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Former Human
Oct 15, 2001

Spacemonkey57 posted:

I agree with about half of the complaints he had about Burger King, it really does suck.

Yeah but the other half is stuff like "Burger King sucks because they name everything BKsomething" which is retarded because McDonald's names everything "McSomething" and who gives a poo poo what the $2 dried out old fast food burger is called?

Hein needs to get a blowjob and calm down.

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chiz
Sep 28, 2002

Viktor posted:

I'm shocked he's making $78k this year from Elf residuals. Thats amazing for 16hrs worth of work in one day.

THAT'S what he gets yearly from residuals for being in one movie for three minutes?

Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Former Human posted:

Yeah but the other half is stuff like "Burger King sucks because they name everything BKsomething" which is retarded because McDonald's names everything "McSomething" and who gives a poo poo what the $2 dried out old fast food burger is called?

Hein needs to get a blowjob and calm down.

He also thinks that their macot being a king is dumb.

kylej
Jul 6, 2004

Grimey Drawer
John Hein is a loving weirdo.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Brocktoon posted:

Why the gently caress would i want to watch a tv show about food hosted by someone who thinks a plain McDonald's hamburger is the best burger available?

He'll do what Guy Feri does. Take a huge bite of something, go "MMMMMMMMMMM" and then spit it out as soon as the camera is off.

Big Bob Pataki
Jan 23, 2009

The Bob that Refreshes

Bonzo posted:

and then spit it out as soon as the camera is off.

thats adorable

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Bonzo posted:

He'll do what Guy Feri does. Take a huge bite of something, go "MMMMMMMMMMM" and then spit it out as soon as the camera is off.

Do you honestly think there's a food Guy Fieri won't eat?

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

Brocktoon posted:

Do you honestly think there's a food Guy Fieri won't eat?

Eggs.

Jarthus
Feb 25, 2008
Oh lord how much more Kinison can I take. It just seems weird how Sam kissed Howard's rear end so much. I was almost sick from all the egos in these replays. It also seems the constant golf clap also ended around 1990.

This is all stuff from way before I ever listened to the show so it's a bit interesting I guess.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Jarthus posted:

This is all stuff from way before I ever listened to the show so it's a bit interesting I guess.

No, no it isn't. It is lousy filler and nothing more. At best it is a nostalga trip for long time die-hard fans, for almost everyone else it is BORING.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

They covered Sam well enough in History of Howard Stern (Rebel Rebel) and it was too bad they didn't go into detail about how he hosed up and lost the role of the Ghost of Christmas Past in "Scrooged" to Buster Poindexter.

Crotch Bat
Dec 6, 2003

Much like with everything else in life, the Euros seem to have more sense on how to do things in a fun atmosphere without sucking the soul out of the event.
We're so desensitized to the shock part of Howard's radio in the 80s that it's just not enjoyable to listen to at all. What he did at the time was groundbreaking stuff but it wasn't timeless, it was basically just shock for the sake of shock. His early 90s-Artie era stuff is the timeless material that will never get old to listen to, at least for me.

Also I could listen to Artie do Bubba impersonations all day long. Listening to the day when Sal fell off the stage when most of the crew went down to Florida to do stuff with Bubba and it's just hilarious.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Kinison's real life preacher stuff was more interesting than his stand-up (which sucks), it demonstrates how a person can learn to speak to a crowd like one of those nutjobs. There are and were many superior comedians to Kinison, Howards obession with him annoys me. Its probably just cos he did the show.

kylej
Jul 6, 2004

Grimey Drawer


Axl Rose and Eric the Midget, everybody.

beep by grandpa
May 5, 2004

Szyznyk posted:

(Rebel Rebel)

One thing the Nick & Artie show has taught me, I guess cause they have real radio people, is how important it is they only play the instrumental bits from their bumpers. They even have Rebel Rebel in there but since there's no guy saying it over and over it never gets annoying.

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

Jarthus posted:

Oh lord how much more Kinison can I take. It just seems weird how Sam kissed Howard's rear end so much. I was almost sick from all the egos in these replays. It also seems the constant golf clap also ended around 1990.

This is all stuff from way before I ever listened to the show so it's a bit interesting I guess.

Szyznyk posted:

They covered Sam well enough in History of Howard Stern (Rebel Rebel) and it was too bad they didn't go into detail about how he hosed up and lost the role of the Ghost of Christmas Past in "Scrooged" to Buster Poindexter.

Let's be fair--and I'm a Sam Kinison fan--but he wouldn't have made it out of the '90s intact. If he had lived, he would have watered down his performance so much that it wouldn't have been him. Kinison's main power was his raw anger, and he was already trending towards bigotry before he was killed. He wouldn't have fit into the '90s schema, especially when the idea of 'shock' suddenly changed when the Internet was bringing unfiltered pornography into households.

