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I have absolutely loved this take on the origin of Superman, though I wish the art hadn't taken such a weird turn on the final few pages. That close-up of Superman flying was a little weird perspective-wise. Also - we all know he'll be back in the classic costume in a few years, so this'll feel dated the second that happens. But otherwise I can't find an awful lot wrong with it. That said: I am 100% looking forward to Grant Morrison taking Superman to new places and meeting new foes. A big game hunter with alien-killing bullets sounds just my speed.
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That couldn't happen unless the pull the plug on the reboot and have everyone wake up from a dream back where we were. Remember he's starting out in Kryptonian DNA armor and would have to make a conscious decision to move on to cloth and red undies. Where would that come from? He'd have to see a photo of a turn of the century circus strong man and get inspired.
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Apr 5, 2012 13:18
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Magic Love Hose posted:That close-up of Superman flying was a little weird perspective-wise.
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Apr 5, 2012 14:34
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Teenage Fansub posted:That couldn't happen unless the pull the plug on the reboot and have everyone wake up from a dream back where we were. Maybe he could decide to make the Kryptonian armor look like red undies. You know, gotta keep up with the latest styles.
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Apr 5, 2012 14:56
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Apr 5, 2012 15:33
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Loved this arc. Really cool take on the origin. I'm now looking forward to reading about Nimrod the Hunter. I was rereading all the past issues, and in #6 Saturn Girl reveals that it was Nimrod who used a "teleport rifle" to fire the microscopic hollow lead pellet in to Superman's brain. And somehow Myx and the Anti-Superman army (lead by Zod with bandages covering his face?) ended up inside.
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Apr 5, 2012 15:37
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Teenage Fansub posted:I was terrified by Alfred E. Newman as a child and pictures like this is why 
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Apr 6, 2012 16:52
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Yo, did Grant Morrison just get away with publishing a Superman comic where he basically says DC's lawyers are the devil, and that the creators of Superman got completely hosed? Did that just happen? How the gently caress did this get published?
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May 2, 2012 18:11
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d00gZ posted:Yo, did Grant Morrison just get away with publishing a Superman comic where he basically says DC's lawyers are the devil, and that the creators of Superman got completely hosed? Did that just happen? Waid once wrote a comic making fun of a DC artist who killed someone with a hammer.
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May 2, 2012 18:28
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d00gZ posted:Yo, did Grant Morrison just get away with publishing a Superman comic where he basically says DC's lawyers are the devil, and that the creators of Superman got completely hosed? Did that just happen? By being Morrison. What are they going to do, fire him and let him go work for Marvel?
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May 2, 2012 18:30
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bobkatt013 posted:Waid once wrote a comic making fun of a DC artist who killed someone with a hammer. What?
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May 2, 2012 18:33
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Starsnostars posted:What?  Greg Brooks who drew the Crimson Avenger miniseries in 1988 killed his wife with a hammer. Notice the name on who its from (its the Crimson Avengers real name) This is what got Waid fired from DC in 1988.
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May 2, 2012 18:39
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Alternate Lois is also reading a hologram Starfire comic. With all the controversy her New 52 iteration got I thought it was a fun nod.
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May 2, 2012 18:58
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d00gZ posted:Yo, did Grant Morrison just get away with publishing a Superman comic where he basically says DC's lawyers are the devil, and that the creators of Superman got completely hosed? Did that just happen? I usually always miss these things when I read a book the first time, but I read the book before I saw your post and it was clear as day.
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May 2, 2012 20:12
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There was also a Prez reference with them talking about the popular "President Rickard" in the 70s.
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May 3, 2012 03:41
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I was hoping for Morrison to get to the trippier stuff once the origin was re-done. He did not disappoint. EDIT: Opopanax posted:By being Morrison. What are they going to do, fire him and let him go work for Marvel? I would not be surprised if DC fired Morrison over this. Yes, it made it to the printed page - that doesn't mean that anyone at the company actually understood what it was publishing and that there won't be consequences once they figure it out. Yes, firing Morrison would be a boneheaded move, but let's not forget what comics company we're talking about. I'm not saying they WILL - but it wouldn't surprise me. Mike From Nowhere fucked around with this message at 09:25 on May 3, 2012 |
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May 3, 2012 04:21
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Can someone post what Morrison did or sum it up?
