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Cestrian posted:I just want to preserve this comment from the main page here for all eternity. It took me a while to get.. I didn't really pick up that she was younger my first read through of those panes. I assume that was her being younger with her father, not with Eglamore. Also, thanks Avatar fairy! Very apt! 
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After reading that ridiculous tech-sperg from a bit back, I noticed a neat detail about this page: It looks like the rocket reaches Mikrosat 5 in about 20 seconds. Assuming that MS5 orbits at around 200 km that'd put the rocket at a velocity of about 10 km/s. That is actually about the same delta-v that real-life rockets need to reach low earth orbit. This might just be a coincidence (especially given my pretty rough approximitations), but I wouldn't put it past Tom to actually take some time to get this right. I just thought it was pretty cool  Fake Edit: Whelp, now I kinda feel out of place with all the GC-avatars here 
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idonotlikepeas posted:OK, I have updated the avatar repository in the way people seemed to want. If I run up against the post limit, I'll condense the names into a contributor list. I'd just put them all into blocks and leave out contributor names, it'd make it easier to skim through.
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Perestroika posted:Fake Edit: Whelp, now I kinda feel out of place with all the GC-avatars here Given this thread you might as well wake up from a nap and suddenly have one too. I'm sort of hoping that as part of the side projects Tom will indulge in will be redrawing the first few chapters in the newer style. Not that I don't like baseball Antimony, but... yeah.
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Apr 12, 2012 11:48
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YF-23 posted:I'm sort of hoping that as part of the side projects Tom will indulge in will be redrawing the first few chapters in the newer style. I'm not. The simplicity of the art goes along with the script. As the art evolved so did the complexity of the script. Thematically and historically, I feel the early chapters should be left as they are.
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SirSamVimes posted:Is that the third time that avatar's been rebought? Would anyone mind if I took this? I adore gunnerkrigg and I think it's about time I got a fancy av  Incidentally I met Tom at Leeds thought bubble festival and he drew me an awesome coyote picture in my gunnerkrigg book and I got an amazing Rey doll
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cranky pomme posted:So I got Gunnerkrigg Court Volumes 1, 2 (through a lot of effort and bribery), and 3 for my youngest sister, who is 12. She is absolutely enamored with them, and thinks that Antimony and Kat are basically the coolest chicks ever--she's even started passing the books around with her friends, who also love them. That's great, I love hearing that kind of thing. Thanks!
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YF-23 posted:I'm sort of hoping that as part of the side projects Tom will indulge in will be redrawing the first few chapters in the newer style. Not that I don't like baseball Antimony, but... yeah. Saoshyant posted:I'm not. The simplicity of the art goes along with the script. As the art evolved so did the complexity of the script. Thematically and historically, I feel the early chapters should be left as they are. If he were to go to the effort at redrawing, I'd say he should try and redraw up through Of New And Old (chapter 7) in the style of chapter 8. That's the point at which I feel that the art really hit its stride and it began to refine and evolve quite naturally with the story. Up until that point it kinda sticks out as being a learning phase and figuring out just what the style would be. But it's really not enough to warrant it unless he really had an urge to, the early stuff is perfectly fine.
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Perestroika posted:After reading that ridiculous tech-sperg from a bit back, I noticed a neat detail about this page: It looks like the rocket reaches Mikrosat 5 in about 20 seconds. What time scale are you basing that on, exactly?
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Apr 12, 2012 20:29
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Zenzirouj posted:What time scale are you basing that on, exactly? Ah, really just a rough approximation on how long summoning and adjusting the telescope appears to take, as all panels seem to take place directly after one another without any delay between them.
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Apr 12, 2012 21:16
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I was playing SWTOR and this droid's head reminded me of something terrible.
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Perestroika posted:Ah, really just a rough approximation on how long summoning and adjusting the telescope appears to take, as all panels seem to take place directly after one another without any delay between them. Leaving aside the amount of time it takes to adjust a telescope, there's also the second panel where Annie gazes at the sky for an indeterminate amount of time. Also, the rocket and the satellite being in the same field of view doesn't indicate that the rocket is near the satellite - it's probably still much closer to them.
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Kojiro posted:I was playing SWTOR and this droid's head reminded me of something terrible.
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...That's it, apparently. The saddest faces.  Edit: Seriously, though, Tom... this page was really fantastic in terms of emotional impact. All the mythology of the comic went away, and Annie is just so obviously a little girl who's feeling hurt, and Donny stops being a super technowizard and is just a guy who knows he can't do enough to help. The tone is spot-on. lesbian baphomet fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Apr 13, 2012 |
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Looks like we won't be seeing Tony for awhile then.
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Nondevor posted:Looks like we won't be seeing Tony for awhile then. We might! The chapter isn't over yet and there's definitely room for a reversal or twist. ... Honestly though I expect, at best, we'll just get more commentary from Donald/Annie about him. Maybe even a quote from Annie that says, "Now that I had heard from him, it would be another two years before I saw him in person..."
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Apr 13, 2012 08:14
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That last panel is so incredibly heartbreaking Gunnerkrigg has done sad before. There have been several pages that I found difficult to read. Annie's face in that last panel beggars every single one. I haven't been moved like that by fiction in a long time. Thank you, Tea-san.
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Apr 13, 2012 08:35
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As noted, Annie's expressions are very well done here. I really like the profile in the 4th panel. I think it's a shot we don't see very often, and it's used very effectively there.
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If emptyposting were not a bad thing, I think sad Gol-Shogeg alone would be enough. Tom, this is such a beautiful page.