I think that's what hosed Howard as well. Being edgy in public was a big deal, but as soon as the public had a communal but anonymous way to express those feelings, the shock jock role became obsolete. How edgy is 'Homocop' when it can take you a matter of seconds to find something infinitely more foul and depraved? The move to Sirius showed how infantile the censorship was, but also how much various comedians needed it as something to play off of. In a strange way, Howard needed that leash so his material would remain edgy. Without it, he's just a complacent comedian who has a bigger vocabulary but less reason to use it. That goes for a lot of shock jocks who run on empty when they don't have a governmental parent to fight against. It takes a special sort of man who can do it in this environment and do it well by exploring his own dark psyche and making the material that comes from that entertaining. Unfortunately for Howard, Artie is doing his own thing right now.

Seaside Loafer posted:

Kinison's real life preacher stuff was more interesting than his stand-up (which sucks), it demonstrates how a person can learn to speak to a crowd like one of those nutjobs. There are and were many superior comedians to Kinison, Howards obession with him annoys me. Its probably just cos he did the show.

I think Kinison represents the time in Howard's career where he was the most happy: a convenient enemy to fight against that would value his humor simply because it stood opposite, and his music was the most popular thing in the world at that point. And that came to an end and Howard--as you can see by his wig--simply can't change or let go.

AltronHGX posted:

One thing the Nick & Artie show has taught me, I guess cause they have real radio people, is how important it is they only play the instrumental bits from their bumpers. They even have Rebel Rebel in there but since there's no guy saying it over and over it never gets annoying.

Not to mention it's childish. If you need to tell people you're a rebel, you're not.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Kinison was the first person to bring Stern into his celebrity status. Because of Sam, Howard started being more of a rock star and not just some lovely morning show DJ.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

kylej posted:



Axl Rose and Eric the Midget, everybody.

Blown highlights yet again.

sedative
Mar 20, 2003

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Beth is so loving weird

chiz
Sep 28, 2002
this is the best troll of ETM Howard has done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jth68jqNSbA

GenoCanSing
Mar 2, 2004

chiz posted:

this is the best troll of ETM Howard has done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jth68jqNSbA

Second best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUhQV-ZhDpg

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

Seaside Loafer posted:

Kinison's real life preacher stuff was more interesting than his stand-up (which sucks), it demonstrates how a person can learn to speak to a crowd like one of those nutjobs. There are and were many superior comedians to Kinison, Howards obession with him annoys me. Its probably just cos he did the show.

He was his "first" celebrity friend, wasn't he?

Also you know some hanger on was like "Wouldn't it be cool if we played Rebel Rebel, to SHOW Howard is a rebel?!?! It's like, higher comedy!"

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

AxeManiac posted:

He was his "first" celebrity friend, wasn't he?

I believe that was the beautiful and talented Billy Squier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR0j7sModCI

chiz
Sep 28, 2002
I thought his first celebrity was David Brenner or Richard Belzer?

Belzer is awesome on the show. There's even a clip of him and Gilbert on the show doing the news with Gilbert making fun of Belzer to his face.

chiz
Sep 28, 2002

GenoCanSing posted:

Second best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUhQV-ZhDpg

hahahaha I love this one. I think he calls in the next day and rants at Howard for doing it.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

@ArtieQuitter posted:

Robin Quivers, Fred Norris, and Gary Dell'Abate...Miss you my old friends @rqui @robertAbooey

Ronnie, hows 'Ricky Man' doing? Think I still owe you lunch. Miss ya buddy. @rmlimodriver69

No mention of Howard...

ChaosMonkey
Jun 28, 2008

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

How edgy is 'Homocop' when it can take you a matter of seconds to find something infinitely more foul and depraved?

OOOGAH!

chiz
Sep 28, 2002

-Atom- posted:

No mention of Howard...

There's a thin line between good radio and humanity and I feel like maybe Artie felt that Howard dropped off on the wrong side.

The only thing is that we don't know the extent of Artie and Howards communications over the last couple of years, so who knows.

rawdog pozfail
Jan 2, 2006

by Ralp

chiz posted:

this is the best troll of ETM Howard has done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jth68jqNSbA

Holy poo poo, thank you. I was immediately brought back to when I heard this live, I'm listening right now and knowing how it ends makes it even better. I miss Artie on Stern so goddamn much, I really am glad I have N&A to get some sort of dose of him.

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades
I think the nicest thing about switching to Sirius was everyone stopped saying "friend of the family" all the time. It was the only legal curse word Howard had, a lot of his shows are really hard to listen too with that mentality and the lovely DJ gimmicks like the clapping and morning circus feeling, combined with the "free air" troglodytes that would call up just to heckle black people, it was some pretty lovely radio for awhile.

chiz
Sep 28, 2002

AxeManiac posted:

I think the nicest thing about switching to Sirius was everyone stopped saying "friend of the family" all the time. It was the only legal curse word Howard had, a lot of his shows are really hard to listen too with that mentality and the lovely DJ gimmicks like the clapping and morning circus feeling, combined with the "free air" troglodytes that would call up just to heckle black people, it was some pretty lovely radio for awhile.

Agreed.

I loved Billy West on the show but when he did the Marge Schott thing and used the n word every two minutes it got less funny.

