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Sigma-X posted:I hope you don't feel this is overstepping a boundary, but I took a crack at getting this down to a 1-page. I removed what I felt was unnecessary info, tightened up some phrasing, played with formatting, etc. This is awesome, taking a lot from this if you don't mind. Will start throwing up some stuff on a wordpress for my portfolio soon.
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Kunzelman posted:Comte, I am sure you are the coolest person, but I eternally curse your name if you designed the Museum level in Alpha Protocol. That was a really neat level and the easiest choice in the world.  Whatserface dies, majority saved. Alpha Protocol loving rules
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Aliginge posted:That was a really neat level and the easiest choice in the world. Once you mess around with the scripts to make it actually work!
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FreakyZoid posted:To be honest I'm more put off by overblown writing ("spawned within me a seething hatred for all things boring, bland, and repetitive." ) on a CV than by it being two pages long. Hint taken. I actually haven't looked at that section of the stupid thing in years, so thanks for calling me out on it. https://instagram.com/mutatedjellyfish/
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Apr 4, 2012 13:57
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Comte de Saint-Germain posted:This is awesome, taking a lot from this if you don't mind. Don't mind at all, that was the whole point 
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Apr 4, 2012 14:09
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I contribute to entry-level hiring (QA) and boy do I get peeved at resumes bigger than one page. If the resume contents are good it's not going to cause me to not vote for you, but I will think you didn't do any research into best practices and are bad at consolidating information (qualities I want in QA). And people who don't have a cover letter are almost always instant "nos" from me.
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Archetype posted:I contribute to entry-level hiring (QA) and boy do I get peeved at resumes bigger than one page. If the resume contents are good it's not going to cause me to not vote for you, but I will think you didn't do any research into best practices and are bad at consolidating information (qualities I want in QA). And people who don't have a cover letter are almost always instant "nos" from me. I send my "cover letter" as the body of the email with my resume attached to it, is that kosher as long as I'm not going "here's my resume read it without context"?
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FreakyZoid posted:To be honest I'm more put off by overblown writing ("spawned within me a seething hatred for all things boring, bland, and repetitive." ) on a CV than by it being two pages long. This reminds me of my biggest pet peeve in job descriptions: stupid adjectives. LOOKING FOR A SQL ROCKSTAR! ARE YOU A MOBILE GAMING NINJA?
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If anything, this conversation has reaffirmed my belief that HR and hiring types have each individually decided on what their criteria and rules are for their own reasons, which are often times arbitrary and impossible to predict, so just use common sense and don't do dumb stuff like send in 22-page resumes with cover letters that have a different company's name in them.
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Apr 4, 2012 17:45
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Comrade Flynn posted:This reminds me of my biggest pet peeve in job descriptions: stupid adjectives. LOOKING FOR A SQL ROCKSTAR! ARE YOU A MOBILE GAMING NINJA? I'm a pro job declining mother flipper, peace out Y'ALL
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Fishbus posted:I'm a pro job declining mother flipper, peace out Y'ALL You flip mothers? Animal.
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Apr 4, 2012 17:47
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Mega Shark posted:You flip mothers? Animal. I can't take a new job because my current one involves flipping all the mothers, it's a hard, thankless job but someone has to do it.
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Apr 4, 2012 17:51
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e. Damnit. ^^Mega Shark posted:You flip mothers? Animal. No, he means he buys mothers for a low price, makes them look nice, then sells them back for a profit. It's community service 
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I had an interview recently where the first interview was with 2 HR guys. We were getting along well (I'm a good interviewee), and one of them asked "what's the deal with your resume? You have 5 years experience and it's one page." Then the other one jumped in to say he likes one pagers and really liked my resume. They both have good points, but I think that unless you have extenuating circumstances like 40 jobs over 10 years that all need to be documented, stick to one page.
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Archetype posted:I contribute to entry-level hiring (QA) and boy do I get peeved at resumes bigger than one page. If the resume contents are good it's not going to cause me to not vote for you, but I will think you didn't do any research into best practices and are bad at consolidating information (qualities I want in QA). And people who don't have a cover letter are almost always instant "nos" from me. If someone has a resume that covers 2 pages and is applying for QA I'd probably ask some questions. And yeah, include a cover letter that is actually written for the specific job. Not doing that shows me that 1) you are lazy, 2) you can't write, or 3) you don't give a poo poo.
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D1Sergo posted:I send my "cover letter" as the body of the email with my resume attached to it, is that kosher as long as I'm not going "here's my resume read it without context"? Oh, I'm fine with that. As long as it's not TOO long (I've seen 2-page cover letters...) and make sure it's personalized (I love <your company's name> because of <X> — X being a researched and true reason). "I want work in videogames give job plz" doesn't cut it. djkillingspree posted:If someone has a resume that covers 2 pages and is applying for QA I'd probably ask some questions. Some people are really bad at formatting. As a typography/design nerd, it pains me.  (p.s. Grats on the Blizzard job, bro).
