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Who Killed WCW?
Eric Bischoff
Hulk Hogan
Vince Russo
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triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I figure this is as good a place as any for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6BCVFBSLCA&feature=player_embedded

Vince Russo, live shoot interview on iPPV, June 1st

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Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END
That will certainly be something. I wonder how many times Russo will start an answer with, "You know the thing about that was..."

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Bro, I hear ya. Believe me I felt the same way! But the fuckin politics man...

facebook jihad
Dec 18, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Wow I usually am not a big shoot guy but I might have to invest.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
I will pay good money to watch that idiot try and tell me that everything over the past five years in TNA wasn't his fault. I mean, he made the Rock guys. He made the Rock.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END

Gonzo McFee posted:

I will pay good money to watch that idiot try and tell me that everything over the past five years in TNA wasn't his fault. I mean, he made the Rock guys. He made the Rock.

And gave the Rock Buff Bagwell's spot.

Volcano Style
May 2, 2006

THERE IS ONLY ONE
As someone that bought a Russo/Ferrara shoot DVD, I can't recommend paying money to hear that man justify anything. It's like listening to a porn director trying to sell you on subtext that doesn't exist. His entire reasoning for making himself champion was 'I was a heel.'

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

I have three Russo shoot interviews. All three contradict each other. Two were filmed in a week of each other.

Oh and they all contradict his book.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Skinty McEdger posted:

I have three Russo shoot interviews. All three contradict each other. Two were filmed in a week of each other.

Oh and they all contradict his book.

This is beautiful.

You should log every contradiction and post it somewhere.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

I've considered doing it before, and if I have time over the weekend I'll give it another shot. The thing that's always stopped me is that Russo doesn't have a voice that you can listen to for 9 hours straight without doing long term damage to your ear drums.

While on the subject of Russo, I really want to get on his "writing wrestling for television" course. From the press release

quote:

I will teach you:

–How to get started in writing for a major company;
–How to get your foot in the door;
–How to create larger-than-life personalities;
–Writing effective dialogue for specific characters;
–How to format a wrestling show;
–How to generate new ideas 52 weeks a year;
–How to sell your ideas to talent;
–How to create a successful working environment between talent and writer;
–Dealing with egos;
–Overcoming writer’s block;
–Avoiding the pitfalls of politics;
–How to generate ratings; and
–The difference between writing and booking

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



It's a shame that Russo is terrible at defending his poo poo.
Kevin Nash is a great bullshitter.

People are still mad about the Fingerpoke.
That means it worked. v:shobon:v

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Skinty McEdger posted:

I've considered doing it before, and if I have time over the weekend I'll give it another shot. The thing that's always stopped me is that Russo doesn't have a voice that you can listen to for 9 hours straight without doing long term damage to your ear drums.

While on the subject of Russo, I really want to get on his "writing wrestling for television" course. From the press release

Who would hire someone taught by Russo? WWE would laugh you out, TNA got rid of the original and ROH would unleash The Briscoes.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
I would totally do that course if Russo paid off my student loan.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I was at the library earlier today, and they had a book by Vince Russo. I think it was called "How WCW Killed Me" or something along those lines. Has anyone read this book? I didn't bother borrowing it, but if it's an entertaining trainwreck I will go there tomorrow.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

CopywrightMMXI posted:

I was at the library earlier today, and they had a book by Vince Russo. I think it was called "How WCW Killed Me" or something along those lines. Has anyone read this book? I didn't bother borrowing it, but if it's an entertaining trainwreck I will go there tomorrow.

Rope Opera: How WCW killed Vince Russo posted:

I cry when I think of all the sacrifices the family have made for a business that will never give a drat about any of us. A business that will never know any of you personally, but wanted to take you all down at my expense. I apologize for the time I took from each of you, while handing it to a locker room full of ungrateful wrestlers who only cared about themselves — with the exception of few. I can't get that time back and I know that it was a mistake.

It's a trainwreck. Read it if you get a chance.

Edit: Fun fact. He originally pitched the book as a tv series.

Skinty McEdger fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Apr 4, 2012

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
Remember: Vince Russo made $250,000 a year in the WWF before leaving to WCW. Imagine how much he made in WCW.

Sikki Nixx
Sep 3, 2011

Whether you like it, or you don't like it, learn to love it! WOOOOO!
I made it 3 chapters in, and got bored. I just might break out Rope Opera again. You know, for a "professional writer", he's actually pretty awful. I'm sure this wil come as a shock to all of you.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
To break it down:

Vince Russo posted:

–How to get started in writing for a major company;

Get really good at bringing your boss cocaine.

Vicious Vinnie posted:

–How to get your foot in the door;

Start a wrestling radio show before podcasting is invented.

Vince Russo posted:

–How to create larger-than-life personalities;

Have Vince McMahon create them and know how to write them down.

Vince Russo posted:

–Writing effective dialogue for specific characters;

Tell people they are allowed to say what they want, just add, "rear end in a top hat" somewhere.

Vince Russo posted:

–How to format a wrestling show;

Procrastinate.

Vince Russo posted:

–How to generate new ideas 52 weeks a year;

Think of 52 opposites to "wrestling storyline".

Vince Russo posted:

–How to sell your ideas to talent;

DO IT.

Vince Russo posted:

–How to create a successful working environment between talent and writer;

I'm pretty sure he just drinks a bottle of malt liquor until the powerpoint slide moves to

Vince Russo posted:

–Dealing with egos;

See 2000, Bash at the Beach.

