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So I finally have enough army to play a decent sized game and I am thinking of running with this list. Protectorate of Mentoth 25 Points Warcaster: pSeveris +6 Jacks Blessing of Vengence 7 Redeemer 6 Vigilant 4 Units Choir min 2 Zealots min + UA 6 Temple Flameguard min + UA 6 So my idea is that the BoV can deploy within choir distance letting Severus gain some early casting for his spells before engaging in melee. The Zealots and Temple will wade up and chuck holy fire on any troops. The Redeemer will stand bit back and lob artillery(with a +1 to attack after taking the Aim, Eye of Menoth and the Choir bonuses against its drat inaccurate penalty) The Vigilant will either stand back with Severus or if my TFG are getting hammered with blast attacks then I'll run him up and they can all hug. I have no anti-stealth capabilities ATM and I know this will make me weak in that area, so I'll just have to hope and pray. Any suggestions?
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Apr 10, 2012 03:58
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Any suggestions? You don't really have a heavy hitter in there anywhere... I'd really try to work a heavy jack into that list somewhere, even if you just drop the Redeemer for a Crusader.
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Apr 10, 2012 05:05
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Gay Polymers posted:WHERE'S MY JUDICATOR?!?!
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Apr 10, 2012 06:07
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Excelsiortothemax posted:So I finally have enough army to play a decent sized game and I am thinking of running with this list. My suggestion: drop one of the 2 min units + UA for a decent heavy hitter like a Reckoner. Zealots and TFG provide the same function in the list and they can't really crack high armor, as GP already said. Also your list is screaming for a vassal, those guys are so awesome it's not even funny. Here's a sample list that should work well, although it loses the BoV in favor of the Reckoner. It also drops the Vigilant for a Repenter, which you probably have if you bought the battlebox. It's another awesome jack when choired up, and it can take advantage of a vassal really well. Grand Scrutator Severius +6 points * Reckoner 8 points * Redeemer 6 points * Repenter 4 points 4 Choir of Menoth 2 points 10 Temple Flameguard 6 points * TFG Officer & Standard 2 points Vassal of Menoth 2 points 3 Wracks 1 point Willeh fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Apr 10, 2012 |
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Apr 10, 2012 12:54
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Willeh posted:My suggestion: drop one of the 2 min units + UA for a decent heavy hitter like a Reckoner. Zealots and TFG provide the same function in the list and they can't really crack high armor, as GP already said. Also your list is screaming for a vassal, those guys are so awesome it's not even funny. See, that is pretty much the list I wanted to run but I dont have a Vassal or a Reckoner yet. I can always ask if I can sub. Thanks guys!
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Apr 10, 2012 15:02
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code:I just want to try out Madrak1's feat in coordination with Scattergunner UA. Basically the interaction revolves around the feat granting overtake and an additional melee attack for destroying an enemy with a melee attack in Madraks control area. Those two abilities should deal with a mass of Bane Thralls quite well! The double Bombers are to deal with high defense infantry, and heavy armor. I think it would struggle facing multiple Khador heavies, but noone around here plays like that. The Fennblades would be defense 16 against ranged, magic, charges, or slams. It would also be funny to use girded to make a bunch of them immune to blasts! The hardest part, I think, about this list would be the lack of whelps! Also, it probably couldn't split to control multiple zones easily. What do you think, troll bros?
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Apr 10, 2012 15:40
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dexefiend posted:[code] I'm not really an expert on Madrak1, but I still think the list has problems cracking high armor, but if it's not a problem for you it's worth a shot. Also only a few fenns would be def 16, namely the ones hanging around madrak or your surefoot target, unfortunately. Full Fenns as well as full scattergunners sounds like a good counter to the usual infantrymachine lists. But fenns already outthreat bane thralls by about a mile (With vengeance and their minifeat, as well as reach + good speed) and they only need 6 to hit, even when not buffed by a fell caller, so banes aren't really an issue. Double bombers sound awesome though, I heard that on MoM too, kind of want to try it for a few games at least.
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Apr 10, 2012 15:58
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Willeh posted:I'm not really an expert on Madrak1, but I still think the list has problems cracking high armor, but if it's not a problem for you it's worth a shot. Oh, I never get the charge on the Bane Thralls, because the Fennblades always have Crippling Grasp. One of the Cryx players around here only plays Deneghra1. It is a real joy to face that every other week or so as a Troll player.  It is shocking what a bomber and some kind dice rolls can do! I took out a Kodiak's movement from a foot a way with a single huge boosted damage roll of 5,5,6 to the 2, and my opponent was like "Are you making GBS threads me?" I think the strength of the bomber comes from its effectiveness against armor and high def infantry.
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Apr 10, 2012 16:17
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Take a thrullg and punch your fennblades in the back with it
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Apr 10, 2012 16:45
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This guy looks friendly
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Apr 10, 2012 17:00
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Man, I hate Khador, but that is a great looking jack.
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Apr 10, 2012 17:01
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crime fighting hog posted:This guy looks friendly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygQvB6OjHOU Welp, I know what I'm buying at GenCon.