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The Molyjam game "Breaktris" reminds me of the homebrew GBA game I had been building that helped me get my job originally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3McsgkVx9xM if you haven't seen it). The concept I had been working on was a retro arcade game compilation, but instead of picking one game, you pick two and play a weird combination. The only one that I had built into my homebrew demo by the time I got the job was Breakout + Space Invaders.
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Hi guys, all this Covering Letter and Resume/C.V talk has been really interesting. My friend is a games programmer but sadly not on SA yet. Does anyone have a Covering Letter and C.V they'd be willing to send to me (so I can send it to him) to provide him with some examples. He has about 4 years experience, but it's always nice to see what other good people have come up with!
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Archetype posted:Oh, I'm fine with that. As long as it's not TOO long (I've seen 2-page cover letters...) and make sure it's personalized (I love <your company's name> because of <X> — X being a researched and true reason). In my opinion, if your cover page isn't a 1/2 - 3/4 page newly written and somewhat personalized then its just not right.
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mutata posted:If anything, this conversation has reaffirmed my belief that HR and hiring types have each individually decided on what their criteria and rules are for their own reasons, which are often times arbitrary and impossible to predict, so just use common sense and don't do dumb stuff like send in 22-page resumes with cover letters that have a different company's name in them. This reminds me of some of the best advice I ever got on looking for a job (paraphrased): "You can't control what the employer thinks. You can't control if they are having a bad day, if they dismiss you based on an arbitrary rule or if they accidentally overlook your application. All you can do is to be the best version of yourself, every time."
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Holy poo poo. Not to rag on anyone posting on the Shadowrun kickstarter thread but I think I finally know how it feels to be a developer reading a goon thread about the game, and it's not even in development yet. It's absolutely off the wall and while I'm not angry or anything, it's just weird to be on the offset. My heart goes out to all game jobs goons and Cliffy B. How do you guys do it? Edit: oops forgot to mention I'm a developer for the Shadowrun kickstarter
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endlosnull posted:Holy poo poo. Not to rag on anyone posting on the Shadowrun kickstarter thread but I think I finally know how it feels to be a developer reading a goon thread about the game, and it's not even in development yet. It's absolutely off the wall and while I'm not angry or anything, it's just weird to be on the offset. I have my theories. 
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endlosnull posted:Holy poo poo. Not to rag on anyone posting on the Shadowrun kickstarter thread but I think I finally know how it feels to be a developer reading a goon thread about the game, and it's not even in development yet. It's absolutely off the wall and while I'm not angry or anything, it's just weird to be on the offset. HATAS GON' HATE
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mutata posted:HATAS GON' HATE I'm going to pour a 40 just for Cliffy B.
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endlosnull posted:Edit: oops forgot to mention I'm a developer for the Shadowrun kickstarter That is really awesome. Shadowrun has such a rabid fanbase they're tough to please, and their most recent experience was being burned really badly with the FPS. I'm just stunned it's taking a Kickstarter for something Jordan is involved in to get off the ground, he's one of the best in the business at getting people to give him money based off of an elevator pitch.
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coeranys posted:That is really awesome. Shadowrun has such a rabid fanbase they're tough to please, and their most recent experience was being burned really badly with the FPS. I'm just stunned it's taking a Kickstarter for something Jordan is involved in to get off the ground, he's one of the best in the business at getting people to give him money based off of an elevator pitch. Shadowrun for the Genesis is still one of my top games of all time. I love that game and still have a pristine copy that I keep on my shelf.
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endlosnull posted:Holy poo poo. Not to rag on anyone posting on the Shadowrun kickstarter thread but I think I finally know how it feels to be a developer reading a goon thread about the game, and it's not even in development yet. It's absolutely off the wall and while I'm not angry or anything, it's just weird to be on the offset. I use it as a personal bug forum. No one in my game's thread knows who I am so I get to bring up issues they find and sometime provide tech support with systems I wrote. It's heartbreaking when they make totally incorrect assumptions about things but I let them lie rather than correct people and give myself away.
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endlosnull posted:Holy poo poo. Not to rag on anyone posting on the Shadowrun kickstarter thread but I think I finally know how it feels to be a developer reading a goon thread about the game, and it's not even in development yet. It's absolutely off the wall and while I'm not angry or anything, it's just weird to be on the offset. From my experience it's best to post as little as possible, if you're allowed to at all. When someone posts something that's super factually wrong, and it's more of an uninformed thing than an opinion thing, you can probably make a post correcting them, but don't get in an argument with anyone, people are going to be idiots on the internet and you should ignore it.