Iceberg1
Nov 16, 2011

Crotch Bat posted:

We're so desensitized to the shock part of Howard's radio in the 80s that it's just not enjoyable to listen to at all. What he did at the time was groundbreaking stuff but it wasn't timeless, it was basically just shock for the sake of shock. His early 90s-Artie era stuff is the timeless material that will never get old to listen to, at least for me.

Also I could listen to Artie do Bubba impersonations all day long. Listening to the day when Sal fell off the stage when most of the crew went down to Florida to do stuff with Bubba and it's just hilarious.

I agree that Kinison's stand up sucks, but in fairness I feel that comedy stands the test of time the least. There is stand up that I thought was hilarious in the 90's that I feel is unwatchable now. I am too young to have seen Kinison when he was popular so I try not to judge.

null_user01013
Nov 13, 2000

Drink up comrades

Iceberg1 posted:

I agree that Kinison's stand up sucks, but in fairness I feel that comedy stands the test of time the least. There is stand up that I thought was hilarious in the 90's that I feel is unwatchable now. I am too young to have seen Kinison when he was popular so I try not to judge.

You might suffer from "I don't get Bill Hicks/George Carlin" and heard all their bits watered down and poorly told by your friends and other hacks. Sam had a lot of interesting points nobody else was bringing up at the time really, or in that manner. So you see a lot of what he did in comedy and when you go back to the source, sometimes you forget who made who.

Also Kinison's stand up is kind of solidly late 80 early 90s, no climbing out of that one.

DangerDummy!
Jul 7, 2009

Iceberg1 posted:

I agree that Kinison's stand up sucks, but in fairness I feel that comedy stands the test of time the least. There is stand up that I thought was hilarious in the 90's that I feel is unwatchable now. I am too young to have seen Kinison when he was popular so I try not to judge.

He went from being a special, unique voice in stand-up comedy, really honestly edgy, to being a fat weirdo wannabe rock star that told incessant human being and black jokes, when he wasn't too loving drunk to perform, as his fame increased. He used to accuse Dice of stealing his schtick, which you could argue one way or another in my opinion, to doing a bad watered down version of Dice's terrible act.

He was as charismatic a human being as there ever was, and pretty fairly talented on top of that, but his fame and ego and love of mood altering substances collided in the worst possible way. It would have been interesting to see what came of Sam if he'd ever cleaned himself up, but there you go.

I like that story about Sam going out to dinner with Howard, and Sam starts talking to Howard about adopting a healthy diet like him. So he ordered two servings of creamed spinach.

Edit: By the way, clowns, "Raw Nerve" is now in Netflix instant watch. It's pretty good.

DangerDummy! fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Apr 9, 2012

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

DangerDummy! posted:

He was as charismatic a human being as there ever was, and pretty fairly talented on top of that, but his fame and ego and love of mood altering substances collided in the worst possible way. It would have been interesting to see what came of Sam if he'd ever cleaned himself up, but there you go.

It would be interesting, but probably depressing. For some reason I just see Sam with short hair on Fox News talking about 'standing behind the President.'

Jarthus
Feb 25, 2008
When listening to Kinison week the best parts where when Gilbert Gottfried was sitting in. It's funny how he sounds the exact same now. In fact, the funniest shows I ever heard where when Gilbert, Artie and Howard would stretch out the news by just bullshitting around for half an hour straight.

DangerDummy!
Jul 7, 2009

Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:

It would be interesting, but probably depressing. For some reason I just see Sam with short hair on Fox News talking about 'standing behind the President.'

Either that or pulling a Willy Aames on Celebrity Fit Club. I can't help but think that a clearheaded Sam Kinison might've done some great stuff with the benefit of a couple crazy decades behind him, but a Sam/Dice seventh comeback tour reality show seems a hell of a lot more probable.

Former Human
Oct 15, 2001

chiz posted:

Belzer is awesome on the show. There's even a clip of him and Gilbert on the show doing the news with Gilbert making fun of Belzer to his face.

Belzer and Gilbert are great together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScb7ZPFWHY

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

AxeManiac posted:

You might suffer from "I don't get Bill Hicks/George Carlin" and heard all their bits watered down and poorly told by your friends and other hacks. Sam had a lot of interesting points nobody else was bringing up at the time really, or in that manner. So you see a lot of what he did in comedy and when you go back to the source, sometimes you forget who made who.

Also Kinison's stand up is kind of solidly late 80 early 90s, no climbing out of that one.

Kinison was one of those guys that started to redefine stand up in the 80s and along with Dice, was the first "rock star" comedian. Carlin, Steve Martin and Robin Williams were the last ones to be able sell out arenas in the late 70s and very early 80s.

His routine changed quite a bit but that also went along with what he was into at the time. He was heavy into drugs and partying and the performance part took a backseat.

If he had lived, I could see him being more of a writer but he definitely would have toured the reality show circuit. I'm sure at some point he would have found religion again too.

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Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

I'd take a Shiny Buff over a Happy Ending, any day.

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