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Feces Starship
Nov 11, 2008

in the great green room
goodnight moon

gret posted:

They're right to be suspicious of anyone that voluntarily wants to stay in that shithole of a state. Either they're losers that can't find a job out of state or they're not right the head.

I know you're kidding, but I was literally told by someone at my firm at one point after i'd been offered "well when we first got your resume we assumed you were either 1.) holding us as a backup plan or 2.) were too stupid to get a firm job out in NYC"

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Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

Feces Starship posted:

I know you're kidding, but I was literally told by someone at my firm at one point after i'd been offered "well when we first got your resume we assumed you were either 1.) holding us as a backup plan or 2.) were too stupid to get a firm job out in NYC"

It's not just Michigan. I'm working in the town where I went to high school, lived in my whole life, and where my entire family lives (including extended family). Just ran into a partner who did my screener at a networking thing and she told me the same thing in a more roundabout way.

Feces Starship
Nov 11, 2008

in the great green room
goodnight moon
It's so bizarre. The huge firm meltdown caused by investment bank hemorrhaging should have resulted in totally kickin trickle down of talent but so many small firms seem so distrustful of the "top" law "schools"

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

Feces Starship posted:

It's so bizarre. The huge firm meltdown caused by investment bank hemorrhaging should have resulted in totally kickin trickle down of talent but so many small firms seem so distrustful of the "top" law "schools"

Senior partners think back to when they were looking for their first job and you had to be openly sociopathic to not get multiple offers, even if you went to the John Marshall Clown College and Law School Institute. A partner at a firm I interviewed at unironically asked me if I just wanted to spend a fun summer in Atlanta before going to NY when I graduated or if I was actually interested in staying in Atlanta.

I guess my answer was unpersuasive because I didn't get an offer.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005
You probably didn't sound like you shared his delusionally high view of atlanta

HiddenReplaced
Apr 21, 2007

Yeah...
it's wanking time.

HolySwissCheese posted:

You probably didn't sound like you shared his delusionally high view of atlanta

Atlanta > NYC. HTH.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005
I live in Austin. You're all depressing yankees

Roger_Mudd
Jul 18, 2003

Buglord

HolySwissCheese posted:

You're all

Ya'll are.

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
Lmao Texas is not the south

Nero
Oct 15, 2003
Strangers on the internet I passed the Illinois bar! And to think six months ago I was worried about getting eaten by bears in Missouri.

Now all I want to do is take bar exams, because everybody talks about how time-consuming and hard they are and I get to be like "yeah man gotta study" and then get to go home and drink all day and call of duty run on sentences.

Midwest midlaw for life

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Lmao Texas is not the south
Well gently caress, the north and the west don't want it.

Green Crayons
Apr 2, 2009
Congrats on the bar passage.


Roger_Mudd posted:

Ya'll are.
Y'all.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Lmao Texas is not the south

Texas isn't the south, but Austin isn't really Texas, and you're still all Yankees

In other news, I think I got a public interest job doing admininistrative litigation. Actually a paid internship that might be a full time job when it's over. What are all of the things you know about admin lit?

HolySwissCheese fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Apr 13, 2012

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

HolySwissCheese posted:

Texas isn't the south, but Austin isn't really Texas, and you're still all Yankees
Apparently you are, too.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005

joat mon posted:

Apparently you are, too.

You know it's weird, I say y'all as often as possible out loud, but I almost never type it. I think it's another way law school has ruined the way I think and write.

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Phil Moscowitz posted:

Lmao Texas is not the south

Any state that has a Jefferson Davis statue on its state Capitol grounds qualifies as being in the south.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005

gret posted:

Any state that has a Jefferson Davis statue on its state Capitol grounds qualifies as being in the south.

It's actually looking down at the Capitol from the top of the hill at the center of the university, but ya, that's embarrassing.

