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Got out of Navy Boot Camp, showed up here on Feb 11. Actually loving it so far. If you want some reasonably well-adjusted people, make Navy friends. Anyone else doing Persian-Farsi? Trying to get a bit of a head start before I class up on March 1st.
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Feb 18, 2012 20:28
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You're lucky class starts on the 1st. I'm waiting till the 8th, although I "phased up" earlier than my peers for having the balls to go and ask while 3 MTL's grilled me about the rules of smoking(which I don't do). Question? Why in the hell does the Navy have to wear reflective belts over their civilian clothes?
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Feb 25, 2012 18:04
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Monterey Fog kills man.
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Feb 25, 2012 18:05
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Black Balloon posted:Got out of Navy Boot Camp, showed up here on Feb 11. Actually loving it so far. If you want some reasonably well-adjusted people, make Navy friends. A friend of mine is being cross rated from ET to CTI and will be doing Persian-Farsi in May. She was wondering if you'd be willing to exchange info in case she has any questions about the curriculum or student life. You can PM me about it if you'd like.
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Feb 25, 2012 21:17
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Army specialist/sham shield in phase 4. You've likely seen us marching around, all 90 of us. We phase up on Tuesday. I start Russian on Thursday. Bellum fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Mar 18, 2012 |
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Mar 18, 2012 18:23
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Bellum posted:Army specialist/sham shield in phase 4. You've likely seen us marching around, all 90 of us. We phase up on Tuesday. I start Russian on Thursday. C or F Co? (I was in F in '92)
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Mar 18, 2012 19:27
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:C or F Co? (I was in F in '92) Russian stays in Bravo now, with the rest of the European languages.
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Mar 18, 2012 19:39
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Bellum posted:Russian stays in Bravo now, with the rest of the European languages. Haha, yeah, back in the day there were enough RU students for two companies. How times change...now we're trying to figure out what to do with all these RU SFCs that won't go away.
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Mar 18, 2012 19:51
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In twenty years they will be saying the same thing about all the MSA linguist.
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Mar 18, 2012 20:18
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faddypaddy posted:In twenty years they will be saying the same thing about all the MSA linguist. 
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Mar 18, 2012 20:38
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Seriously why the gently caress do you all march in groups of at least 50 to the DFAC? I hear you coming and run as fast as I can, even in blues. Hopefully I make it in time to eat. God drat army.
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Mar 19, 2012 00:35
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AchmedTheSnake posted:Seriously why the gently caress do you all march in groups of at least 50 to the DFAC? I hear you coming and run as fast as I can, even in blues. Hopefully I make it in time to eat. God drat army.
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Mar 19, 2012 01:52
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I always laughed when I saw anyone marching around up there. I remember I did a double take the first time I drove by a group of like 6 airmen all marching off to class. What the gently caress is the point?
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Mar 19, 2012 02:06
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Bellum posted:Army specialist/sham shield in phase 4. You've likely seen us marching around, all 90 of us. We phase up on Tuesday. I start Russian on Thursday. Phase 4 Hooah? But yeah I'm ready to phase up as well. I just feel bad for the people who are getting restarted. poo poo sucks.
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Mar 19, 2012 03:16
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CurbStomp posted:Phase 4 Hooah? Back in my day, there were only about eight of us at a time on phase four. I thought we were reducing our total strength, not increasing it 
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Mar 19, 2012 05:08
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They started making people march a few weeks before I left. Didn't give a gently caress so never actually did any marching.
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Mar 20, 2012 18:41
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the condor lands at midnight; the condor lands at MIDNIGHT
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Mar 24, 2012 02:57
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DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:the condor lands at midnight; the condor lands at MIDNIGHT TIL THEY ALL COME HOME
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Mar 24, 2012 03:15
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I also can't grow a mustache worth a poo poo (but I'm still trying anyway because I finally can).
Gooble Gobble fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Feb 9, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2012 05:48
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Gordian posted:Phase 4 blows. Not only do I turn 21 during phase 4 I also can't grow a mustache worth a poo poo (but I'm still trying anyway because I finally can). Also, korean. I turned 21 as a Korean student. All I remember is seven of us in a 1978 Chevette hauling rear end up the hill to the Presidio at 2 am because the driver was too wasted to deal with the stick shift at the stop signs. This was in '86 when DLI was an open post and driving drunk was no big deal.
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Apr 6, 2012 06:02
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I graduated in Dec of 2010. I stopped back in to see me good friend, who is currently cadre in Delta Co, and he told me how lovely the place has become. The horror stories I hear about it...seriously, DLI used to be an awesome place.
