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Happy Hippo posted:I prefer the new coloring in Killing Joke. The coloring can totally change the mood. For TKJ the neon colors were like seeing the pages through the Joker's eyes. The colors change with the story becoming warm with intensity (Barbara getting shot or Gordon seeing her naked pictures) to cold during the end as the orange hues clash with Batman's black and blue as Joker ends the story. Flex Mentallo was supposed to be a Golden Age homage and the gaudy colors suit it. I saw it in stores today and the book looks solid overall but it's more of a "why bother?" kind of deal when the original looked good and fit the story's mood. Color seems to be the hardest thing for comics to get right. It's either laid on too thick or with no eye for color theory like they're trying to color everything naturally (like a movie still) which doesn't work well with visual storytelling. Out of every bad example I've seen with their off model drawings and traced-from-porn poses, they almost all have universally bad coloring jobs.
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# ? Apr 9, 2012 16:37 |
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servoret posted:Actually Deadshot went to normal people prison, and he broke out of there for his second appearance. Arkham Asylum wasn't even a thing when he first appeared. Awkk awkk Man, I am so glad that they have changed Penguin's character in these last few years...
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# ? Apr 9, 2012 17:32 |
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The first thing I'm going to do when I complete my art degree is recolor Watchmen.
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# ? Apr 9, 2012 17:42 |
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Baron Bifford posted:The first thing I'm going to do when I complete my art degree is recolor Watchmen. Didn't they already do that for the Absolute?
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servoret posted:Actually Deadshot went to normal people prison, and he broke out of there for his second appearance. Arkham Asylum wasn't even a thing when he first appeared.
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Rhyno posted:Didn't they already do that for the Absolute? Yes, but I'm pretty sure it was limited to the backgrounds, so things get individually colored instead of a sea of yellow people in yellow clothes. It looks a lot better.
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# ? Apr 9, 2012 18:24 |
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Baron Bifford posted:The first thing I'm going to do when I complete my art degree is recolor Watchmen. Make sure to replace all those ugly secondary colors with bright primaries!! Also, just totally change doctor Manhattan to fuchsia for no reason.
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 00:09 |
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Rough Lobster posted:Make sure to replace all those ugly secondary colors with bright primaries!! This sounds hilariously awful. I whole heartly endorse it Recolor one and post it here so we can punish our retinas.
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 00:13 |
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That sounds expensive. DC might have to cancel a few books to pay for it. Nobody's reading Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, or Animal Man, right?
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 02:49 |
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al-azad posted:That sounds expensive. DC might have to cancel a few books to pay for it. Nobody's reading Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, or Animal Man, right? They could just Liefeld to write/draw/plot whatever everything. That can save money.
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Madkal posted:They could just Liefeld to write/draw/plot whatever everything. That can save money. Liefeld was convicted of a DWI (Driving While Inking). DC and Warner Bros. do not condone such behavior.
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al-azad posted:Liefeld was convicted of a DWI (Driving While Inking). DC and Warner Bros. do not condone such behavior. His eyes look way too far apart.
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 05:07 |
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Mister Roboto posted:Those could be tracings, which is why the depth perception and character faces are all over the place. I never understand this. Even with Greg Land and stuff. Every time, it's easier for me to just draw a loving face than meticulously search through google image results trying to find the perfect porn girl's face to trace over or whatever. How much time do these tracer guys even spend in a day working? It's insane. It would take like, five minutes, maybe, to come up with a face and get it inked, but they have to be spending hours googling, that's just not efficient cheating/hack work
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# ? Apr 10, 2012 17:25 |
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Under the vegetable posted:I never understand this. Even with Greg Land and stuff. Every time, it's easier for me to just draw a loving face than meticulously search through google image results trying to find the perfect porn girl's face to trace over or whatever. How much time do these tracer guys even spend in a day working? It's insane. It would take like, five minutes, maybe, to come up with a face and get it inked, but they have to be spending hours googling, that's just not efficient cheating/hack work Greg Land has like maybe 10 faces and expressions. I'm sure he has a reference drawer to fit he goes to to fit his needs and in the end, it actually does end up being faster because of this.
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RevKrule posted:Greg Land has like maybe 10 faces and expressions. I'm sure he has a reference drawer to fit he goes to to fit his needs and in the end, it actually does end up being faster because of this. This is funny because it is true. Again, the worst thing about Land's tracing is that he used to actually draw and wasn't bad at it.
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 01:56 |
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People may say to me, dude, you're not even that much into comics, so why do you always come to this thread immediately upon logging into the forums? I ask you if there's another thread where one could find this:Baron Bifford posted:and this: Humboldt squid posted:literally one post away from each other? I mean, it's the single most grotesque Peter Parker I have ever seen in my life and then scroll down one post and there's a woodcut by Gustav frigging Dore. God, I love this thread and it's easy to see why.
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 02:28 |
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I loved David Marquez's work on Ultimate Spider-man #9. The book has been consistently gorgeous from the start and if it's true that he and Pichelli are going to rotate arcs I will be ridiculously happy. Both are so wonderful with expressions.
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# ? Apr 11, 2012 15:57 |
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From Supergirl #65. Art by Chris Cross. This is his Lois Lane, who in one panel looks like a horse. His Supergirl isn't that hot either.
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# ? Apr 17, 2012 22:55 |
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ChrisCross is awful. I almost dropped the book because of him, and I love Supergirl.