Lilosh
Jul 13, 2001
I'm Lilosh with an OSHY

HolySwissCheese posted:

What are all of the things you know about admin lit?

If you're representing the agency, just show up, say "Chevron, bitches," open your briefcase, take a beer out of it, and then sit down and drink it.

fougera
Apr 5, 2009
Yesterday I overheard my friend, a grown man, sobbing to his mom about his job prospects.

Also, Barbri is criminally expensive, is it worth those video lectures or are there better alternatives?

TheBestDeception
Nov 28, 2007

HolySwissCheese posted:

Texas isn't the south, but Austin isn't really Texas, and you're still all Yankees

In other news, I think I got a public interest job doing admininistrative litigation. Actually a paid internship that might be a full time job when it's over. What are all of the things you know about admin lit?

Is this for a state agency? If so, which one?

Ps I type "ya'll". Maybe its a Texas thing, don't know.

HiddenReplaced
Apr 21, 2007

Yeah...
it's wanking time.

fougera posted:

Yesterday I overheard my friend, a grown man, sobbing to his mom about his job prospects.

Also, Barbri is criminally expensive, is it worth those video lectures or are there better alternatives?

Have you tried telling them you're poor and unemployed and can't afford it? I've heard they will lower the price if you tell them that.

HiddenReplaced fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Apr 13, 2012

Agesilaus
Jan 27, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Nero posted:

Strangers on the internet I passed the Illinois bar! And to think six months ago I was worried about getting eaten by bears in Missouri.

Now all I want to do is take bar exams, because everybody talks about how time-consuming and hard they are and I get to be like "yeah man gotta study" and then get to go home and drink all day and call of duty run on sentences.

Midwest midlaw for life

Congratulations, and I hope you enjoy junk mail because the illinois bar association automatically registers every new lawyer as a member and puts them on the advertisement list.

Agesilaus fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Apr 13, 2012

woozle wuzzle
Mar 10, 2012

fougera posted:

Also, Barbri is criminally expensive, is it worth those video lectures or are there better alternatives?

For bar exam prep, I think it's totally worth it. If you go through their crap you pass. They offer bar prep loans (of course) that are easy to qualify for, and what's another couple thousand piled onto the mountain of debt?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Don't you love it when your Writ of Habeas Corpus is so well written and thought out that the Respondent loving concedes the case.
Wooooooo.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

gret posted:

Any state that has a Jefferson Davis statue on its state Capitol grounds qualifies as being in the south.

Sorry, being racist doesn't make you Southern. TX isn't in the South, Y'all be trippin.

Phil Moscowitz posted:

Lmao Texas is not the south

This man speaks the truth.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Omerta posted:

Sorry, being racist doesn't make you Southern. TX isn't in the South, Y'all be trippin.

Having been part of the Confederacy does.

Green Crayons
Apr 2, 2009

evilweasel posted:

Having been part of the Confederacy does.
Texas would have joined any movement to be rid of the shackles of an oppressive federal government. Texas was No True Confederate.


Texas is Texas. It is not associated with any regional area of the United States. poo poo, it's geographically large enough to be its own regional area. And it has an attitude to match.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

evilweasel posted:

Having been part of the Confederacy does.

Negative. Southern is a cultural term. Texas is Texan.

Green Crayons posted:

Texas would have joined any movement to be rid of the shackles of an oppressive federal government. Texas was No True Confederate.

Texas is Texas. It is not associated with any regional area of the United States. poo poo, it's geographically large enough to be its own regional area. And it has an attitude to match.

While we're on the subject, Phil do you bust out the blue Seersucker -- the official uniform of the Louisiana Bar Association -- this time of year? Now that our Lord Jesus has been reborn, his children may celebrate by wearing seersucker, madras, and the finest of pastels.

If you don't love girls in sundresses, I pity you.

Roger_Mudd
Jul 18, 2003

Buglord

Omerta posted:

Sorry, being racist doesn't make you Southern. TX isn't in the South, Y'all be trippin.

