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I somehow glossed over the fact that the X-Men are now considered the Ultimate Runaways. Was that just a total throwaway line or did I miss something where that was more official?
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Mar 12, 2012 02:16
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Myrddin Emrys posted:I somehow glossed over the fact that the X-Men are now considered the Ultimate Runaways. Was that just a total throwaway line or did I miss something where that was more official? It's a throwaway line/minor reference. It's not like Molly is hanging with them or Nico has joined up or anything.
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Mar 12, 2012 06:25
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Maybe I missed something obvious, but if the Spider-Men event isn't labeled Ultimate couldn't it be a teaser for a 616 story? Maybe they're gonna introduce a 616 version of Miles without crossing universes or whatever.
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Mar 12, 2012 09:20
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Sgt. Politeness posted:Maybe I missed something obvious, but if the Spider-Men event isn't labeled Ultimate couldn't it be a teaser for a 616 story? First thing that came to my mind was the reunion between Scarlet and Reg'lar. Surely would be entertaining, a visit between Morales and Parker.
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Mar 12, 2012 09:47
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Kaine is already running around as the new Scarlet Spider, so maybe it's just them teaming up. Or Ben coming back and teaming up with one of them (it would be more interesting to see him with Kaine than Peter).
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Mar 12, 2012 10:55
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Perhaps it's undoing One More Day.
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Mar 12, 2012 10:56
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Dacap posted:Miles meets Ultimate Andrew Garfield when they make a sequel to the in-universe Spider-Man movie. Given the players on the book and their propensity to acknowledge the movies from within the story, I'd say this is the most likely scenario.
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Mar 12, 2012 12:28
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If Bendis and Pichelli are involved it's more than likely an Ultimate storyline, but I doubt we'll see a crossover with 616. Isn't Ultimate Kaine/the scarred Parker clone still alive? I could see him trying to take the mantel of Spider-Man and Miles having to prove himself over an insane version of the person he's modeling his persona after.
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Mar 12, 2012 14:20
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Mister Roboto posted:Perhaps it's undoing One More Day. Don't get my hopes up.  I believe the logo they used was the new Ultimate Spider-Man logo tho' so it feels like it has to at least involve him.
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Mar 12, 2012 14:30
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ImpAtom posted:I believe the logo they used was the new Ultimate Spider-Man logo tho' so it feels like it has to at least involve him.
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Mar 12, 2012 14:36
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TheJoker138 posted:It's a throwaway line/minor reference. It's not like Molly is hanging with them or Nico has joined up or anything. No, I get that, what I meant was does this mean that the X-Men ARE the Ultimate Runaways, or what?
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Mar 12, 2012 15:42
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Myrddin Emrys posted:No, I get that, what I meant was does this mean that the X-Men ARE the Ultimate Runaways, or what? It's just their code name, so nah, I don't think they're really them. It's just a reference. Also, I'm fairly sure that Ultimate Molly Hayes got killed a few issues ago. Or some other random little mutant girl with a cute frog hat thing.
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Mar 12, 2012 15:44
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Kaleidoscope posted:Isn't Ultimate Kaine/the scarred Parker clone still alive? I'm fairly certain he was killed during the Clone Saga, either by MJ when she was a red monster, or by Ock. It is too bad that MJ's powers never came back up. I know she had a few hand tremors post-Clone Saga arc, but it was never mentioned after Ultimatum. Then again, this is the same universe where Gwen was actually Carnage and everyone is all like "Welp, she looks like Gwen sooooo....."
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Mar 12, 2012 16:50
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The Scorpion Peter Clone is still alive, or at least he hasn't shown to have died.
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Mar 13, 2012 01:49
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I'm actually waiting for Gwen to come back to NY and go crazy Carnage powers on Miles and the adjacent city blocks for using the Spider-Man name.
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Mar 13, 2012 06:44
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wiegieman posted:I'm actually waiting for Gwen to come back to NY and go crazy Carnage powers on Miles and the adjacent city blocks for using the Spider-Man name. Spider-Woman pretty much already did this though.
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Mar 13, 2012 10:16
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Yeah seriously I don't want Miles to have to fight every single person who knew Peter for using his name, as if that was somehow a really evil thing to do.
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Mar 13, 2012 10:24
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Surprised that WonderCon has passed without any announcement about what exactly Spider-Men is. Well, it can't be that much longer; I'm guessing that Marvel has given an exclusive to a mainstream media outlet that'll appear in the next couple weeks. Anyways, Brian Wood is taking over Ultimate X-Men, beginning with #13. A couple interesting quotes in CBR's interview: quote:Nick Spencer didn't just bring these characters together, he also set up a world full of mysteries like why so many "dead" mutants seem to be appearing alive and well. What was it like taking over the book from Nick? Are you interested in tackling some of the mysteries he set up right away or do you want to deepen these mysteries and let them grow for awhile? It sounds like Spencer may have been fired due to editorial displeasure with his emphasis on long-term plotting (he's in the middle of a six-issue stretch in which the core cast from the first arc doesn't appear at all), though it's also possible that he just wanted to focus more on creator-owned books. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Mar 18, 2012 |
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Mar 18, 2012 21:30
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Barry Convex posted:Surprised that WonderCon has passed without any announcement about what exactly Spider-Men is. Well, it can't be that much longer; I'm guessing that Marvel has given an exclusive to a mainstream media outlet that'll appear in the next couple weeks. I view this as a good thing. I liked Spencer's start on the title quite a bit, but getting away from that for so long is not the way to go in my opinion. On one hand I'm glad that someone was planning a long term goal, on the other I feel that Wood is right in that the focus needs to really be on the core group.
