Jeep, but I have no regrets. I now have a 2008 Jeep Liberty Sport 4x4. It appears to have the heavy duty towing package (including the transmission cooler). It has the fold-down front seat, which is nifty. It has the A/C outlet for the back seats. And it's in Jeep Green.

So... I've skimmed this thread looking for Liberty chat, and there wasn't a lot, especially about the new style. Besides checking the fluids, and tire pressures (they're apparently nitrogen-filled - what do I do about that?), is there anything else I should check out or look for before I hook up the trailer and head for the hills?

Function test the lights on the trailer and make sure to pack ALL the guns.

infrared35
Jan 13, 2005

Plaster Town Cop

Ozmiander posted:

Function test the lights on the trailer and make sure to pack ALL the guns.

Done and done. :patriot:

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.
So with all the ghetto fixes that I've done to the windshield now my hard doors dont fit on anymore. The aftermarket stainless steel hinges are off-spec enough to not fit the pins on the hard doors and the extra bolt that I drove into the WS frame works with the soft doors but not with the hard doors. It's not REALLY a big deal just that in a few years when I have money I should invest in a new windshield frame with hinges.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Wow there's a lot more than that jeep-imog concept from Mopar, check out: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/28/jeep-talks-about-its-mighty-moab-concepts-on-camera/

Apparently there's a hemi V8 conversion kit for the Wrangler. They're showing a badass Wrangler with a 392 SRT-8 hemi in the video.

If I win the lottery I'm building a rubicon with portal axles, a 392 V8, and huge 42"+ tires. :mmmhmm:

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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infrared35 posted:

(they're apparently nitrogen-filled - what do I do about that?)

Please tell me that you are joking. Just fill them up. Most air is nitrogen. Also, pack extra fluids just in case you have a problem far from help.

mod sassinator posted:

Wow there's a lot more than that jeep-imog concept from Mopar, check out: http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/28/jeep-talks-about-its-mighty-moab-concepts-on-camera/

That JC-12 is clean and I want it very badly. I want it with a diesel.

Atticus_1354 fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 29, 2012

infrared35
Jan 13, 2005

Plaster Town Cop

Atticus_1354 posted:

Please tell me that you are joking. Just fill them up. Most air is nitrogen.

Well yeah, but there are warning labels and weird valve stems and stuff. :(

Any recommendations on fluids to pick up? I've still got the random stuff I had for the Subaru - oil, ATF, brake fluid, coolant...

Also, I'm a little confused about towing in hilly areas. Do I manually move the shift lever to 2 or does all that get taken care of behind the scenes when I press the "tow/haul" button?

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
What Yellow Top Optima will fit into my stock YJ battery holder? I tried looking it up and it seems like it says none of them will fit, and I checked amazon put in my jeep year and model and the results says the Optima 8012-021-FFP YellowTop Group 34 Deep Cycle Battery will fit, but then when I click it, it says it won't fit!

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

fyallm posted:

What Yellow Top Optima will fit into my stock YJ battery holder? I tried looking it up and it seems like it says none of them will fit, and I checked amazon put in my jeep year and model and the results says the Optima 8012-021-FFP YellowTop Group 34 Deep Cycle Battery will fit, but then when I click it, it says it won't fit!

You want a red-top for the starter battery; yellow-tops are deep cycle batteries (it says it right there!) and are primarily used for running winches, reserve battery, etc.

fyallm
Feb 27, 2007



College Slice
Whoops, is this the right battery? http://www.amazon.com/Optima-Batteries-8025-160-Starting-Battery/dp/B000MSBU9U

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
Optima's quality has gone downhill since they were bought up by Johnson Controls and started being manufactured in Mexico. Everyone I know that had one is using an Odyssey or Die Hard Platinum now.

That one will fit fine though.

Sandbagger SA
Aug 12, 2003

Giant Thighs.
Painted Threads.
Just Off the Highway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdn_AP25es

here's a good review of a Jeep.

Untagged
Mar 29, 2004

Hey, does your planet have wiper fluid yet or you gonna freak out and start worshiping us?

commissargribb posted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUdn_AP25es

here's a good review of a Jeep.

"It features a two-speed transmission and reverse!"

infrared35
Jan 13, 2005

Plaster Town Cop
Is there an approved way of lessening play between a ball mount and the receiver? This thing seems to move around a lot and it makes a heck of a racket when towing a trailer.

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Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

infrared35 posted:

Is there an approved way of lessening play between a ball mount and the receiver? This thing seems to move around a lot and it makes a heck of a racket when towing a trailer.

It should be a fairly snug fit if you're using matching sizes, ie a 2" draw bar in a 2" receiver.

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