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May 3, 2012 17:13
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Magic Love Hose posted:I was hoping for Morrison to get to the trippier stuff once the origin was re-done. I wonder if Batman will have a monster who gets rich at the expense of another person and the richer the monster gets the poorer the worker get.
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May 3, 2012 17:39
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Ugenesis posted:Can someone post what Morrison did or sum it up? The Lex Luthor of Earth 23 has created some sort of crazy music machine that can access other universes, and out tumble a dying Jimmy, Clark, and a one-eyed Lois. They explain to President Superman that they had created this device that could manifest the human imagination, and together they created the perfect Superman, who "articulate[d] a code of ethics so pure and simple and good that we all wept." Needing more money, they take this idea to a rich technology corporation and they bastardize the concept, creating this horrific embodiment of cynicism and greed, who destroys their world and is hellbent on destroying all of the other universes as well. It's brilliant.
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May 3, 2012 17:50
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You forgot the part where the massive corporation bullies Lois, Clark and Jimmy into selling them the Superman with the threat of LAWYERS.
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May 3, 2012 17:58
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There's plenty I left out. This is the money quote: "We sold out! They had 500 experts lined up, thinking in harmony to streamline the Superman brand for maximum cross-spectrum, wide platform appeal. They built a violent, troubled, faceless anti-hero, concealing a tragic secret life, a global marketing icon. Everybody wears its brand. It makes people feel part of something big and new and cool."
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May 3, 2012 18:02
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muscles like this? posted:There was also a Prez reference with them talking about the popular "President Rickard" in the 70s. Dammit I just re-read Sandman recently too! *whoosh*
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May 3, 2012 18:44
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Was I the only one bothered by the fact that Morrison pretty much let this new Ubermench slaughter the entire kid superhero universe? I mean what the gently caress, man. That was pointless and stupid, and it really soured me on the whole issue.
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May 7, 2012 11:51
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McCloud posted:Was I the only one bothered by the fact that Morrison pretty much let this new Ubermench slaughter the entire kid superhero universe? It was far from pointless and stupid. It was making the point that the "more grown-up" DC heroes and comics we've got today are increasingly violent and have pretty much killed the kids comic market. It's feeding off the kid-friendly past to make yet more over-violent toss that bears no resemblance to the comics we (well, the older fans amongst us) grew up loving. This entire issue was a massive "gently caress you" to DC comics and I love Morrison for writing it.
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May 7, 2012 13:52
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McCloud posted:Was I the only one bothered by the fact that Morrison pretty much let this new Ubermench slaughter the entire kid superhero universe? I don't really think it was pointless. The entire issue was being amazingly critical of DC from... basically beginning to end. (I really really doubt it was a coincidence that it used the black Superman.)
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May 7, 2012 13:58
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ImpAtom posted:I don't really think it was pointless. The entire issue was being amazingly critical of DC from... basically beginning to end. (I really really doubt it was a coincidence that it used the black Superman.)
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May 7, 2012 14:08
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redbackground posted:As an aside, I really wouldn't mind if Action Comics/Morrison just followed and stuck with the exploits of President Superman; I'm already more invested and interested in his character after one issue than what Grant's done with regular Superman from AC #1-8. To be honest I feel the same way. I might not after a few issues but I found it a really interesting universe to at least look in on.
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May 7, 2012 14:16
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ImpAtom posted:To be honest I feel the same way. I might not after a few issues but I found it a really interesting universe to at least look in on. Totally agree, he could rotate through different parallel Supermans once in a while and I would love it.
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May 8, 2012 00:21
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Yannick_B posted:Totally agree, he could rotate through different parallel Supermans once in a while and I would love it. That would be awesome; who says Superman has to be about Earth-1 Superman only?
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May 8, 2012 00:41
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Shameless posted:It was far from pointless and stupid. It was making the point that the "more grown-up" DC heroes and comics we've got today are increasingly violent and have pretty much killed the kids comic market. It's feeding off the kid-friendly past to make yet more over-violent toss that bears no resemblance to the comics we (well, the older fans amongst us) grew up loving. Now that you mention it does DC have any kid friendly lines? I know that Marvel does have comics made specifically for younger readers, but I don't know as much about DC.