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# ? Apr 17, 2012 23:08 |
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Good lord, Supergirl and Starman's teeth
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# ? Apr 17, 2012 23:45 |
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ChrisCross is a really fantastic artist when he isn't phoning it in. His Captain Marvel run is gorgeous.
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 00:03 |
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Some people do have smiles like that. My problem is that the face fluctuate in shape from one panel to the next.
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 00:10 |
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These pages come from Supergirl #11 (2006). Art by Joe Benitez. I think this guy's style is, overall, OK, but his rendition of Supergirl just feels weird to me. He gives her a smaller jaw, giving her face a rounder appearance. The other thing is how shy and submissive she appears before Nightwing. Now, I know Nightwing is badass, but she has reckoned with people even bigger than him. Such as Batman. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Apr 18, 2012 |
# ? Apr 18, 2012 20:22 |
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Good ol rear end and titties pose - exclusive only to comics.
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 20:42 |
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I think it's the gigantic lips that get me--everyone else seems to have pretty normal ones, but then Supergirl has those huge, collagen-injected things.
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 21:03 |
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I see no problems. I'm too distracted by Nightwing being amazing (Also wondering where this sudden rivalry with the Big Blue Butthole came from. I thought Clark and Bruce were buddies)
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 22:33 |
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I think some writers can't get over their rivalry in The Dark Knight Returns.
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# ? Apr 18, 2012 22:51 |
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Baron Bifford posted:These pages come from Supergirl #11 (2006). Art by Joe Benitez. I think this guy's style is, overall, OK, but his rendition of Supergirl just feels weird to me. He gives her a smaller jaw, giving her face a rounder appearance. The other thing is how shy and submissive she appears before Nightwing. Now, I know Nightwing is badass, but she has reckoned with people even bigger than him. Such as Batman. I can see what he was trying for, exaggerating some features to make her look younger. But she comes across like a real life Bratz doll. The inker and colorist didn't do him any favors, either. In fact, the color on those ChrisCross samples are really bad too.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 04:06 |
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I get that anybody with "Hulk" in their name is gonna be pretty buff, just... check out Whilce Portacio's Red She-Hulk in this week's Incredible Hulk #7. God drat.
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TwoPair posted:I get that anybody with "Hulk" in their name is gonna be pretty buff, just... check out Whilce Portacio's Red She-Hulk in this week's Incredible Hulk #7. Her right shoulder is a bicep. That doesn't seem right.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 04:59 |
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TwoPair posted:I get that anybody with "Hulk" in their name is gonna be pretty buff, just... check out Whilce Portacio's Red She-Hulk in this week's Incredible Hulk #7. The new Hulk book is pretty much unreadable because of the atrocious art. edit: VVV That too, it's definitely the weakest of Aaron's current output. Shameless fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Apr 19, 2012 |
# ? Apr 19, 2012 11:01 |
Writing ain't so hot either.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 11:09 |
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TwoPair posted:I get that anybody with "Hulk" in their name is gonna be pretty buff, just... check out Whilce Portacio's Red She-Hulk in this week's Incredible Hulk #7. Disregarding the chicken-drumstick-arm, the muscles are loving atrocious. Not sure who established the idea that more lines means more muscles, but that's not how it works. The balloon boobs on top of it are just the icing on the crap-cake too.
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Kojiro posted:Disregarding the chicken-drumstick-arm, the muscles are loving atrocious. Not sure who established the idea that more lines means more muscles, but that's not how it works. The balloon boobs on top of it are just the icing on the crap-cake too. This is everything I hate about the X-TREME 90s art style that carried over. Excessive crosshatching and thick lines doesn't lend to increased muscle definition. If anything they should be more veiny. And the suits are so impossibly skintight that it's like body paint, not any kind of cloth material. I know, I know these are supposed to be fun not realistic but it doesn't even look good. I've seen artists draw finely sculpted butt cheeks on Iron Man.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 16:49 |
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TwoPair posted:I get that anybody with "Hulk" in their name is gonna be pretty buff, just... check out Whilce Portacio's Red She-Hulk in this week's Incredible Hulk #7. I don't mind muscular women at all in my comics, but in this case, I feel like if you removed the boobs that look like cantaloupes stuffed under her shirt and cut her hair, you'd be left with a red Jean-Claude Van Damme.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 16:59 |
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I don't read a lot of comics, but the art in the Avengers vs X-Men #2 seemed egregiously horrible. The two teams facing off should be a BIG MOMENT, but they all look so strange that I just felt embarrassed for them all.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 23:37 |
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In that last panel Wolverine looks shocked that he has those big pointy things sticking out of his hands.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 23:50 |
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HorseHeadBed posted:I don't read a lot of comics, but the art in the Avengers vs X-Men #2 seemed egregiously horrible. The two teams facing off should be a BIG MOMENT, but they all look so strange that I just felt embarrassed for them all. Spiderman's proportions are off.
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# ? Apr 19, 2012 23:57 |
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HorseHeadBed posted:I don't read a lot of comics, but the art in the Avengers vs X-Men #2 seemed egregiously horrible. The two teams facing off should be a BIG MOMENT, but they all look so strange that I just felt embarrassed for them all. I would have been fine with that last panel if in the digital version it played the theme from the x-men cartoon.
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# ? Apr 20, 2012 00:19 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I would have been fine with that last panel if in the digital version it played the theme from the x-men cartoon. When I was reading this that is all I could think of.
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