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pandaK posted:To be fair, he did kind of do this as a troll. And besides the video is all wrong anyway. Beloved Tomboyish Girl is from Touhou 6, not 1 
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Color Printer posted:To be fair (translation: I'm probably very wrong and you should just ignore me edit: gently caress yeah I was wondering where WITC)(ING )(OUR went.
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) my only sources are youtube comments from one of the Frozen Synapse Switch videos, but one of them did say that one person who claimed that edited it out of their post on some forum (probably the MSPA one?). So who knows by this point. I'd say wait until the pulled songs get put on Youtube (because they will) before trying to figure all that out.
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NO LISTEN TO ME posted:And besides the video is all wrong anyway. Beloved Tomboyish Girl is from Touhou 6, not 1 Well if you turned on annotations you'd see it was fixed!
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Apr 3, 2012 06:07
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I wonder if, in a situation like this, there will be repercussions for the plagiarizer besides vilification and (hopefully?) shame. I'd assume the Frozen Synapse team would have some legal ground against the guy?
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Apr 3, 2012 06:08
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Wrist Watch posted:Not the first time we've had "inspired" music but I've never heard it be completely identical before (I played the poo poo out of Sonic Adventure when I was little, don't judge me). Volume 5 had a few removed for being stolen. Cathedral of the End and such.
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Elysiume posted:Well I have both of them. I'd just need a song to compare Purple Tyrant to, since I don't recognize it. It may be this. Not sure though since I haven't heard Purple Tyrant (someone was posting this saying it was purple tyrant on some other forum). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOyycDOgeg edit: sniped already huh. what I get for hitting post but not looking below for new posts.
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Apr 3, 2012 06:09
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Color Printer posted:This sound like Purple Tyrant?
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pandaK posted:To be fair, he did kind of do this as a troll. I know, but whether he was trolling or not it's still a valid point. Everything from about 1:26 of the video and on (or everything past Heir Conditioning) is actually kind of a nice catch, I wouldn't have known otherwise. Does it make the music any less fun to listen to? Hell no. That entire first minute and a half of the video is pretty bullshit though, and he would have had a much better time getting his point across, trolling or not if he took it out. I mean, a song called "She's a Sp8der" having parallels to a song called "He's a Pirate" isn't all that unsurprising, and most people are okay with it as a homage. Hearing the other themes twisted and blended with themes from Homestuck is genuinely interesting, to me at least. I never would have caught the Chrono Trigger one for example.
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Elysiume posted:loving hell. Yes. It's that exactly. Disgusting.  then.But yeah, how stupid do you have to get to plagiarize two songs from the same exact source? A game that sells its soundtrack publicly, I might add. (Also you should all buy/listen to the Frozen Synapse soundtrack anyway because it also kicks rear end)
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Wrist Watch posted:I know, but whether he was trolling or not it's still a valid point. Everything from about 1:26 of the video and on (or everything past Heir Conditioning) is actually kind of a nice catch, I wouldn't have known otherwise. Does it make the music any less fun to listen to? Hell no. After the first half of that video, I was really surprised that he didn't just include the entire Alterniabound album.
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Apr 3, 2012 06:15
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I really hope that guy has some form of legal repercussions for this. That was incredibly sleazy.
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Wrist Watch posted:Everything from about 1:26 of the video and on (or everything past Heir Conditioning) is actually kind of a nice catch, I wouldn't have known otherwise.
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I'm not saying any of them were intentional, I just think it's cool to hear the similarities in some parts.  That guy was being an rear end about it and taking it directly to the mspa forums trying to stir things up. Even though he's full of poo poo and also wrong, it's interesting to hear riffs from other places popping up in others, especially in something like Homestuck, where even the name is a play on Earthbound. It's a different story when people outright steal songs, like what happened here with Purple Tyrant though. Sorry if I came off as accusatory.
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Vaah posted:I'm loving the almost Aphex Twin vibe I'm getting from Gold Mage. But from what I can tell the rest of that song is originally made, and the sample seems edited enough that it isn't that shameless.