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May 8, 2012 01:16
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Bob Quixote posted:Now that you mention it does DC have any kid friendly lines? I know that Marvel does have comics made specifically for younger readers, but I don't know as much about DC. The comics they put out based on their animated shows are kid friendly I think. Plus for really young kids they had Tiny Titans and now they'll have Superman Family Adventures to replace that. I think they put out a "DC Nation" app which has all their all ages stuff. That's about all I know though.
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May 8, 2012 01:17
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Opopanax posted:That would be awesome; who says Superman has to be about Earth-1 Superman only? It would be the way to "franchise"-up Superman the same way Batman Inc and all the multiple Corps stuff did for Green Lantern.
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May 8, 2012 03:25
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What amuses me is that Calvin Elliot a) does not wear glasses, and b) is President. It's like Grant Morrison looked at the glasses disguise and said "well, I can make that look perfectly sane." I wonder if Morrison watched Super President as a kid at all?
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May 8, 2012 05:01
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Yannick_B posted:Totally agree, he could rotate through different parallel Supermans once in a while and I would love it. Opopanax posted:That would be awesome; who says Superman has to be about Earth-1 Superman only? We are now talking about a new monthly ongoing here. Action Comics should be primarily about Earth-1 Superman for sanity's sake. I'm not arguing with a DC Presents: Superman Tales or whatever, but please, not in Clark Kent's backyard.
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May 8, 2012 08:15
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Oh man, I think I'm reading one of the best Superman arcs right now. At least it's already one of my favorite. You guys remember the corny Superman Blue/Red crap? And the Millenium Giants? Well, I don't know if many people read the arc that came directly after that story, but it's definitely one of my the best Superman stories I've read recently. I think the arc starts from Adventures of Superman #558, the whole story is about how the Silver Age Superman, Golden Age Superman, Modern Superman, and the Future Superman one day started getting visits from this strange girl telling them that something is in their "world". And later on these individual Superman started realizing that other Superman exists in different timelines. I'm still in the middle of this story but it's so freaking good, especially seeing all the different Superman in their own timelines "awaken". The whole arc is more than 20 issues, so it will take a while to finish it, but so far it's nothing but awesome. The cover art is fantastic as well.  
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May 30, 2012 19:28
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Is this the one where everything is done Mort Weisenger-style but set in the modern day, with Steel and Superboy and an around-the-world baseball game? Loved that one, myself.
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May 30, 2012 19:35
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Realism posted:Oh man, I think I'm reading one of the best Superman arcs right now. At least it's already one of my favorite. edit: never mind, found it redbackground fucked around with this message at 20:06 on May 30, 2012 |
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May 30, 2012 19:44
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This here has all the issues listed as well
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May 31, 2012 01:08
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This has probably been covered in the thread, but can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Action Comics 5 & 6? This is my first real introduction to the Superman universe beyond reading Secret Origin a million years ago and I seriously have no idea what the hell just happened with all this time travelling crap. :v is there something else I'm supposed to have read?
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Quidnose posted:This has probably been covered in the thread, but can someone explain to me what the hell happened in Action Comics 5 & 6? This is my first real introduction to the Superman universe beyond reading Secret Origin a million years ago and I seriously have no idea what the hell just happened with all this time travelling crap. :v is there something else I'm supposed to have read? As for what happened, I don't have the issues directly in front of me, so this may be a little jumbled or off: The Anti-Superman Army travels through time and steals Kryptonite from the rocket. Superman travels back in time with the Legion to stop them, but he's too late, they've disappeared. Where they've disappered to is a lair located within a lead pellet in Superman's brain. The pellet got there at some point in the future because Nimrod the Hunter (who will be showing up in the next issue) shot it there with a teleportation gun. The Legion senses that they're in the pellet with the villains, so they must've gone back to the future and gone undercover to infiltrate the lair. So they do. But when they're discovered, the little man unleashes the kryptonite, within Supermains brain, which poisons him. However, he uses the rocket like a conduit to sap the Kryptonite energy from his system, restoring it and curing Superman. I think. Space_Butler fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Jun 2, 2012 |
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