Texas combines the fundamentalist morality of the bible belt with the libertarian culture of the west. Thus homosexuals are evil and need to be the subject of legislation but businesses are holy and regulation on business is french socialism.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
My wife wants to take a patent bar study course. Any recommendations?

e: Looking for something cheap, particularly...

WhiskeyJuvenile fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Apr 13, 2012

Phil Moscowitz
Feb 19, 2007

If blood be the price of admiralty,
Lord God, we ha' paid in full!
I actually don't own a seersucker. It's tragic. I do own white and off-white linen suits, and beige poplin. Poplin is my go to hot weather suit.

Agesilaus
Jan 27, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Roger_Mudd posted:

Texas combines the fundamentalist morality of the bible belt with the libertarian culture of the west. Thus homosexuals are evil and need to be the subject of legislation but businesses are holy and regulation on business is french socialism.

Texas sounds like one of the worst places on the planet.

G-Mawwwwwww
Jan 31, 2003

My LPth are Hot Garbage
Biscuit Hider

Agesilaus posted:

Texas sounds like one of the worst places on the planet.

Food's pretty good.

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005

Baruch Obamawitz posted:

My wife wants to take a patent bar study course. Any recommendations?

e: Looking for something cheap, particularly...
In all seriousness, a course is a waste of time and money, especially if she has any experience with patent law. If she takes practice exams and can search the MPEP, she should be fine.

Meatbag Esq.
May 3, 2006

Hmm which internet meme should go here again?

Baruch Obamawitz posted:

My wife wants to take a patent bar study course. Any recommendations?

e: Looking for something cheap, particularly...

I bought the PRG materials used on ebay for $1200 and didn't really use them a whole lot. The books included lots of practice problems which I did use, textual materials which I basically didn't, and a video which I couldn't get through the first segment because I couldn't stand watching a talking head reading the textbook I already had.

The most useful tool when I took the exams in 2008 was the 3 practice exams from like 2001 that were posted on the PTO website. By the time I got to the real exam, there were questions that I had answered incorrectly 3 times on the practice exams, but just checked 'b' because I had memorized the fact pattern by that point. That was worth like 30 free points when I actually went in.

The other good thing about the practice exams is you can see if you are making patterns of mistakes. I saw I was messing up problems that included the word 'not' more regularly than others so I took measures in setting up to prevent those types of mistakes. This ended up being worth 4-6 points between the 2 practice exams I implemented this on.

The other thing to learn is specifically how you can search the MPEP under test conditions. You can only search 1 section of the mpep at a time, and the software is equivalent to adobe acrobat 5.6 or something.

HolySwissCheese
Mar 26, 2005

Lilosh posted:

If you're representing the agency, just show up, say "Chevron, bitches," open your briefcase, take a beer out of it, and then sit down and drink it.

Woo. I think like half of respondents default (especially the paraprofessionals [professionals whose license only requires a two-year degree]), too, so that's something to look forward to.

sigmachiev
Dec 31, 2007

Fighting blood excels
Law Revue failures are up on ATL. They're pretty bad especially Stanford go bears

E: So Phil you gonna hire any of these fine students?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughNPdTrQx0

sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Apr 14, 2012

TheSqueeze
Jun 27, 2005

evilweasel posted:

Having been part of the Confederacy does.

Yeah I was just in Austin for this trial competition and was lulled into a false sense of non-south by all the hipsters, live music and cool bars. But then I'm sitting outside the capitol building, thinking about my pretend closing arguments and realize I'm resting my shoulders against a monument to 'the valiant confederate dead. '

Really awesome tacos and bbq, though.

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

TheSqueeze posted:


Really awesome tacos and bbq, though.

Heheheh, tacos rule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qBXIAUn5Y

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Green Crayons
Apr 2, 2009
Took four semesters, but officially hit the "gently caress it" wall.


gently caress it.

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