Vince Russo posted:

–Overcoming writer’s block;

Find Jesus.

Vince Russo posted:

–Avoiding the pitfalls of politics;

Where's that malt liquor?

Vince Russo posted:

–How to generate ratings; and

SHOOT!

Vince Russo posted:

–The difference between writing and booking

"writ"/"book"

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

CopywrightMMXI posted:

I was at the library earlier today, and they had a book by Vince Russo. I think it was called "How WCW Killed Me" or something along those lines. Has anyone read this book? I didn't bother borrowing it, but if it's an entertaining trainwreck I will go there tomorrow.

I took it out from my library and enjoyed it. There's a ton of bullshit, but it actually was interesting reading about how his short time in the ring just ruined him physically. If true, the stories of his concussions are pretty scary.

Bocc Kob
Oct 26, 2010
Not ruined enough. :colbert:

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Dale Torborg could have been something. That is all.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

coconono posted:

Dale Torborg could have been something. That is all.

Well he is in Asya.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

bobkatt013 posted:

Well he is in Asya.

Smart man.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END

coconono posted:

Smart man.

I'd say this qualifies as NOT SAFE FOR WORK. http://i.imgur.com/GGGAZ.jpg

Jabba The American
Sep 5, 2011

I'm gonna have you thrown out of here in a minute!

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

I'd say this qualifies as NOT SAFE FOR WORK. http://i.imgur.com/GGGAZ.jpg

I just had to know, didn't I? That was a regrettable decision.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I've started Russo's book. I'm 8 chapters (actually only 42 pages) in. He's devoted more space to his childhood friends than he has wrestling so far. Also, Ed Ferrara is the best writer he's ever seen - comparable to Stephen King even!

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

CopywrightMMXI posted:

I've started Russo's book. I'm 8 chapters (actually only 42 pages) in. He's devoted more space to his childhood friends than he has wrestling so far. Also, Ed Ferrara is the best writer he's ever seen - comparable to Stephen King even!

Comparable to the formula based guy who couldn't give a poo poo you say!? By god...

Perry Normal
Jul 23, 2010

Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.
Please continue to give updates. I am very interested in digest versions of Russo bullshit. I can't really stand to read/watch it myself.

Sikki Nixx
Sep 3, 2011

Whether you like it, or you don't like it, learn to love it! WOOOOO!
I'm in the same boat. Hearing it in little chunks over the internet, with added snarky commentary is far easier to stomach than Russo's own words.

Sue Denim
Dec 20, 2009

Lone Rogue posted:

I would totally do that course if Russo paid off my student loan.
You guys are boring.

If I could take a course on how to write wrestling from Vince Russo I'd jump at the loving opportunity.

That class would be so much fun, it would like being back in high school except this time having an incompetent teacher is an enjoyable novelty.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Sue Denim posted:

You guys are boring.

If I could take a course on how to write wrestling from Vince Russo I'd jump at the loving opportunity.

That class would be so much fun, it would like being back in high school except this time having an incompetent teacher is an enjoyable novelty.

Also think of all the misogynistic and racist thing he will say every time you have class. Also final on a pole match

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Well the first class would be really exciting and well put together to the point where you have high expectations for the rest of the course. However in week four you suddenly find the class is now about making bonnets.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Skinty McEdger posted:

Well the first class would be really exciting and well put together to the point where you have high expectations for the rest of the course. However in week four you suddenly find the class is now about making bonnets.

Guest lecturer - Judy Bagwell!

Your course's TA? Eurasya!

See, it's bigger than Chyna and Asya...

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
It's probably the only chance one might have to find out WHY Vince Russo hates women!

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Lone Rogue posted:

It's probably the only chance one might have to find out WHY Vince Russo hates women!
Because attractive ones don't want to have sex with him.

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Oct 30, 2009

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Vince Russo: OK Trish, so then you slap Vince and kick him in the balls and walk off with your music playing.

Trish: OK Vince, that sounds really cool. Thanks.

Russo: Sure. Hey, did you want to go get some coffee or something after we are done tonight?

Trish: Oh, well I'm actually in a serious relationship. I'm sorry.

Russo: Hey, that's cool. Look, the segment changed after i talked to Vince.

Trish: But we never stopped talki-

Russo: Now Vince makes you strip down to your bra and panties and get on your knees like a dog while you cry. Like a loving DOG!

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I'm sure his issue with women comes from high school experiences, like a lot of dudes.

Role Play McMurphy
Jul 15, 2010
Hmmmm, pretty non sequitur, unfounded presumption, but I'll allow it!

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
I went through the next 6 chapters of Russo's book. Highlights!

- The Harris brothers should have been huge stars. No one knew how to book them!
- Everyone in wrestling has their own posse, and they all are cancerous to their organizations. Except Russo's posse. Those guys were good
- If Roddy Piper could have made fun of fat women, then WCW would have done better
- Tank Abbot would beat Sid in a real fight, so it made sense to propose that Tank win the title
- Disco Inferno's idea for a martian invasion was brilliant. Except when other people said it was stupid, then it was just Disco joking around

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Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

CopywrightMMXI posted:

- Disco Inferno's idea for a martian invasion was brilliant.

"Martian Invasion" in Wrestling?

...

...

...

THAT IS BRILLIANT!

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