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jvempire posted:That song actually samples Pulsewidth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVrSr-yxqmE Hahaha, oh man that's awesome. I'm loving Jade Sylph for the same reasons. Superego was really good as well.
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Wrist Watch posted:Not the first time we've had "inspired" music but I've never heard it be completely identical before (I played the poo poo out of Sonic Adventure when I was little, don't judge me). It's always interesting to see how Homestuck takes inspiration from Earthbound. Right down to how they compose their music.
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Supercar Gautier posted:The last time it happened was possibly just negligence though, with the guy remixing a midi track he somehow boneheadedly assumed was originally his. How the hell does someone do this. I mean really. Given how much time goes into this poo poo, I'd expect it'd be very hard to manage that 
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Zorak posted:How the hell does someone do this. I mean really. Given how much time goes into this poo poo, I'd expect it'd be very hard to manage that He was really disorganized. Apparently he downloaded it for remixing practice, gave it a vague filename and forgot about it for a year.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:It's always interesting to see how Homestuck takes inspiration from Earthbound. Right down to how they compose their music. http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/frog-forager http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYqDCPg7GPE Full circle.
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I've been listening to the tracks by starting with an ancestor track and then following up with the corresponding kid troll. So far I'm really liking both tracks for Rust, Gold, Iron, Olive and Teal. I like Cobalt Thief, but I really don't think it fits as a Vriska tune. Superego works better for that, IMO. Also, regarding the line between plagiarism and homage, I can't be the only one who likes hearing musical callbacks in certain tracks, can I? I really like it when individual characters in media are given a few leitmotifs (and it's probably the thing I liked most about Alterniabound/ Rex Duodecim Angelus) because I definitely think it adds to their characterization. Going off on another tangent, I'd love to hear another Karkat theme that used elements from "Crustacean".
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I bought the Felt album with the new album, so I gotta ask: Who the gently caress is Humphrey?
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The album rocks, too bad there was some plagiarism though. I can't imagine what was going through that person's head. I mean, who would think they would get away with it? Did they just want the attention? Whatever. And the end of A6I2 flash was hilarious, far better of an ending than anything I thought would happen. On that note, do you think we'll be introduced to Jane's land once we begin Act 6 Act 3? Because I would love that. 
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AuroMarshmallow posted:I've been listening to the tracks by starting with an ancestor track and then following up with the corresponding kid troll. So far I'm really liking both tracks for Rust, Gold, Iron, Olive and Teal. I like Cobalt Thief, but I really don't think it fits as a Vriska tune. Superego works better for that, IMO. I am reasonably sure that Cobalt Thief is about how incredibly sad Vriska's character arc was, and that Superego was included because Cobalt Thief didn't invoke that memorable feeling we all get when Vriskachat drums itself up again.
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Quotetype posted:I am reasonably sure that Cobalt Thief is about how incredibly sad Vriska's character arc was, and that Superego was included because Cobalt Thief didn't invoke that memorable feeling we all get when Vriskachat drums itself up again. Fun fact: As per the credits file, Cobalt Thief was written as a song for Serenity. (Actually most of the first 24 songs were repurposed from the character they were originally intended for).
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And cue that one contrarian rear end in a top hat who has to hate on anything vaguely reasonable and defend the indefensible http://fwugradiation.tumblr.com/post/20396275498/those-two-plagiarized-songs
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Gold Mage caught me off guard, because I remember listening to it when the artist first posted it to his tumblr as an idea for a Dirk strife theme. As a Dirk theme it's a bit too techno, but it really works for Sollux. Also, I really love how consistently good this whole album is.
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FrictionlessEmu posted:Fun fact: As per the credits file, Cobalt Thief was written as a song for Serenity. (Actually most of the first 24 songs were repurposed from the character they were originally intended for).