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mutata posted:If anything, this conversation has reaffirmed my belief that HR and hiring types have each individually decided on what their criteria and rules are for their own reasons, which are often times arbitrary and impossible to predict, so just use common sense and don't do dumb stuff like send in 22-page resumes with cover letters that have a different company's name in them.
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endlosnull posted:My heart goes out to all game jobs goons and Cliffy B. How do you guys do it? edit: totally won't be surprised when I see the above cross-posted into another thread that I've visited
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Hazed_blue posted:Thick skin, iron jaw. Goons are going to be just as critical as other fans if not moreso, because there is no filter present here; people will say whatever is on their mind. That can be a good thing sometimes, and a bad thing other times. Even under the heaviest of insults, you can shake out a few grains or two of actual feedback, and that can be extremely valuable. Other times, you just have to step away. Goon feedback is usually much better written, at least. SA enforces much better grammar than most forums. It's the price of doing any work for public consumption. If you want an audience, you are going to attract fans, and fan is short for fanatic. Having some people jump down your throat because something isn't right is better than having no one care about it at all.
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True but always gotta have the good go with the bad. Sometimes I want to strangle the poo poo out of the fans, but gotta keep it cool and professional. Also not have a twitter. Good lord, you tweet just one bad tweet and the whole world is out to get you. (Not saying from experience, but more like witnessing the bad tweets from that zombie group, Phil Fish and etc)
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Shindragon posted:(Not saying from experience, but more like witnessing the bad tweets from that zombie group, Phil Fish and etc)
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Resume talk: Another hiring manager chiming in to say that I am happy to read 2 page resumes if you have a fair amount of relevant job experience. coeranys posted:That is really awesome. Shadowrun has such a rabid fanbase they're tough to please, and their most recent experience was being burned really badly with the FPS. I'm just stunned it's taking a Kickstarter for something Jordan is involved in to get off the ground, he's one of the best in the business at getting people to give him money based off of an elevator pitch. The other thing that's really interesting about that one is the funding goal. Only $400K actually sounds really low to me. Jordan can be a bit molyneux-esque in his design visions, and what is described there feels to me like a $1 million+ budget game, even if it's 2D and turn based.
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Shalinor posted:You can also just... not be a douche when you tweet. Lots of developers tweet casually, and it's good for showing the dev off as a Real Person (tm). It just doesn't work so well when those tweets make them seem like a Real Dick Of A Person (tm), whether the impression is true or not. Seriously. If you're going to keep a development twitter, I'd probably steer clear of any controversial opinions. Keep a personal twitter for that kind of stuff.
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djkillingspree posted:If someone has a resume that covers 2 pages and is applying for QA I'd probably ask some questions. I believe you may have meant to say "entry level QA" because there are very experienced QA out there with 2 page resumes, myself included. DancingMachine posted:Resume talk: Another hiring manager chiming in to say that I am happy to read 2 page resumes if you have a fair amount of relevant job experience. I agree with this completely. Note Block fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Apr 5, 2012 |
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My CV is two pages long. I don't think I could make it any shorter without seriously selling myself short. Might be a cultural difference between the UK and North America though. I've heard that a North American resume is a bit different to a CV, and that it's generally shorter. I've certainly never had any problems with a two-page CV. I always get through to the phone interview stage with it. It is laid out based on the assumption that no one will read the second page, if their attention isn't immediately grabbed by the first third of the first page though.
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I'm finding out tomorrow if they're letting my QA contract run up next month, and right now it's really leaning towards me losing this job.  I've gotten a lot of practical experience from the one year at the position, but I have next-to no qualifications of any kind (I wasn't able to complete college due to complications).Would a big-name company referral make up for that at all in trying to seek future QA positions?
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miscellaneous14 posted:I'm finding out tomorrow if they're letting my QA contract run up next month, and right now it's really leaning towards me losing this job. Yes, definitely. Having any kind of industry experience puts you ahead of most of your competition in QA; in my experience, college isn't a prerequisite for getting hired. I work in art, but we have QA and artists who completed high school/got their GED/dropped out of undergrad. I remember the QA lead pushing for us to send referrals his way.. We may still be hiring (we're based in Baltimore).
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miscellaneous14 posted:I'm finding out tomorrow if they're letting my QA contract run up next month, and right now it's really leaning towards me losing this job. Relevant job experience is (almost) always better than schooling. Especially if you're looking for another QA position for the time being. Also, count yourself lucky that you know a month in advance. Back at EA QA, our contracts would expire on a Friday and we would find out on the Wednesday before if they would be renewed. Doctor Fatty fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Apr 5, 2012 |
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