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Apr 10, 2012 17:10
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I really hope those small shields on his arms are just for aesthetic purposes.
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Apr 10, 2012 17:15
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I'm actually not sure how I feel about that Khador colossal. I mean, it's neat, but I feel like it doesn't have anything distinguishable about it. It's just... this big fat mass. I guess that's what all Khador jacks are, but I that one is just lacking character to me.
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Apr 10, 2012 17:41
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Looks like at the CCEE there are going to be a few WMH tournaments, including a 15 pt mangeled metal match. This is what I was thinking Army: Protectorate of Menoth 15 points Mangled Metal Warcaster: Reznik +6 Warjack pts Jacks Avatar of Menoth Crusader Dervish I can also drop Avatar for this list: Reckoner Templar Devout The second list would give me range and the Spell Breaker is handy. On the other hand the Avatar is a beast and with Holy Vessel I dont have to worry about focus so I can buy attacks and boost for the Crusader and Dervish. Thoughts?
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Apr 10, 2012 17:48
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Sab669 posted:I'm actually not sure how I feel about that Khador colossal. I mean, it's neat, but I feel like it doesn't have anything distinguishable about it. It's just... this big fat mass. I guess that's what all Khador jacks are, but I that one is just lacking character to me. I agree. Also it's in the typical "can't stand straight up, must pose it weird" Khador style, which I hate.
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Apr 10, 2012 17:59
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Verdugo posted:I agree. Also it's in the typical "can't stand straight up, must pose it weird" Khador style, which I hate. It looks like it is standing up straight to me, I don't think the pose is all that bad. Not Behemoth bad at least.
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Apr 10, 2012 18:09
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 Nice model, but if it keeps going like this, Vlad4 will have no peripheral vision whatsoever.
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Apr 10, 2012 18:10
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Willeh posted:
Where the gently caress is M3. Or the Adjudicator. 
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Apr 10, 2012 18:12
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Willeh posted:
Wonder how many times he had to kill the Lich King to get those shoulders to drop
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Apr 10, 2012 18:14
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Willeh posted:
drat, I like to poke fun about giant shoulderpads in Warmachine... but wow. Are PP modelers just playing a massive joke? Vlad4 will need to come with little support beams on wheels.
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Apr 10, 2012 18:24
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Help! I want to play somewhat jack heavy but I am playing Khador! Does this list in any shape or form work for somewhat casual games? The plan is to have the Zerker, juggernaut and STs run ahead and start smashing face, while the destroyer and bombardiers try to go for a caster kill fuelled by Butchers feat and spells. Faction: Butcher - Heart of Darkness Casters: 1/1 Points: 35/35 Tiers: 2 The Butcher of Khardov (*6pts) * Berserker (6pts) * Destroyer (9pts) * Juggernaut (7pts) Man-o-war Bombardiers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (11pts) Man-o-war Shocktroopers (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
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Apr 10, 2012 18:28
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Where's my Epic Vyros? His sword's bigger.
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Apr 10, 2012 18:35
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Raiche posted:drat, I like to poke fun about giant shoulderpads in Warmachine... but wow. Are PP modelers just playing a massive joke? Perhaps he is simply terrified of being decapitated. They should write some fluff about how the Old Witch prophesied his death. How do spell that horrible word? past tense of make a prophecy. Edit: Prophesy -> Prophesied http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prophesy What a wierd word! --Seriously though, looking at that word is making me a little dizzy-- dexefiend fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 10, 2012 |
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Apr 10, 2012 18:47
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Look at Vlad, now back at me. I'm on a horse.
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Apr 10, 2012 19:00
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What all is actually coming out on the new book? I know that everyone is getting a caster and a colossal, but is that it? Or will everyone get a smattering of UAs, Solos, etc like in Wrath? It would be nice to see that, but I would also not be surprised if they were pitching fewer things in the new book.
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Apr 10, 2012 19:12
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Ashcans posted:What all is actually coming out on the new book? I know that everyone is getting a caster and a colossal, but is that it? Or will everyone get a smattering of UAs, Solos, etc like in Wrath? It would be nice to see that, but I would also not be surprised if they were pitching fewer things in the new book. All we know for certain is Epic3 casters and colossals, but there will certainly be a smattering of other stuff as well.
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Apr 10, 2012 19:14
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It sounds like just a caster and BE for each faction. Unbound rules, and theme lists.
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Apr 10, 2012 19:24
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I am kind of hoping for at least a solo or a UA in there, because I won't be able to use General Ossrum and it'll be ages before I can afford a Colossal. I suppose that I can always enjoy the book for its fluff, at least. 
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Apr 10, 2012 20:37
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PaintVagrant posted:It sounds like just a caster and BE for each faction. Unbound rules, and theme lists. Damnit, Menoth always gets their stuff revealed last.
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Apr 10, 2012 20:37
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Pfhreak posted:Damnit, Menoth always gets their stuff revealed last. That's because we have the coolest poo poo, and everyone would be bummed out if they saw ours first and theirs didn't compare. Also, yell at Kuang. 