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Mar 18, 2012 23:38
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quote:Nick was taking a real longview with his plotting, seeding things that were not likely to be resolved for years, probably. My job, as it was given to me and also as per my own instincts, is to re-focus the book and re-establish the core cast and get it in line with what's happening in the "Ultimates" and "Ultimate Spider-Man." Wow. Yeah, that feels like they fired him all right. I actually like where UXM has been going.
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Mar 19, 2012 15:01
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Marvel have started to fill in the shadowed out images for the Spider-Men book either confirming or upping the red-herrings that it'll be a 616/Ultimate crossover.
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Mar 28, 2012 12:36
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I would think its a red herring, because I don't believe Marvel would miss the opportunity to draw out the mystery.
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Mar 28, 2012 12:49
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Can someone explain to me The Hulks deal in Ultimate Comics line right now, I just read the latest Ultimates by Hickman and the hulk goes from mindless to intelligent in a matter of seconds and in the same conversation.
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Mar 28, 2012 20:15
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Hollis posted:Can someone explain to me The Hulks deal in Ultimate Comics line right now, I just read the latest Ultimates by Hickman and the hulk goes from mindless to intelligent in a matter of seconds and in the same conversation. Banner has some degree of control on his Hulk form granted by meditating with monks or something, but it takes some effort, especially in an emotionally volatile state. This is infered from what we've seen though, no one's gone all Jeff Goldblum and spelled it out.
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Mar 28, 2012 20:19
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I really liked Ultimates. Except the end where they seemingly and easily captured most of them. Which means the only one that can save them and fight off Reed is.. ... Miles 
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Mar 28, 2012 23:37
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I really liked Ultimates. Except the end where they seemingly and easily captured most of them. Which means the only one that can save them and fight off Reed is.. Or Cap.
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Mar 29, 2012 03:01
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Hollis posted:Can someone explain to me The Hulks deal in Ultimate Comics line right now, I just read the latest Ultimates by Hickman and the hulk goes from mindless to intelligent in a matter of seconds and in the same conversation. He's under the mental control of Jean Grey, which puts him under the control of Nick Fury. Which means that they can unleash the beast when necessary. It seems that Reed is smart enough to use arguments that actually reach past the rage.
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Mar 29, 2012 12:12
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Lurdiak posted:This is infered from what we've seen though, no one's gone all Jeff Goldblum and spelled it out. I thought it was spelled out in Hulk vs Wolverine?
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Mar 29, 2012 12:19
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Waterhaul posted:Marvel have started to fill in the shadowed out images for the Spider-Men book either confirming or upping the red-herrings that it'll be a 616/Ultimate crossover. I'm voting this is partially to drum up attention for the Ultimate Spiderman Cartoon. Just breezed through the pilot preview. One change that I think is brilliant is that they updated Jameson really cleverly: He's now Rupert Murdoch.
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Mar 30, 2012 10:12
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So, completely evil then?
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Mar 30, 2012 11:45
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Illvillainy posted:So, completely evil then? Pretty much, since kids today will have zero idea what a "Chief Newspaper editor" is but can vaguely comprehend "Big Media Boss." Also, they're taking Bendis' Spiderman: Superhero Training School idea and running with it as the series premise. This MAY actually explain a lot about Ultimate Spiderman's storyline in the past year or so.
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Mar 30, 2012 12:01
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Is he going to start tapping Peter phone?
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Mar 30, 2012 15:03
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bobkatt013 posted:Is he going to start tapping Peter phone? This would make perfect sense.
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Mar 30, 2012 15:04
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Mister Roboto posted:This would make perfect sense. Well his Uncle was killed and they want to get the news.
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Mar 30, 2012 15:06
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This series is completely separate from The Avenger's cartoon right?
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Mar 30, 2012 22:52
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ToastyPotato posted:This series is completely separate from The Avenger's cartoon right? Pretty certain the entire point of killing Spectacular and launching Ultimate was so it could be in the same shared universe as Wolverine And the X-Men and Avengers.
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Mar 30, 2012 23:07
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notthegoatseguy posted:Pretty certain the entire point of killing Spectacular and launching Ultimate was so it could be in the same shared universe as Wolverine And the X-Men and Avengers. I wasn't even aware that Wolverine and The X-Men was in that universe too. I don't recall references in the Avengers to this? Or are they more on the X-men side (I've never seen that show.)
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Mar 30, 2012 23:27
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ToastyPotato posted:I wasn't even aware that Wolverine and The X-Men was in that universe too. I don't recall references in the Avengers to this? Or are they more on the X-men side (I've never seen that show.) Fury is still the same in EMH, down to the same voice actor. Wolverine appeared briefly, being called "James", in one of the Captain America focused episodes. Not sure if he had a speaking role or not. But yeah, WatXM is confirmed as being in the same universe. Yost has said so in interviews. I'm assuming that Ultimate Spider-Man is as well. However, I think the tone of USM is going to be significantly different than EMH, so I don't think there will be too much crossover. EDIT: Looking over Nick Fury's wiki page, it seems like the Nick Fury used in USM animated series is going to be voiced by a different guy and look different. So maybe USM won't be in the same universe. notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Mar 30, 2012 |
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Mar 30, 2012 23:32
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USM won't be crossing over, the Luke Cage and Iron fist in it are teens with different character designs than the Adult versions shown in the EMH teasers. I think they're keeping them completely separate from each other.
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Mar 30, 2012 23:36
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Dacap posted:USM won't be crossing over, the Luke Cage and Iron fist in it are teens with different character designs than the Adult versions shown in the EMH teasers. I think they're keeping them completely separate from each other. Huge disappointment. I also just checked out the X-men wiki page and it isn't getting a second season either, so I guess the shared universe is dead outside of characters popping in during EMH episodes. 
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