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Apr 8, 2012 05:19
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Godmachine posted:I graduated in Dec of 2010. I stopped back in to see me good friend, who is currently cadre in Delta Co, and he told me how lovely the place has become. The horror stories I hear about it...seriously, DLI used to be an awesome place. How'd it get lovely, need to know deets. TIA
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Apr 9, 2012 03:47
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Godmachine posted:I graduated in Dec of 2010. I stopped back in to see me good friend, who is currently cadre in Delta Co, and he told me how lovely the place has become. The horror stories I hear about it...seriously, DLI used to be an awesome place. Who hosed it up? Pick or Bellotte?
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Apr 9, 2012 04:08
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Duffleblog knows all: DLI Couple Will Last Forever, Reports Boyfriend
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Apr 13, 2012 02:29
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Godmachine posted:I graduated in Dec of 2010. I stopped back in to see me good friend, who is currently cadre in Delta Co, and he told me how lovely the place has become. The horror stories I hear about it...seriously, DLI used to be an awesome place. What happened? I have a buddy who is heading back there in October.
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Apr 14, 2012 02:59
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I don't know if he has anything the different but the biggest changes going on right now for Army include afternoon PT, and mandatory 4 night a week study hall for any student with below a 3.0.
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Apr 14, 2012 04:06
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faddypaddy posted:mandatory 4 night a week study hall for any student with below a 3.0. There's huge pressure on me right now to stop granting grad waivers for any army student that scores less than a 2/2/1+ on their grad DLPT, so you fuckers better study hard if you don't want to end up with an MOS that you might not like.
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Apr 14, 2012 04:15
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quote:I don't know if he has anything the different but the biggest changes going on right now for Army include afternoon PT, and mandatory 4 night a week study hall for any student with below a 3.0. I did the first voluntarily during Pashto basic for over a year and a half, and it helped me graduate with a 3.5 and score 2/2/2, so no complaints there. The afternoon PT thing is great and I wish my company had done it when I was there. quote:There's huge pressure on me right now to stop granting grad waivers for any army student that scores less than a 2/2/1+ on their grad DLPT, so you fuckers better study hard if you don't want to end up with an MOS that you might not like. Is this 35P only or does it apply to 35M/35Ls as well?
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Apr 14, 2012 05:32
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I was here today doing.. something.. and I must say most of the DLI students look like malnourished hajis seriously. None of them look like they've ever picked up anything heavier than an XBox controller. Seriously confused as to how these children are making it through boot. Anyway some poor PFC in his chucks complete with wooly pully mumbled a greeting at me that was like "Hmrahauguhg masterfirstsirgeant" which was especially hilarious because I am not an officer and I was in civvies. I just told him to stop acting so nervous and struck up a conversation  I also saw several Army staff NCOs that looked like they were loving twelve. Perhaps the most abominable thing I witnessed was at the loving PX; some blue SUV with pink lettering on the back that appeared to be advertising a "fuckerware" party. I will return this week to obtain field imagery for further analysis.
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Apr 14, 2012 05:47
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SirEverlast posted:Is this 35P only or does it apply to 35M/35Ls as well? Just 35P, as they're the only language-dependent MOS going through the school. The others can totally gently caress off the entire time and still progress into their language-enabled MOS, since there's no established proficiency standard.
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Apr 14, 2012 05:52
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My problem with mandatory study hall is that it takes the commands ability to tell if they should LOA or LOE somebody out of the course. For example if a guy is failing but voluntarily goes to study hall and stays after class etc. then it is obviously a clear LOA. However, a guy who just fucks around and never goes to study but is failing is a clear LOE. Now they have taken away their ability to make that distinction which in my opinion will lead to a lot of people who should be LOE getting by with a far more lenient drop status.
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Apr 14, 2012 06:18
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GreenMeat, what kind of MOS would we get if we fail?
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Apr 14, 2012 06:24
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faddypaddy posted:My problem with mandatory study hall is that it takes the commands ability to tell if they should LOA or LOE somebody out of the course. For example if a guy is failing but voluntarily goes to study hall and stays after class etc. then it is obviously a clear LOA. However, a guy who just fucks around and never goes to study but is failing is a clear LOE. Now they have taken away their ability to make that distinction which in my opinion will lead to a lot of people who should be LOE getting by with a far more lenient drop status. I'll address that.