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I still cannot believe no one actually wrote a song that was meant to be for Karkat. Maybe everyone was too put off by Hussie's "50 Karkat songs album" joke to write a song about him.
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Quite enjoying this so far! Congratulations on getting in, WMM, you had it coming. Also, I thought this was hilarious: Radiation's tumblr posted:
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Well Manicured Man posted:I still cannot believe no one actually wrote a song that was meant to be for Karkat. Maybe everyone was too put off by Hussie's "50 Karkat songs album" joke to write a song about him. I thought this was about the ancestors? also Fun facts "Gold Pilot" was originally "Green Odyssey" and was a song for Becquerel (http://firstturnfold.tumblr.com/post/17530172487/first-turn-fold-the-green-odyssey-a-song-in) "Olive Scribe" was originally PM's theme (http://charredasperity.tumblr.com/post/17593740944/since-the-contests-pretty-much-over-i-just) "Cobalt Corsair was originally a theme for Andrew Hussie of all people (http://imbrog.tumblr.com/post/17542376808/homestuck-music-contest-entry-3-hussie-theme) "Olive Rogue" was originally a song called "Air for Eclectic Bass" which seems like it was for something other than Nepeta. (http://soundcloud.com/eschweic/air-for-eclectic-bass)
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AuroMarshmallow posted:Also, regarding the line between plagiarism and homage, I can't be the only one who likes hearing musical callbacks in certain tracks, can I? I really like it when individual characters in media are given a few leitmotifs (and it's probably the thing I liked most about Alterniabound/ Rex Duodecim Angelus) because I definitely think it adds to their characterization. There's a very big line between plagiarism and homage. Since Homestuck is a coherent work, it would make sense for the soundtrack to be filled with various callbacks and leitmotifs - heck, the whole fraymotif system is based on that to an extent (what ever happened to that anyway?). That being said, it's ridiculous that people think they can get away with that. From the ripped Sonic track from a few albums back and now this on probably the "biggest" Homestuck album to date. People really are awful. Loved the flash and it caught me completely off guard this morning!
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Hussie it is not a cool thing for grown rear end men to be proposing to tweens.
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Fat_Cow posted:I thought this was about the ancestors? The first side is for the ancestors, the second side is for the troll players. The songs are organized according to the hemospectrum.
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Aren't the "Iron" songs for the Sufferer and Karkat? Were they originally written for other characters?
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Well Manicured Man posted:I still cannot believe no one actually wrote a song that was meant to be for Karkat. Maybe everyone was too put off by Hussie's "50 Karkat songs album" joke to write a song about him. There were over 700 entries. Even if there was a dearth of Karkat tracks at the beginning, I refuse to believe there were none.
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So. My friend made a thing. I like to think Hussie runs like this in real life now, too. Also, uh... That was certainly an update. For a second there I was expecting the site to retain that weird "void" around everything, seeing as Hussie has now gone to join the choir invisible. Would have made navigating the site a total bitch, though.
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dumb brunette posted:"Iron Knight" is about Karkat, though? Karkat and the Sufferer are placed where they would be in the spectrum if they were limebloods instead of mutants. After the contest ended Radiation announced that not a single person had written a song about Karkat, out of the over 700 entries he received. According to the credits "Iron Knight" was originally meant for Davesprite and called "Caw Caw Motherfuckers". (if you buy the album it has all sorts of goodies like credits, original titles/characters, and lyrics, but I'm sure none of you need convincing)
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Well Manicured Man posted:After the contest ended Radiation announced that not a single person had written a song about Karkat, out of the over 700 entries he received. According to the credits "Iron Knight" was originally meant for Davesprite and called "Caw Caw Motherfuckers". (if you buy the album it has all sorts of goodies like credits, original titles/characters, and lyrics, but I'm sure none of you need convincing) Oh cool, I amended my post to ask this question after I realized it was probably what you meant, but all the same! I'm probably going to buy this album, a lot of the tracks are pretty sweet. I haven't been to the thread in a while so I might have missed a few things like that 
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