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Apr 10, 2012 20:43
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So, I've been playing Warmachine for a few months now. I'm a cryx player and have a good few models at my disposal. The thing is, I just seem to lack the versatility that my opponents have(though I recently acquired a DJ but don't have a card for him so I haven't played him[also been playing in a journeyman so, no characters yet.].) Either way, I just feel like my opponents wind up with more vectors for killing me and I'm stuck with one or two straight forward methods of killing them. Here is what I have: Coven pDeneghra pGaspy pSkarre Max Bane Thralls + UA Satyxis Raiders +UA + Captain Slayer Deathripper x2 Defiler Tartarus Withershadow Sirens x2 Pistol Wraiths x2 -- Perhaps, I'm just a failure at tactics but any help would be greatly appreciated. I just feel like I'm missing something. Things like the Doom Reavers with their damned abomination + reach screens are causing me no end of grief. Part of the issue seems like I can't decide when BLT is worth it.
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Apr 10, 2012 20:46
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DJ Dizzy posted:Help! I want to play somewhat jack heavy but I am playing Khador! Does this list in any shape or form work for somewhat casual games? The plan is to have the Zerker, juggernaut and STs run ahead and start smashing face, while the destroyer and bombardiers try to go for a caster kill fuelled by Butchers feat and spells. No one seems to be replying yet, so I'll throw out a fairly bad opinion. I hate Bombardiers. They are expensive and not good enough at what they do. Also, your list is SPD 4. You will not be moving much, even running will not get you in to smash faces. So I would recommend replacing the Bombardiers with something else. pButcher can use Iron Flesh, so maybe some Kayazy? The extra points can go to manhunters. pButcher loves manhunters.
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Apr 10, 2012 20:55
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Willeh posted:
Lol. Look at the 360 rotation on the PP site. From the side you cannot see his head at all.
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Apr 10, 2012 21:34
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Gay Polymers posted:That's because we have the coolest poo poo, and everyone would be bummed out if they saw ours first and theirs didn't compare. I, for one, am hoping they crank Kreoss3 to 11. In a faction of fairly interesting characters (Evil Pope, Flying Loli, Methodical Firebug, Starscream, etc.) he has been fairly bland in the story. He is, after all, our poster-child caster, and so far he's just... The Exemplar Caster. Even Silent Bob has more going for him, and that's just a travesty. Either way, I am really hoping that these new mounted casters will have more synergy with cavalry in the game than what is currently kicking around. I love Vengers, but for the love of Menoth, they just don't typically warrant fielding for their incredibly high cost compared to other models. If it means a new age of cavalry viability, I will gladly suffer meaner Uhlans or Storm Lances if it means Vengers get put in the field a bit more. This may be the age of steam, but we've got Renaissance Fantasy crashing into the Industrial Age without any Napoleonic airs as a chewy nougat centre? Nuts to that, I want to shout out my charges!
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Apr 10, 2012 21:38
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Dorakyura posted:Flying Loli Also if you think I'm boring you don't know me very well.
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Apr 10, 2012 21:48
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Cirrus_Alreia posted:So, I've been playing Warmachine for a few months now. I'm a cryx player and have a good few models at my disposal. The thing is, I just seem to lack the versatility that my opponents have(though I recently acquired a DJ but don't have a card for him so I haven't played him[also been playing in a journeyman so, no characters yet.].) Well cryx is probably the most versatile faction. With the exception of shooting, but only cygnar, ret, and legion can do that really. You do really have all the key pieces to be very successful there. You don't have bile thralls (hard counter against doom reavers) or mechanithralls though, so you are seriously missing out on the fodder aspect. pGaspy and pSkarre especially benefit from mechanithralls, Denny and the Coven can take them or leave them. If your opponent knows that is your caster list and takes Doom Reavers against you every time then he might just be being a dick, if that's the case then you should stick with playing pSkarre against that person. But you don't have a skarlock to really be playing pSkarre properly. BLT is worth it any time you can hit like 3 dudes. If you get 3 Banes back then he has really done his job. It is difficult to have him hit and make some guys and then survive afterwards, and if you manage two turns of that then you have probably won the game from that alone. What you probably should consider doing is getting someone else in the store who has been playing a long time to play your army against someone and then you can watch how he plays. Especially pDenny is really tricky for new players.
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Apr 10, 2012 22:21
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Mikael Kreoss posted:I'm going to pretend I didn't hear this blatant heresy and let you edit it out before I send Reznik after you. Haha, it's simply the local name for her, not my own nomenclature. I'm in good with ol' Servath, I have nothing to fear! As for what Kreoss has been up to in the fluff, I remain staunchly adamant that he's gotten some of the least character development outside of Amon ad-Raza. Fix it, sir. Fix it.
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Apr 10, 2012 22:25
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Dorakyura posted:Haha, it's simply the local name for her, not my own nomenclature. I'm in good with ol' Servath, I have nothing to fear! Amon ad-Who?
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Apr 10, 2012 22:26
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