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Apr 14, 2012 06:45
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Bellum posted:GreenMeat, what kind of MOS would we get if we fail? Right now 35N is the priority, but as AIT class seats fill up, it becomes needs of the army. Since a TS clearance has been initiated, MOSs that require such are looked at first, but if there's not an AIT class seat open within a certain amount of time, anything goes. DLI can only sustain so many hold overs. Don't flunk out of language school.
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Apr 14, 2012 06:53
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TheUnhorse posted:How'd it get lovely, need to know deets. TIA I can only speak for the Army though the Air Force always had it lovely from what I could tell. As I said, I graduated in Dec 2010. Things started to get retarded about halfway through my 16 months of training. Midway through, they switch us from afternoon PT to morning PT and then decreed that even PT exemptions have to be at the 0445 formation for accountability but would then be able to leave. Of course, those who drive in from Ord or elsewhere now can't shower and get ready at home so the gym is packed. Obviously, changing PT mid-course was devastating; there was a huge spike in soldiers falling asleep in class and 4 out of 5 soldiers failed the unit test that came a week after the change. Of course, we adapted eventually. I was a squad leader and was very blunt with my squaddies about how hosed this was so any day we had "squad PT" in the morning, I let them leave to sleep/study/shower whatever. And then I graduated. I returned to DLI recently to meet up with a good friend who became cadre in Delta as well as a few friends from my unit who were in the school. Here are the biggest changes I was told about : -Mandatory study hall for 3.0 and below. Seriously? The grading standards at DLI are already criticized by other language schools. Why make it worse? And it's from 1800-2000 which is just retarded. I hear it's rather full so those who want to go voluntarily don't have the option to. -One company (I forget which) had a few folks showing up late for formation. Naturally, the best course of action was have the whole company, not just the 4 or 5 people who showed up late, have a morning PT formation, a pre-class formation, a lunch formation, and a post-class formation. There is no excuse for this for this poor choice of administrative punishment. None. Stress levels at DLI are some of the highest in the military for TRADOC. Whoever made this decision is not fit to wear their rank. -Massive amounts of drug use. Actually, this just seems to be a DLI thing. I think it's the due in part because of the stress the students are under to perform to DLI's arbitrary standards. The military side of the school seems to be blind that most students are doing 8+ hours of class and a few hours of homework studying after that. As an NCO myself, I understand we need military bearing and should maintain that standard at DLI, but it's almost excessive at the school. I have more I could rant about but I'll stop there. Thinking about DLI and the mismanagement I saw there (both military and administration) makes me thankful I'm not there anymore. I was very clear with my unit that I would not return under any circumstances to learn another language or do advanced classes.
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faddypaddy posted:My problem with mandatory study hall is that it takes the commands ability to tell if they should LOA or LOE somebody out of the course. For example if a guy is failing but voluntarily goes to study hall and stays after class etc. then it is obviously a clear LOA. However, a guy who just fucks around and never goes to study but is failing is a clear LOE. Now they have taken away their ability to make that distinction which in my opinion will lead to a lot of people who should be LOE getting by with a far more lenient drop status. You neglect to mention that teaching teams will always push for the LOE because it doesn't count against their attrition rates and thus their bonuses.
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Apr 14, 2012 22:55
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Godmachine posted:
I was in the company that had mandatory post class formations, but I never heard about 4 a day. We had a squad leader who was able to pull influence to get our entire class taken off mandatory study hall. Our class also graduated with the highest DLPT scores for our language ever. Drug use was a massive problem and we even had a soldier trying to buy prescriptions at the TMC.
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Apr 14, 2012 23:04
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Other than the mandatory study hall nothing at DLI really surprises me. The company who has all the crazy formations is pretty standard in the Army. You will see the Army is full of over the top knee jerk reactions like that. As far as a drug problem that is everywhere too not just DLI it existed when I was in both the 82nd and 101st and there were people constantly getting busted. As far as the PT thing afternoon PT has been mandated by the Battalion commander now especially for those who are on mandatory study hall. All in all DLI is not the worst run place I have ever seen in the Army nor does it undertake in the most annoying time wasting behaviors. The grading scales are a little retarded from time to time (DLI is the only place I have ever seen consider 87% a B-.) However overall I think overall a 3.0 is very achievable especially when you consider all of the give me grades that count towards you overall GPA.
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Apr 14, 2012 23:57
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faddypaddy posted:The grading scales are a little retarded from time to time (DLI is the only place I have ever seen consider 87% a B-.) My high school actually used this standard back in the day, though I think they have since changed it.
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ManMythLegend posted:My high school actually used this standard back in the day, though I think they have since changed it. There are also plenty of real colleges where teachers in harder majors will have grades like that.
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