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Madrox posted:As noted, Annie's expressions are very well done here. I really like the profile in the 4th panel. I think it's a shot we don't see very often, and it's used very effectively there. Yeah, that panel was really arresting. I had to scroll back up and look at it again when I finished reading the page. There's something so nice about the yearning in it and the familiar-unfamiliarity of a slowly growing up Annie.
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That's it. 
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Cold_Ethyl posted:Would anyone mind if I took this? I adore gunnerkrigg and I think it's about time I got a fancy av I'd prefer it if you got this:  (All avatars must face towards the post!)
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I know telescopes have this black circle in the middle of their lens at their ends but I can't shake the image that Annie and Donald are about to be crushed by a meteor.
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D'aww, what a lovely page. Also the occasional MSPA chat in this thread got me reading homestuck for the first time. It is amazing.
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SirSamVimes posted:Edit: For Ephphatha's sake:  you die now I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Excellent page today, Tom. That's the perfect way to end the chapter, though I assume it's not ending already.
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Ephphatha posted:I'd prefer it if you got this: <<<<< well look who just got a snazzy avatar!  Annies face on the newpage I can feel her dissapointment, the fact that i've learned so much about her dad this chapter has made it worse, I was almost liking him and now I feel so let down... Did anyone else get the vibe that the reason he didn't ask Brinnie out is because he really fancied Surma? Also, I would buy the poo poo out of Gunnerkrigg themed jewellery Tom, Annie's necklace would be snapped up.
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Ugh, I gotta stop reading the Deegan hate thread before checking out GC. Between today's DD being so terrible and today's Gunnerkrigg Court being so great I think I got whip lash!  vvv: Especially if that art style was terrible to begin with and said artist has been using that terrible art style for ~8 years
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It takes art and writing chops to make a page like this not feel like an anti-climax. Good thing we have Tom doing both.Saoshyant posted:I'm not. The simplicity of the art goes along with the script. As the art evolved so did the complexity of the script. Thematically and historically, I feel the early chapters should be left as they are. The evolution of the art is also a nice counterpoint to any artist who says they don't need to improve.
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Ahh, only 7 words, but this page is really sad. Great work as usual, just overall so sad. Though could someone help me out on my literary terms. The rocket/satellite are being used as an allusion correct? Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 13, 2012 |
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Matlock Birthmark posted:Ahh, only 7 words, but this page is really sad. Great work as usual, just overall so sad. Assuming I'm understanding you correctly, the satellite could be seen as a metaphor for her father's distance from Annie- both physical and possibly emotional. An allusion is typically a a reference to something. I apologize if I misunderstood what you were thinking.
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Saoshyant posted:I'm not. The simplicity of the art goes along with the script. As the art evolved so did the complexity of the script. Thematically and historically, I feel the early chapters should be left as they are. I agree with this, as someone who was stuck in the archives for a while (for reasons of being busy, not that I didn't want to be reading) and just recently caught up. Upon reflection I realized that the growth of the art matches really nicely with the growth of the story -- it really gives the impression that Antimony, et al mature and become more nuanced personalities as the story begins to engage more seriously with the world. Consider the contrast between the current chapter (Antimony the young woman feeling some pretty serious Emotions about her dad) and the first (Antimony the unusual and intelligent kid gaining a second shadow and deciding the best course of action is to build a robot).
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The Walker posted:Assuming I'm understanding you correctly, the satellite could be seen as a metaphor for her father's distance from Annie- both physical and possibly emotional. An allusion is typically a a reference to something. I apologize if I misunderstood what you were thinking. Hmm, yes. I suppose you are right, this isn't a reference to one particular thing. Thanks. I was referring to the rocket being a metaphor for her father, and the satellite to a lesser extent being a metaphor for her mother. The "they flew away" line really invokes her situation with her parents for me. Matlock Birthmark fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Apr 13, 2012 |
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:I agree with this, as someone who was stuck in the archives for a while (for reasons of being busy, not that I didn't want to be reading) and just recently caught up. Upon reflection I realized that the growth of the art matches really nicely with the growth of the story -- it really gives the impression that Antimony, et al mature and become more nuanced personalities as the story begins to engage more seriously with the world. Consider the contrast between the current chapter (Antimony the young woman feeling some pretty serious Emotions about her dad) and the first (Antimony the unusual and intelligent kid gaining a second shadow and deciding the best course of action is to build a robot). Yeah you kinda sound like Patrick Bateman here. The art changed because it's impossible to draw 2-3 pages a week with this kind of detail for 5+ years and not have your art change.
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fosborb posted:Yeah you kinda sound like Patrick Bateman here. Well, that too, OBviously :P Tom got better at art and storytelling as the story progressed, but it's a cool reflection of the development of the characters from children into young adults that the art and storytelling DID keep pace with their growth so elegantly. So, whether on purpose or happy accident, it's still Pretty Cool™.
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fosborb posted:Yeah you kinda sound like Patrick Bateman here. Patrick Bateman would wax philosophic about a much more mediocre comic. But yeah, as thespaceinvader said, there's a difference between intention and effect. Regardless of the practical reasons for an evolution in art style, what's happened with GKC is very fortuitous in terms of the development of the story, the art, and the characters all feeding into each other.
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I really have no idea what's going to happen after this. Seems like there's something left to be said about Anthony. Mostly what we've learned is just that he makes Annie seem like a social butterfly in contrast. Also. SirSamVimes posted:
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SirSamVimes posted:Edit: For Ephphatha's sake: Has anyone claimed this yet? Also, any ideas for a good quote, anyone? I was thinking "That's it?" but it's so sad, I don't know...
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